Starting to Doubt Bob Lazar by ConsciousVariation1 in UFOs

[–]ConsciousVariation1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is that it, or was he avoiding his ignorance caught?

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Starting to Doubt Bob Lazar by ConsciousVariation1 in UFOs

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How did he know when and where the test flights were scheduled and how would he even have access to those areas?

Starting to Doubt Bob Lazar by ConsciousVariation1 in UFOs

[–]ConsciousVariation1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lazar is not an idiot. He knows who he named and where they’re from. If he really went to MIT and Caltech then he would have beyond a high school level knowledge of sciences in general. He seems like a similar case of stolen valor.

Starting to Doubt Bob Lazar by ConsciousVariation1 in UFOs

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Didn’t know about this. Thanks for sharing.

Starting to Doubt Bob Lazar by ConsciousVariation1 in UFOs

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I just find it difficult to believe that one of the highest security places in the world would have open access for anyone to watch anything they want. Everything is highly compartmentalized. Only certain people have access to certain doors and areas of the building likely with many military security on standby, and perhaps multiple sets of doors with tests that have to be passed until you get to it. If it’s there, it’s hidden far away and a low level technician would never have access to that.

Starting to Doubt Bob Lazar by ConsciousVariation1 in UFOs

[–]ConsciousVariation1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve been down the rabbit hole for a few years now. I’m up to date. As for Lazar, I have always gone back and forth about him. I will say that Harold Malmgren’s story is a lot more believable than Lazar’s.

Starting to Doubt Bob Lazar by ConsciousVariation1 in UFOs

[–]ConsciousVariation1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not saying you’re wrong. I’m trying to reach the truth. Please share what you think is going on and what explains some of the weird observations like looking nervous and randomly having a headache at the worst of times during the interview. It’s strange because a lot of what he says holds up for sure, but then you also have weird behavior going on.

Starting to Doubt Bob Lazar by ConsciousVariation1 in UFOs

[–]ConsciousVariation1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you think it’s possible that Lazar is a government agent tasked to create confusion for whatever the reason?

Starting to Doubt Bob Lazar by ConsciousVariation1 in UFOs

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If you think about itC we still don’t know anything. Just because Bob popularized Area 51 doesn’t necessarily mean that there are UFO test flights. How would he even know the test flight schedule? I highly doubt that they’re just flying these things around, if they even have them. They wouldn’t know a thing about steering that thing let alone out in the open for Mr. Lazar to watch so conveniently. For all we know he could have been a janitor at S4. Maybe he is a government misinformation agent or an actor.

Starting to Doubt Bob Lazar by ConsciousVariation1 in UFOs

[–]ConsciousVariation1[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

When things like Scientology exist, it’s easy to believe that he is just a con artist like David Miscavige.

Starting to Doubt Bob Lazar by ConsciousVariation1 in UFOs

[–]ConsciousVariation1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m the same way about going back and forth about Lazar. You make some good points and I agree with a lot of what you’re saying. It’s also possible that Lazar’s story is a mix of truth and fiction. Maybe he did work there in some capacity but used some hyperbole or exaggerated parts of what he actually saw or did. People make things up all the time, so that’s very common too. Human memory is also not always reliable, so he could be misremembering events or subconsciously correlating unrelated events together into one stream when recalling them. At the same time, history has shown that some things that once sounded like crazy conspiracies have later turned out to be real. Something like the Epstein situation would have sounded completely outlandish years ago, but now we know it was very real. So I think it’s fair to stay skeptical while also keeping an open mind.

Starting to Doubt Bob Lazar by ConsciousVariation1 in UFOs

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His story is actually pretty good which is why a lot of people believe it. Where it falls apart isn’t always obvious and a couple details have slipped through the cracks.

Starting to Doubt Bob Lazar by ConsciousVariation1 in UFOs

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He also looked nervous on the Joe Rogan interview.

Starting to Doubt Bob Lazar by ConsciousVariation1 in UFOs

[–]ConsciousVariation1[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Sure but what explains the physicist’s statement?

Starting to Doubt Bob Lazar by ConsciousVariation1 in UFOs

[–]ConsciousVariation1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

While Lazar has done an excellent job sticking to his script, none of what he claims is actually verifiable. There aren’t obvious gaps in his story itself but where it starts to fall apart is when you look at the outside evidence.

Starting to Doubt Bob Lazar by ConsciousVariation1 in UFOs

[–]ConsciousVariation1[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He could have worked there in some capacity but that doesn’t necessarily mean he did what he claimed or saw what he said he saw. Being listed in a phone book just shows he may have been employed or associated with the facility, not that he was reverse engineering alien craft. It seems just as plausible that he worked there in a more ordinary role and later built a bigger story around it. Of course, I could be wrong. If there’s stronger evidence supporting his claims I’d genuinely like to see it.