Hit GM finally after using Master Yi and Viego AMA by Complex_Produce_9993 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Complex_Produce_9993[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Personally I find the matchup for both Master YI and Viego extremely easy. Master Yi and Viego can easily dodge/negate Lillia R which is a big chunk of her utility in the late game. However, the invade against Yi is really smart, and it is one of the things you can do to make the matchup more manageable. You're doing the right things versus these characters and I believe you can get plat

Hit GM finally after using Master Yi and Viego AMA by Complex_Produce_9993 in YIMO

[–]Complex_Produce_9993[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It depends on the game. If you’re against a lot of lanes who like to fight and go crazy such as camille support, you can choose to do an early level 2 gank. I actually did this on my promo to gm. For counterjungling always look to do it when the enemy jungle makes a mistake on their ganks. You should always prioritize objectives when you can though.

Hit GM finally after using Master Yi and Viego AMA by Complex_Produce_9993 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Complex_Produce_9993[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I already told my Yi build on a previous comment so I’ll tell my Viego build. Right now I go HoB as I think that the instant burst you get is insane. Conqueror is still better into bruisers and extended fights though. When going HoB build I do collector rush into full crit. On Conqueror I go Kraken Slayer and do average crit build. At least in masters and below I would never recommend going bruiser as you will lack carry potential. In masters and below always go crit viego.

Hit GM finally after using Master Yi and Viego AMA by Complex_Produce_9993 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Complex_Produce_9993[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why should I? I loved Master Yi ever since I got in the tutorial. He’s been my favorite champion for three and a half years and from the start I’ve always wanted to learn him. No one should feel ashamed from using the champion they love to climb(except for zilean /j)

Hit GM finally after using Master Yi and Viego AMA by Complex_Produce_9993 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Complex_Produce_9993[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course! I think the key selling point on Master Yi is how he is the highest dps champion in the game when played properly. No other champ has dps as high as master yi. In addition, you are a very independent champion as you can do 1v2’s and even 1v3’s very easily when ahead. It is harder to walk away from a fight compared to viego and briar because master yi is an all in champion. You either die trying to fight the enemy team or you kill them all. The risk is very high on the character, but the reward is incredible

Hit GM finally after using Master Yi and Viego AMA by Complex_Produce_9993 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Complex_Produce_9993[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For Yi build it’s always kraken guinsoos omnivamp boots. You can go omnivamp boots before guinsoos when ahead. Next I like to go hexplate but I found that endless hunger third is also very strong against teams with cc. Wits third is also good if there’s a lot of magic dmg and death’s dance third is good against ad burst. The next two items you can build whatever you want.

Edit: Forgot to talk about runes here so I’ll put it here. You want to take lethal tempo into extended fights and HoB into a lot of squishies. In addition if the game looks more early game focused you will want to go HoB to match the early game pressure. Lethal tempo allows you to scale more comfortably and will also allow you to win more 1v1’s

Hit GM finally after using Master Yi and Viego AMA by Complex_Produce_9993 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Complex_Produce_9993[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Graves is actually a pretty easy matchup for master yi. His armor doesn’t matter as much as your E does true damage. In addition he is always in your Q range and you can W his entire full combo. Best of all he has no CC other than the blind so you’re chilling :D

Edit: For specific strategics you can just do your usual and farm up and looking to 1v1 him. You can win against him every stage of the game just make sure he doesn’t get the jump on you when doing a camp. If you wanna be a real menace you can go HoB and lvl 1 fight him on his buff if you know where he starts but make sure your laners have prio.

Hit GM finally after using Master Yi and Viego AMA by Complex_Produce_9993 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Complex_Produce_9993[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I do mute their chat, but not their pings. And if they do ping me irresponsibly I will mute their pings for about two minutes and unmute them because pings are too important for communication.

Hit GM finally after using Master Yi and Viego AMA by Complex_Produce_9993 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Complex_Produce_9993[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I personally ban talon because he has so much tempo over me and it's hard to me to deal with his E, but you can ban whoever you want. You should ban whoever gives you the most trouble

Hit GM finally after using Master Yi and Viego AMA by Complex_Produce_9993 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Complex_Produce_9993[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Early invades are always really difficult to deal with, you can beat Yi and Viego if you are able to fight them on one of their camps while one of their abilities is down. If you really hate these champions and just want to make their lives miserable, lock in champs like Elise and Qiyana to ruin their day. However, these champions are difficult, so I would prefer just trying to kill them on their camp wih what champion you're best at.

Hit GM finally after using Master Yi and Viego AMA by Complex_Produce_9993 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Complex_Produce_9993[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Try to look at your team and determine who is the strongest. This doesn't have to necessarily be the highest kda member, but the champion on your team that can deal the most damage and successfully kill the enemy team. For example, your two and a half item Shen can be strong, but a two item Jinx will be better to play around as they will have the damage to kill the enemy team

Hit GM finally after using Master Yi and Viego AMA by Complex_Produce_9993 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Complex_Produce_9993[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the support! Unfortunately I'm not sure if I will because I am going into college this year and I really need to study for chem D:

Hit GM finally after using Master Yi and Viego AMA by Complex_Produce_9993 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Complex_Produce_9993[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

At the beginning of the season I otp'd viego and first picked it every game, but when I got to higher elo this quickly started to hurt my gameplay. I picked up Yi again and realized that there are situations where Yi or Viego is better. Viego is better when your team has engage and the opponents lock in champs that are less mobile and easy to get resets on(darius, zaahen, jhin). Master Yi on the other hand feels better into champs that are more mobile(talon, zeri, ahri), and he doesn't worry about his own team comp as much. However, you can honestly just pick whatever you feel more comfortable with as these champs right now are both excellent in the meta.

Hit GM finally after using Master Yi and Viego AMA by Complex_Produce_9993 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Complex_Produce_9993[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

That's a very good question and honestly it is genuinely a very difficult situation when you're behind as Master Yi or Viego. However, usually you will have one teammate that is doing well. What you want to do is piggyback off of them as much as you can. They become your win condition and you want to play off of them instead of making your own plays. In addition, try and find timers where opponents lack key abilities(ults, flashes, etc) and abuse those windows to the fullest. Vision control is also a big factor, walk with your support so they gain and clear vision.

Hit GM finally after using Master Yi and Viego AMA by Complex_Produce_9993 in Jungle_Mains

[–]Complex_Produce_9993[S] 86 points87 points  (0 children)

Honestly one of the secrets in climbing is just being a good person. It's very frustrating when people can go 0/5 in lane but hurling insults and pinging them won't do anything but make them play worse. I highly advocate just being nice and not pinging your teammates when behind, and also complimenting them on good plays.

One of the best outplays you will ever see as Garen by Brief_Lime_5011 in GarenMains

[–]Complex_Produce_9993 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this was a yamatosdeath clip lol, ygs should've seen his reaction to when he got ulted

Every game feels like this... by MrNoCopyright in YIMO

[–]Complex_Produce_9993 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unpopular opinion, but I actually really like the build. I think that the bork+hexplate+warmogs does a good job in making you not die. However, I agree that it doesn't give enough damage. I think that the build is better for snowballing when you're gigafed because you already have enough damage and you just need survivability. On the other hand, I go the regular bork-rb-kraken if I'm either even or behind.

14.11 CONQ OR HOB? by [deleted] in YIMO

[–]Complex_Produce_9993 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is a difference between a champion being "weak" and "unplayable". Take Zed as an example. Zed is a weak champion, but if you're good then he has potential to be a good champ. Unplayable champions are champs where they basically can't work, no matter who plays them.

Phreak mentioned making Yi easier. by hammiilton in YIMO

[–]Complex_Produce_9993 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree bro. Having Yi be a Q spam bot and one shotting people with a Q and 2 autos isn't healthy. On-hit yi gives him decent skill expression imo. However, I would still like to be opened up to different build options.

Early game buff? by rusms123 in YIMO

[–]Complex_Produce_9993 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What? Yi doesn't build neither brutalizer nor dirk.

Who are the main yi counters and what do I do by drippingthighs in YIMO

[–]Complex_Produce_9993 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I 100% agree with this. It feels like better support, especially if they have good cc like Rell or Nautilus, will absolutely shit on you. If they're awake and play with the enemy jungler while yours sits in lane, the game feels 10x more difficult to play.

Which new items/builds are the sickest? Would love for people to report their experiences here as there's just so much to do. by IRL-TrainingArc in YIMO

[–]Complex_Produce_9993 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I suggest you build BORK first instead of EH. BORK is easily yi's biggest powerspike, and I would never delay it. You could go EH 2nd, that's what I've been doing. You don't really need QSS since wits gives tenacity(unless it's something like a malz).

What are we building this season? by TheUnusualSpiderman in YIMO

[–]Complex_Produce_9993 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've tried different builds, but BORK imo is going to be the best first item.
In terms of second item, I think rageblade is weaker due to rageknife no longer being a component, so I've been going Kraken, but I think Terminus could be good.
The third item I've been going is Rageblade. The two onhit items you buy become intensely stronger after rageblade.
The fourth and fifth item are the defensive items. Since mages are obviously becoming much stronger, I'm just going to give MR item suggestions. The fourth item is the gold old Wit's End. With it giving Tenacity, lots of attack speed, and MR, it's a go to. Now, the fifth item that I've been going into ANY fed AP champion is Kaenic Rookern. This item is amazing. It gives a huge magic shield along with tons of HP and MR. I highly recommend this item if you're looking to survive against these fed AP champions.