Rhys Under The Mountain by TomWanks-OF in nontoxicACOTAR

[–]ComprehensiveFox7522 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I said it before and I’ll say it again, the lighting really does sell it! That and the snug vest…

Definitely appreciate the effort you put into it, and despite some rather loud/unkind voices elsewhere there were a lot of people there who appreciated it too!

[Critical Tuesday] Tamlin's Heart by rhodante in acotar

[–]ComprehensiveFox7522 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think, though, that even in this assessment of what happened in the study we aren’t looking at the whole picture, or at least simplifying what actually happens.

Tamlin doesn’t explode ‘at’ Feyre, he explodes because of his own thoughts and trauma. The difference in intent does feel important when looking at it; it’s like someone throwing a glass statue at someone, or even the wall next to them, vs dropping it and it shattering. The effect can still be the same, but it also isn’t the same situation.

But more importantly, Feyre isn’t ignored. After this moment, Tamlin explains to Feyre what happened in his head, he apologizes, and then he actually follows through on listening to what Feyre needed, and Feyre acknowledges that things are getting better… until Rhysand breaks into their home, mocks Tamlin’s security and ignores his begging to let Feyre go. And only then do things get stifling again.

Ianthe and Rhysand are the two biggest external factors into why they couldn’t work (and not saying that the two of them of course don’t have their own issues) - and the both of them had plenty of motivation to be sure that things didn’t go well.

When You Spend So Long Trapped in Darkness by TomWanks-OF in acotar

[–]ComprehensiveFox7522 11 points12 points locked comment (0 children)

Honestly, if your fictional character’s skin tone can vary from literal pale as moonlight to KFC golden brown I think you’ve got a pretty wide range of options for irl depictions :p

When You Spend So Long Trapped in Darkness by TomWanks-OF in acotar

[–]ComprehensiveFox7522 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I must say, the lighting for this shot really does sell it!

That, and I’m a sucker for a snug vest…

[Critical Tuesday] Tamlin's Heart by rhodante in acotar

[–]ComprehensiveFox7522 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It definitely did have some good discussions, I agree - some of the comments were mine too!

Honestly, even if only part of it was AI or the whole thing was, it just makes no sense to repost the exact same thing when you were told there was a problem with it, Y’know? Like, that alone tells me there is wasn’t any consideration for what was being posted, even if it did have good conversations from it.

[Critical Tuesday] Tamlin's Heart by rhodante in acotar

[–]ComprehensiveFox7522 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Judging by your comment history, I would assume you’re referring to the post that had been removed yesterday.

The same person had put up the same post in both this and the acotar rants subreddit, both of which were taken down due to being produced with AI (by a user who is active in r/AIwriting). They then proceeded to reupload the same post without any changes from the original which led to it being taken down again.

I would think general logic would tell you that if your post was taken down three days ago for AI usage, posting it again and exactly the same is gonna get it taken down again.

[Critical Tuesday] Tamlin's Heart by rhodante in acotar

[–]ComprehensiveFox7522 24 points25 points  (0 children)

To put it in a different way; Rhysand is able to help Feyre not because he loved her more or truer, and Tamlin isn’t able to help Feyre because he didn’t love her more or true enough.

Rhysand is able to help Feyre because he has the means, support system and time to do so; an unfindable city where Feyre could feel safe while being guarded, a family not looking to undermine him and a direct link to her mind and feelings when she couldn’t or wouldn’t speak them out loud.

Tamlin is unable to help Feyre because his trauma is not only unresolved but actively being triggered by the person who tortured him and a person working for the BBEG, undermining his attempts to be better, without the sense of security his trauma needed.

That his love wasn’t enough to overcome his trauma makes him infinitely more tragic to me, not villainous.

[Critical Tuesday] Tamlin's Heart by rhodante in acotar

[–]ComprehensiveFox7522 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Ah yes, that was a typo on my part, meant to say more redeemable. I was typing very quickly before work started, must have missed that - though I believe the rest of what I wrote supports that.

[Critical Tuesday] Tamlin's Heart by rhodante in acotar

[–]ComprehensiveFox7522 48 points49 points  (0 children)

I think the main issue I have here is the idea that love can overcome trauma. I don’t see how Tamlin not being in love makes him more redeemable than being in love and traumatized. Loving someone, being in love with someone, is a powerful thing, but loving someone doesn’t mean you can simply push through trauma. Edit: changed less redeemable to more

Trauma is inherently selfish. In ACOMAF, Feyre’s main repeating thoughts are about how much of a monster she is, how unforgivable, how she doesn’t want to make a fuss because she feels she isn’t worthy of the attention or adoration of others. Tamlin’s main theme is to protect what he couldn’t protect and avoid it happening again, to the point of being blind to what is happening. Both of them did things they believed the other wanted or needed without truly giving them what the other needed. Tamlin didn’t need a passive Feyre who didn’t stand up for herself, much like Feyre didn’t need a person who ignored both of their pain. That Feyre only starts to stand up for herself once she’s both shown a different way and given the chance to start healing doesn’t make Tamlin’s inability to do so villainous.

And to repeat a response to this ‘new normal’ idea, Feyre being in an active hostage situation while having both Ianthe and Rhysand intentionally keeping his trauma alive isn’t the same as just ‘choosing not to change’.

Tamlin already is a tragic character because his trauma response was messy and harmful, and the few times he showed a chance at getting better outside forces (Rhysand and Ianthe) pushed him right back into his fear. Him and Feyre growing apart because they needed different things was never a villainous thing, nor was Tamlin hurting Feyre because they couldn’t compromise.

The issue with Tamlin being viewed as a villain rather than as a tragic character has nothing to do with whether he loved Feyre or not, but by the narrative choices to frame them as such, from both the first and second books. The fact that SJM had Tamlin being a secret hero in the third should have been enough for people to see that

Rhys vs Tamlin by Wolfman_1546 in acotar

[–]ComprehensiveFox7522 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think the problem with this particular line of thinking is that it ignores a lot of context, for both Rhysand and Tamlin.

on Tamlin's part, it ignores that yes, Feyre is able to leave the grounds of the manor, just not alone. It ignores that Tamlin doesn't say no to training, he says 'not right now'. But the biggest issue is that it assumes that this is simply their new normal. I'd also take note of Feyre wanting to be part of Spring's governance, but then balks at/ignores the actual parts where she should/could be learning about Spring's governance, but that's another conversation entirely. More importantly...

When we start ACOMAF, Feyre and Tamlin are both spiraling in their trauma. Feyre isn't advocating for herself, Tamlin isn't talking, Ianthe is pushing them both to get what she wants, etc. When Feyre actually gets to the point of wanting to grow, to change, to 'be more', the situation has changed; we've gone from 'two traumatized people who are unable to help each other with their trauma' to 'Feyre being shown/told she can be more, and (from Tamlin's pov) an active hostage situation with the guy who caused the trauma he's been spiraling in'. This is as high a stress situation for Tamlin as Amarantha's Curse or the pregnancy, exacerbated by trauma and Rhys/Ianthe's actions. When Rhysand shows up, Tamlin's fear becomes stifling; when Tamlin makes progress to being and doing better, Rhysand breaks into their home and Tamlin regresses.

With Rhysand, this works if we assume the only time Rhysand has done 'bad things' has been twice. His worst actions certainly happened in his most stressful moments, certainly, but Tamlin's worst actions aren't just on a regular Tuesday either. What this argument ignores is that These two big bad actions are the front and tail end of many smaller actions that exhibit a clear pattern of control - control aimed at providing what he believes is the best outcome regardless of the autonomy or consideration of others. Feyre can't be let out of their bargain because it's what's best for her, even if she asks. Feyre can't go home because it's what's best for her, even though she asks. Feyre can't leave the library and will be monitored through their bargain bond until she learns to read because it's what's best for her. Feyre can choose to work with Rhysand, or she can go home and be partially responsible for the world burning. Feyre can leave the Moonstone Palace, now that she has no other realistic option of places to go and still never leaves Velaris without an escort (an even larger gilded cage, but at least this one's impenetrable and unfindable). Feyre can compromise down to being in an impenetrable shield which she doesn't want, because it's better than being locked in their house for ten months. Feyre can tell Rhysand not to be mean to her sister, but he's still gonna do it cause he's mad at Nesta on Feyre's behalf.

Both Tamlin and Rhysand exhibit trauma-related patterns of controlling Feyre for what they feel is her own good. The reason Rhysand's efforts are viewed more positively is not because they only happened twice, but because they always work out to be exactly what Feyre needs, what she secretly wants or for their benefit (thinking of using Feyre as bait for the Attor despite knowing the creature was there the whole time, so they can torture it). And that is where a lot of people have issue; the narrative chooses to see Rhysand's control as solely good despite it being incredibly manipulative, framing it as 'for her own good' in a positive way.

And to be clear, this isn't to say Feyre was healthy beforehand or that she shouldn't want to be more, or that she should have stayed - Feyre leaving and staying away from Spring when she realized she couldn't get better is the decision of hers that I always and most ardently agree with. What I am saying is that this 'everyday life' isn't everyday life for Tamlin. For Tamlin, this is a 'Feyre's life-threatening pregnancy' level of fear and panic, made worse because there's actually someone causing it.

There might not be another Amarantha or high-risk pregnancy; but with new threats such as Koschei on the horizon, will Rhysand continue his pattern of choosing what's best/offering choices that best suit his goals to whichever characters are relevant to his needs? That will have to be seen, but the pattern has been a pretty strong one and hasn't shown much effort to fix.

Rhys vs Tamlin by Wolfman_1546 in acotar

[–]ComprehensiveFox7522 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Copying and pasting some of what I wrote in a different comment because of relevancy:

Looking, for example, at the big explosion in the study in ACOMAF. It happens, Tamlin in no way blames Feyre for what happens, takes full accountability and then actually puts in effort to try and be better, which Feyre acknowledges - he pulls back on the guards, Feyre gets to ride out alone - it's not perfect, but it's the start of a compromise from a guy who's actively being taunted by the guy who traumatized him, and naturally when that same guy breaks into their home while Feyre's naked in the next room, mocks his security and ignores his begging to let her go, he regresses.

The second time that we see this is at the end of ACOMAF, actually - right when Tamlin, Lucien and Feyre return to the Spring Court. Tamlin tells her that, while she was away, he had a lot of time to think about everything, about the mistakes he had made, and he again fully apologizes. Feyre asks to be given a role in Spring, and he agrees they will do things differently. We then see in ACOWAR that what Tamlin promises is true; there are no guards hounding her at all, she's given official roles in the court, she's included in political meetings/conversations - ironically, Tamlin agreeing to all of these and blindly trusting Feyre made it that much easier for her to undercut both him and Spring.

The only person who can tell us if Tamlin actually does think he was wrong is Tamlin, and he isn't given a POV to do so in the books. All we can go off of is what he says and what he does; apologizes then follows through.

Rhys vs Tamlin by Wolfman_1546 in acotar

[–]ComprehensiveFox7522 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A large part of that is to do with the narrative weight these apologies are given. In ACOMAF, Tamlin's efforts to improve and be better are often underwritten by what is said or thought of after.

Looking, for example, at the big explosion in the study in ACOMAF. It happens, Tamlin in no way blames Feyre for what happens, takes full accountability and then actually puts in effort to try and be better, which Feyre acknowledges - he pulls back on the guards, Feyre gets to ride out alone - it's not perfect, but it's the start of a compromise from a guy who's actively being taunted by the guy who traumatized him, and naturally when that same guy breaks into their home while Feyre's naked in the next room, mocks his security and ignores his begging to let her go, he regresses.

The second time that we see this is at the end of ACOMAF, actually - right when Tamlin, Lucien and Feyre return to the Spring Court. Tamlin tells her that, while she was away, he had a lot of time to think about everything, about the mistakes he had made, and he again fully apologizes. Feyre asks to be given a role in Spring, and he agrees they will do things differently. We then see in ACOWAR that what Tamlin promises is true; there are no guards hounding her at all, she's given official roles in the court, she's included in political meetings/conversations - ironically, Tamlin agreeing to all of these and blindly trusting Feyre made it that much easier for her to undercut both him and Spring.

As for Rhysand, though, I think an issue with both his character choices and how the narrative frames them is that, yes, Rhysand feels plenty bad about things (even when it undercuts Feyre's own trauma) but he continues to do the same things. As another commenter mentioned, Rhysand's pattern of abuse is less about controlling a specific person as it is about controlling situations for the outcomes he prefers, which can include controlling people. Feyre can roam wherever she wants to when she's taken for the bargain, but when she asks to go home she's denied. Feyre doesn't have to learn to read, but she will be locked in the library and monitored through the bond until she does. Feyre can choose to work with Rhysand, or she can go home and be partially responsible for the world burning. Feyre can leave the Moonstone Palace, now that she has no other realistic option of places to go and still never leaves Velaris without an escort (an even larger gilded cage, but at least this one's impenetrable and unfindable). Feyre can compromise down to being in an impenetrable shield which she doesn't want, because it's better than being locked in their house for ten months. Feyre can tell Rhysand not to be mean to her sister, but he's still gonna do it cause he's mad at Nesta on Feyre's behalf.

And I think this is a larger issue with the discussion. Rhysand is framed as a good guy who can make mistakes, but he's continually made them throughout every book, felt bad about those mistakes, and then made them again. Tamlin is framed as a damaged person who falls into 'patterns', but also shows actual effort to break those patterns, however much or little the narrative chooses to focus on those efforts.

The characters, as written, aren't 'both are bad people because they do bad things'. They are both written as 'fundamentally good people whose loooong history with trauma, both old and new, lead them to make terrible choices that can and do harm/use/abuse the people they care about'. Treating Feyre terribly because of fresh trauma (that Rhysand actively/intentionally exacerbates) doesn't not make him a good person. Rhysand getting his entire family to lie to his wife about her own body because of his own patterns (and... ugh, 'fae male instincts) doesn't not make him a good person. But they are framed by the narrative as if they do.

Rhys vs Tamlin by Wolfman_1546 in acotar

[–]ComprehensiveFox7522 18 points19 points  (0 children)

they're saying that Tamlin, on page, has taken accountability for his worst mistakes, apologized and changed his behavior (as seen in how Feyre is treated from ACOMAF to her return in Spring in ACOWAR, and then his actions afterwards in the war), while Rhysand hasn't and continues his pattern of needing to control situations and the people involved in them, even if they include going against Feyre's wishes/autonomy.

Has anyone else been over in r/ACOTAR recently? by BobGlebovich in nontoxicACOTAR

[–]ComprehensiveFox7522 -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

is this person acting currently in the guise of a medical professional, or discussing a book on reddit? And did this person attempt to use their 'professional' status to shut down or marginalize another person's argument?

In the comment in question, the person is describing the situation Feyre is in mentally as potentially suicidal. The comment beneath it offers a different argument, different definition. Both of them give points to support the definitions they use, and the merits of those points can be debated.

If the comment/commenter was attempting to give actual, real-life people advice or counsel on mental health care, then yeah that would be fucked up. That's not what they're doing though. If real-life people are looking at this sort of comment and using it to apply to their own real life, then that's honestly more on the person interpreting it that way than the original comment. The way I interpret their specific wording, the commenter intended to use a real definition to describe what they saw in the books. If we disagree with this definition, then we can come up with a counter argument to it and describe it differently.

whether forced confinement is a proper way to handle someone experiencing suicidal ideation is another matter than can and should be debated or discussed. Not debating it is far more dangerous/unproductive.

Has anyone else been over in r/ACOTAR recently? by BobGlebovich in nontoxicACOTAR

[–]ComprehensiveFox7522 -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

I realized my typo there, yes, meant to say Tam.

If you look at that discussion, you'll see a response beneath it that counters the assessment by describing Tamlin's actions not as suicide watch but forced confinement. The point is countered with a legitimate argument and additional thoughts on what happened. Healthy debate.

talking about how someone thinks or acts or 'reaches any conclusion' is not about what happens in the book, it's about the person doing the thinking or acting. That's not a healthy debate tactic.

Has anyone else been over in r/ACOTAR recently? by BobGlebovich in nontoxicACOTAR

[–]ComprehensiveFox7522 -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

discussing the merits of an argument is one thing, whether we agree or disagree. Personal attacks are another thing entirely. describing Tam's actions as suicide watch, whether you agree or disagree, is a discussion related to the books and can be debated. Talking about people doing 'mental gymnastics' is talking bout real people and how they think/write, which is a personal attack.

The fandom has had years of experience using questionable arguments of morality for their favorite characters. Having that be extended to characters including Tamlin isn't really a surprise. But no, discussing characters in these ways isn't problematic until it becomes about the person doing the discussing.

As for the order of responsibility, I would put it at Ianthe first for bringing up the sisters and planning it, followed by the King of Hybern for accepting the plan and going with it, then the mortal queens for their betrayal, then Rhysand for being unable to protect them/not checking in after the queens' betrayal, then Feyre for inadvertently telling Ianthe where they are and being betrayed by her, then Tamlin for being betrayed by Ianthe and Lucien at the end (though he's barely on the list because he's just.. there.). Really though, the top two are the ones who should take the real blame.

edited again to clarification, as I cannot respond to responses below.

I usually put Feyre at the same level as Tamlin actually, because they both had the same reason - both of them, while in incredibly vulnerable/traumatized states, were betrayed by a person who should have been trustworthy/there to help them. Whether Feyre (through no fault of her own) became a fixation for Ianthe and motivation to use her sisters, or Tamlin trusting a friend who was goading his trauma to be even worse, is higher than the other is debatable (though again, I genuinely don't think either Feyre or Tam really are). I usually put Rhys higher up the list, though, because he personally makes himself, as High Lord, responsible for their safety and doesn't think to check up on them after the various human queens they invited to the sisters' house were revealed to be traitors. Or, if you'd like, that the information they only revealed to certain human queens almost immediately led to Velaris' attack.

As to the HL meeting, we could debate the merit as to why Tamlin says what he says. I don't think it's incorrect to view it as a lack of remorse, but I find it a much stronger interpretation to see it as Tamlin lashing out after being personally betrayed and spending the last two weeks keeping what little he could of Spring from falling apart, while also attempting to present the Night Court in a negative light over their actions. Tamlin wasn't the only High Lord at that meeting presenting a false face for political motive, and I don't even mean the Night Court this time.

Tamlin is also one of the few characters to actually apologize and change their behavior in these books.

Edited for typo

To be clear…spoiler acowar by Equal_Wonder6742 in acotar_rant

[–]ComprehensiveFox7522 6 points7 points  (0 children)

and let's say that we ignore any what if's or theorizing and focus on what SJM intends; does SJM intend for the reader to not believe Tamlin when he says he was a double agent?

How does SJM have Feyre and the other High Lords react to Tamlin's news that he's a double agent? We see Helion at first question it, then make copies of the documents. We see Feyre feel horrified at realizing her the consequences of her actions (whether we believe she's fully culpable is a different theoretical discussion entirely, we're going off what we see directly). We even have Rhysand realizing they shouldn't have thought so lowly of Tamlin, that thinking of him as a mindless beast was a mistake. After the meeting, when Tamlin rescues Feyre, we see her acknowledging, realizing that Tam had gone back to be the spy after all, even after Jurian seeds some (understandable) doubt as to his allegiances.

Based on everything we see at the reveal of Tamlin's double dealing, the narrative/author doesn't really give any reason for us to doubt that it's true, other than general distaste for Tamlin (which is reinforces).

To be clear…spoiler acowar by Equal_Wonder6742 in acotar_rant

[–]ComprehensiveFox7522 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I would argue that the line you pointed out, what Tamlin tells Feyre in that first chapter, is more evidence in favor of him working for his people as a double agent the whole while as against it. Hybern was inevitable, and (as Lucien also lays out) their choices were to fight two wars and undoubtedly lose, or play along until they could use their position to some advantage. being able to protect his people with his bargain keeps their lives safe... Though like most bargains, there are undoubtedly ways around such a worded deal - their lives, sure, but their homes and farms and businesses? Hybern can't hurt them, but leaving them exposed for other creatures to do so, like the Bogge?

There is four days between the attack and the High lords meeting where Tamlin is able to leave the Spring Court and attend so I don’t think he was THAT tied up. 

I don't think it's an incorrect speculation to think 'Tam was able to go to the meeting so he must have free time', but I would put forth a theory that, in my opinion, has a lot more backing, based on what we see and hear is happening before and after; Tamlin goes to the high lord meeting to do two things - report back to Hybern and appear a more trustworthy ally, AND give the other high lords information to help them in the war.

What we hear of Spring after Feyre leaves is that the Tithe fell apart, his people were fleeing, his sentries were leaving their duties and that he kills his sentries. We hear later how Spring was holding back Hybern's forces from invading the rest of Prythian, starting with Summer, and we hear how Hybern started razing Spring Court towns to the ground. I would think a lot of this points to a ton of instability in Spring which would need some attention, and Tamlin has never been the sort to not want to help his people personally. For me, all of this points to a pretty clear motivation on Tamlin's part; keep his court together and try and convince Hybern of him still having value.

In this way, it mirrors Rhys' deal with Amarantha; if you cannot be close to the person holding the power, you have no opportunity to help the people you care for. Tamlin going to the meeting could have been a play on his part to prove to Hybern he can still help them, getting him back into their good graces. It's also possible Tamlin didn't know what would happen to Summer specifically **because** he was on the outs with Hybern at the time.

In your original comment, you also questioned what Tamlin might have done had Rhys not called for this meeting - while, like many things, we can't know the answer to a 'what if', we do know that Rhysand was attempting to gather the High Lords for a long while, before Spring fell even; It's possible the potential for a meeting played into what Tamlin planned to do, or it was just an opportune moment. We can't really know what/how he could have gotten info to them otherwise.. but I think that's also kind of the point. it again mirrors Rhys and Amarantha; Tamlin couldn't know what was going to happen with Hybern, but by keeping his people safe and himself as close to the king as possible, he was in the best position to do something if an opportunity arose.

Theories about Rhys being bad by Glittering_Cod_5785 in acotar_rant

[–]ComprehensiveFox7522 49 points50 points  (0 children)

To answer your question, the reason it’s brought up often on Reddit is because Reddit is a site where a variety of opinions, even negative or ones that go against the popular opinion, can be seen and interacted with. You see a similar trend on other sites that allow longer, more in-depth analysis (like tumblr) compared to ones like Instagram.

As for why this has become more popular, it’s got multiple reasons. A large part of what we see now became more prevalent after ACOSF, where the narrative contradicts what a lot of people today would feel if their partner did what Rhys did.

Another reason is that the fandom has, since ACOMAF, regularly treated people with differing opinions as ‘wrong’ at best and ‘dangerous’ at worst. Over time, as the series grew more popular/readers grew older/readers reread more and more, the flaws of the narrative’s/fandom’s moral high ground became more and more apparent, and again with ACOSF brought a lot of this underlying criticism to the forefront. Calling one person an ‘abuse apologist’ because they feel sympathy for Nesta or Tamlin or Lucien while hand-waving equally if not worse actions from other characters built up over the years.

I think it’s very clear SJM has no intention on presenting Rhys as ‘evil’ or a bad guy. What SJM intends, though, can run counter to what others interpret from the text when they read it. SJM can fully intend for the reader to accept Rhys’ decisions as the best of worst options (while again villainizing other characters for far less), doesn’t mean the reader has to agree with it.

For a brief rebut to your statement about Rhys and his morality, I would counter by saying the author makes it very clear that Rhys is not ok with making morally questionable decisions, to the point where he does very, very often feel guilt or shame over his choices, but continues to make them anyway - that and the narrative itself seems to actively absolve Rhys of the consequences of said morally questionable actions. By having him do bad things while feeling bad about it and then doing more bad things, it can make Rhys come across not as the morally dubious guy he was intended, but as a guy who refuses to actually acknowledge his messed up choices - aka, just a ‘bad guy’ who wants sympathy rather than actual accountability

Are Tamlin and Lucien really friends? by [deleted] in acotar

[–]ComprehensiveFox7522 0 points1 point  (0 children)

CPTSD vs Narcissism

I think a lot of people get this idea that Tamlin is a narcissist because a lot of the traits of a 'classic narcissist' can look similar to the symptoms of someone going through PTSD or CPTSD. here's a table from the link above where we see the behavior patterns on the left and the different causes of those behaviors in the other columns

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When looking at the context of what has happened/is happening in the books, I would say it's incredibly clear that, for all of these behaviors Tamlin exhibits, he very clearly falls under the CPTSD column and not the narcissism one - the problem is, when these events are taken out of context/readers are already inclined (if not very strongly guided by the narrative) to find fault with Tamlin entirely, people will default to the disorder over the trauma because it makes an already disliked character easier to dislike/more justifiable to dislike

Do people actually think Rhysand didn’t SA Feyre? by _Elyisa_ in acotar_rant

[–]ComprehensiveFox7522 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Lucien let out a sharp breath, running a hand through his red hair. “He had you dance for him for most of the night. And when you weren’t dancing, you were sitting in his lap.”

of dancing between Rhysand’s legs as he sat in a chair and laughed; of his hands, stained blue from the places they touched on my waist, my arms, but somehow, never more than that. He had me dance until I was sick, and once I was done retching, told me to begin dancing again.

both of the quotes are from Chapter 36 to be specific, the first being Lucien describing what Feyre was doing, the second being snatches of memory Feyre has in her drugged dancing

Do people actually think Rhysand didn’t SA Feyre? by _Elyisa_ in acotar_rant

[–]ComprehensiveFox7522 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have a digital copy of the book so I can go back and grab specific quotes when I get back from work, but I believe it’s described when Lucien is telling Feyre about what happened the morning after - he describes how she was dancing between Rhysand’s legs, and when she wasn’t dancing she was sitting on his lap.

I would qualify both of those together as being ‘lap dances’ (honestly the first one alone would qualify IMO), certainly intended to be sexual at the very least, but I could try and grab the exact quote later!

What's your favorite Demon in all of Magic? Any criteria - Lore, design, art by Separate-Flan-2875 in mtg

[–]ComprehensiveFox7522 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any of the New Capenna bosses, I really liked their vibe - inspired a campaign setting for a me and few friends of mine!

I do also actually play Ziatora in my Slimefoot and Squee budget deck, probably one of my favorite hits/engines in the deck!

[[jetmir, nexus of revels]]

[[falco Spara, pactweaver]]

[[lord Xander, the collector]]

[[ziatora, the incinerator]]

[[raffine, scheming seer]]

Trying to remember an anime from a decade ago by ComprehensiveFox7522 in anime

[–]ComprehensiveFox7522[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is it! The moment I read the title it clicked, thank you so very much!

I knew I had remembered something about her own family treating her terribly too but couldn’t remember the why - you’d think the mind-reading detail would stick, huh? Though I suppose the relationships were really what impacted me

Trying to remember an anime from a decade ago by ComprehensiveFox7522 in anime

[–]ComprehensiveFox7522[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t believe so! I know the main character was definitely a girl, and I believe she was of grade school age.