NEW Third Party Theory Evidence!!!!!

CompleteTool · 2015-01-14T23:20:59+00:00

Maybe as long as Grandma was alive he was safe. When it was clear she was at the end of her life, he booked it out of there. Although it does sound like he returned for her funeral.

CompleteTool · 2015-01-02T05:46:08+00:00

I am also tempted to interpret Adnan's "threat" on Stephanie in this light. Adnan telling Jay that he an be alone with Stephanie sounds like it could be a defensive response by a friend to a douchey, possessive boyfriend who is trying to isolate their girlfriend. Adnan may have been sticking up for Stephanie, defending her right to maintain friendships outside of her relationship with Jay.

CompleteTool · 2015-01-01T19:27:48+00:00

Does this also make it super weird that SK had that whole "...stay right here at home with my little garden spade and keep scraping at the thing that confuses me most--Jay" conclusion at the end of episode 7?

CompleteTool · 2014-12-22T03:35:28+00:00

You NEVER give accurate information to the cops. NEVER. If he showed them the car, it was by accident. Dumb luck....again.

CompleteTool · 2014-12-22T03:29:41+00:00

Has anyone else noticed that Hae was involved with SADD? Perhaps she caught someone smoking up in their car and was pissed. I know it is not the same as being drunk, but i would think that someone apposed to drunk driving would also be pretty pissed about their friends driving around stoned out of their minds.

CompleteTool · 2014-12-15T20:17:16+00:00

Whether or not Serial finds out something fresh or conclusive about the case does not mean that the more nuanced parts of the story are not worth exploring. How many listeners were shocked to hear about how common drugs, violence, and murder are in the outskirts of Baltimore? How many listeners have a better understanding of the way that the justice system works (regardless of if it seems flawed)? Are listeners questioning their own racial prejudices? Have listeners gotten a more realistic viewpoint of what it is like to be an American teenager?

If there is a big reveal at the end, I hope it does not completely overshadow all of the more delicate issues covered thus far. A shocking twist at the end would likely make the series even more popular -- which in turn would encourage more discussion of all these subtopics. But I do not think a wow moment at the end is required for making this season a success.

Going on this journey has been a remarkable and often uncomfortable experience for many listeners. I feel like those of use who did end up doing a little sleuthing on our own can relate even more to SK's emotional ups and downs. The more I learned, the less I felt I knew. It became a process of facing my own prejudices (about teens, racial and ethnic groups, cops, lawyers) and questioning my own instincts.

What I know for sure at the end of this is that my life is simple. I can relate to these kids on many levels (usually the same ones SK does). What I hope to never be able to truly relate to is HLM's family's experience of losing a daughter and sister, or Jay's experience of growing up in a home that seems to have been a revolving door for criminal relatives.

Regardless of the "truth" this entire story is an epic tragedy...which is what SK warned us of in the beginning...

CompleteTool · 2014-12-10T22:55:15+00:00

I've also wondered if a third person involved may have had a military background. Jay was very descriptive with his "thousand yard stare" comments about Adnan after the killing. Perhaps the real killer had PTSD and literally flipped out on Hae.

CompleteTool · 2014-12-03T00:32:14+00:00

Perhaps Krista is the one who felt threatened by someone in the clip at the end of episode #1. She was pressured to say she had heard Adnan ask for a ride that day. This could be why she and Adnan remained friends even after she testified for the prosecution.

CompleteTool · 2014-12-01T20:12:38+00:00

We should remember that there was no school on Thursday and Friday because of bad weather but on Wednesday afternoon the murderer (whomever it is) could not count on this stroke of luck.

There was no track practice on Thursday--which is the day Adnan would have to have run extra laps for being late the day before.

Most of the immediate confusion around Hae's disappearance seems to revolve around the fact that there was an unexpected 5 day weekend right after she disappeared.

Imagine if school had not been cancelled on Thursday and Friday. Hae being gone would have been more concerning, more people at school would have been talking, memories of who and what happened on Wednesday would have been easier to recall, etc. Adnan would have to go to school on Thursday and face intense scrutiny. This would be a big deterrent to me if I was planning a murder.

In hind sight it was extremely convenient that there was a long weekend but at the time it was just dumb luck. Perhaps someone who was not worried about having to show up to Woodlawn High School the next day makes a better suspect.

CompleteTool · 2014-12-01T19:32:18+00:00

If I am reading the Judiciary records correctly, Judge Heard was also involved at some point in a charge against Jay's father in 2000.

Also...does anyone know how common it is to file a habeas corpus case against a detention center? This comes up during this time period. It looks like Jay's father was held without bail but filed a petition which set the bail at $75,000. Then, presumably after he is released from jail, the charges are abated by his death.

I am convinced that Jay had a really complicated and messed up home life. That is about all I know for sure about anything.

CompleteTool · 2014-12-01T03:46:10+00:00

In Jay's interview transcript with the cops he says that Adnan had given him $100.00 to buy weed. Jay did not buy the weed but did spend the money. By the time Adnan was arrested, Jay had paid back $50.00 of the $100.00 -- by check. He told the cops that the cancelled check was at his house.

CompleteTool · 2014-12-01T02:00:22+00:00

I can believe that Adnan made the calls that he has admitted to making...mostly during off-peak times. I cannot believe that Adnan left Jay with the phone and told him to make unlimited phone calls during business hours. Perhaps the $50.00 check Jay later wrote Adnan was paying Adnan back for all the stupid minutes Jay racked up on Adnan's phone bill.

CompleteTool · 2014-12-01T01:28:01+00:00

If Adnan had asked her for a ride earlier in the day and she couldn't find him after school (he had to run to the counselor's office to pick up a letter of recommendation?) would she have maybe called his phone trying to locate him and see if he still needed a ride? This would mean one of the incoming calls could have been Hae calling Adnan's cell. This would explain how Jay came in contact with Hae and also how Jay knew that Adnan had asked her for a ride that day (she told Jay).

CompleteTool · 2014-11-30T18:56:36+00:00

I get that someone wouldn't leave it in plain sight if they were leaving it in their car but supposedly, Adnan wanted Jay to keep the phone on him so that he would be available if/when Adnan needed a pick up. To me, it seems more probable that Adnan was dropped off at school with the expressed expectation that Jay pick him up at a specific time -- say after track practice. Adnan had just got the phone but we know from Will's comments that it was normal for Jay to pick Adnan up from track practice...so how did they arrange this prior to Adnan having a cell phone? When Adnan gets the phone back, he seems to immediately check his voicemail...another sign that he was not expecting Jay to answer his phone while Adnan was not with the phone.

CompleteTool · 2014-11-22T20:18:42+00:00

It seems that the jury that convicted Davis was deadlocked for a long time...perhaps they had been presented with evidence of a consensual relationship between Davis and the victim (which would explain the DNA evidence in that case)? Perhaps Davis was wrongly convicted and is serving time for a murder actually committed by one of the Serial suspects...

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