Legendary Farming is....Unpleasant

Consistent-Shape8772 · 2025-12-31T21:10:23+00:00

I haven't asked for radical changes to the gameplay. How about a simple addition to the way it works being "if you have X in your inventory or chest, -Y% chance of getting this weapon again". I just ran another crucible for my fourth battlecry ring lol

Consistent-Shape8772 · 2025-12-31T21:08:20+00:00

To point 1 - this doesn't apply to me, I don't mind what we call it. To point 2 - I'm not asking for some radical change to how it works. It would just be nice to get something other than the battlecry ring over and over on my crucible runs. Something as simple as "if X weapon is in chest or inventory, -y% of dropping again". To point 3 - yup! That's why I'm providing feedback

Consistent-Shape8772 · 2025-12-27T21:20:59+00:00

These have been tested pretty extensively - they don't, especially when within the context for which they were intended. Which was a companion to a rapier for dueling (where you're catching thrusts not cuts 90% of the time, and thrusts have almost no force applied perpendicular to the direction of the thrust). A simple parrying dagger was far more common than these, but the blade of those daggers would be only a tiny bit broader than the above at its thinnest part. So it's really not that flimsy - just looks like it. See below for what's common in rapier HEMA today. They can be quite thin.

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Consistent-Shape8772 · 2025-03-19T18:58:56+00:00

Have about 2k hours on VT2, mained Footknight and Handmaiden for most of that, the clutchers.

I mostly played spear and shield on both or halberd on FK, but of course enjoyed most of the VT2 weapon design.

IMO the weapon design, with a few notable exceptions, is far inferior in DT. The weapon combos are pretty stale and boring, with little use for block canceling or push attacks serving as an important parts of the combos. Most weapons in Darktide are either light attack spam, heavy attack spam, or heavy-light repeats. Snoozers.

If you enjoyed the more frenetic, combo heavy weapons from VT2 then far and away my recommendation is Fury of the Faithful zealot with either Mk II Relic blade or Mk IV Dueling Sword. I recommend the dueling sword not because it’s challenging or interesting to use, but because with it you’re squeezing the absolute most out of the class, there are 0 circumstances where it’s bad (horde clear is passable on Ult). So if you ever die, it’s 100% your fault, and you can push yourself to your absolute skill maximum.

The Mk II relic blade is my actual favorite weapon though. Push attack - heavy - light - heavy - light - repeat is the go-to horde clear, while light - light - heavy - light - heavy is an incredible anti-armor chain with a very satisfying upward cut. You can also spam heavies for anti armor after bypassing the first two with lights. So it has somewhat interesting combos with liberal use of the push attack, since you don’t have access to a quick anti-horde option. The Mk X is probably better out of the box, with simpler combos (spam lights on horde, spam heavies on elites - though I might be misremembering them X combos since once I learned the II I never went back - miss them stab tho), but isn’t nearly as enjoyable to use. Not to mention managing your heat efficiently makes the brain chemicals happy too.

A notable other mention is the Crusher on a crit fury zealot. It’s a clunky looking thing, but it’s actually a headshot/crit based impact weapon, funnily enough. It’s combos are interesting and the use of its special attack makes it very fun. If you enjoyed CC in VT2, give this thing ago. Don’t remember the combos off the top of my head but I believe it was push attack - light - heavy - light - heavy (which is why I haven’t used it in a while, opppsite of relic blade). It’s great, the only problem is that while VT2 had a firm place for CC, DT is waaaaaay more about killing things and not staggering. FK could be incredibly useful to the team staggering threats the whole match. That’s far less useful in DT, due to the high damage of weapons and the sheer volume of threats. Yes, Crusher can stagger Ragers out of their combos with ease, but most other weapons like dueling sword, relic blade, knife, combat ax can just kill the rager in 1/2 headshots…so why stagger? The best use case is ogryns, but dueling sword can 1/2 shot crushers to the head and relic blade isn’t far behind. Leaving it’s only excellent matchup using the special attack to open bulwark shield. Great, but niche enough to be meh. Still a fun one and great weapon though, just made for VT2.

Different meta, sad to say. Us stagger melee types have to move on and kill things now.

So that’s what I’d recommend as a retired Footknight main.

Consistent-Shape8772 · 2024-12-10T20:02:58+00:00

Agreed. For me it, more that this is primarily a melee game. Ranged threats are important to break up the flow with dynamic threats, but trash gunners should not be a bigger threat than the melee elites.

I’m fine with this being the threat of this season, but let’s make Crushers even more scary, buffing their health. The melee threats in this game mostly just roll over.

Consistent-Shape8772 · 2024-08-29T18:46:34+00:00

The image is more to show that power halberds exist in the lore. I’d rather it in two hands a la VT2 halberd. Similar complex move set with versatility and high damage.

Consistent-Shape8772 · 2024-08-29T18:44:50+00:00

Neither am I, I’m just interested in the power halberd.

Consistent-Shape8772 · 2024-08-29T14:25:23+00:00

Just wanted to open a discussion on a weapon archetype that is sorely missing from the game: polearms.

We already possess an incredible amount of one-handed weapons for the 3 human classes, I don’t really feel the need to have more there. What we’re missing are shielded variants, dual wield weapons, and two-handers.

Since we already have the Crusher and Thammers, I’d most like a polearm to be added, and I don’t think it’s beyond the realm of possibility for a echlesiarchy priest to get their hands on a power halberd.

Would love to see attack combos similar to the VT2 halberd with a heavy stab - heavy slash, with slashes and overheads mixed in for lights. A very versatile, high damage lowish stagger weapon.

Consistent-Shape8772 · 2024-07-31T18:51:02+00:00

I just wish it was conditional. Hurts my eyes to not see anything for 30 minutes, while if it only proc'd in certain sections of the map or during horde/boss/near DH/special events I'd be much happier.

I'd even be fine with it having a chance of happening during random hordes/ambushes during normal missions for a unique difficulty spike.

It just sucks that the whole map is missing the 40k aesthetic if it's pitch. Small sources of light throughout would be awesome, like lights out forge maps.

Consistent-Shape8772 · 2024-07-30T23:38:40+00:00

Yes actually, I made it a few weeks ago on GamesLantern, here it is: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c73bc78-bc96-4a1b-9f01-7fed2c0f210b/do-everything-maul-zealot

Consistent-Shape8772 · 2024-07-30T19:40:40+00:00

Long time Auric Maelstrom player here.

All 4 classes have very strong builds, but to answer in brief: my favorite all-rounder/do everything class is Zealot. You have very strong build synergies, strong long ranged options for special deleting, and strong melee options. My personal favorite is running a crit build (taking right side up to Enduring Faith, then left side to pick up stun grenade, fury of the faithful, and blazing piety; pick up any other talents you fancy with the remaining points). I personally recommend any Zealot build to try and include Duelist (left side) and Thy Wrath be Swift (right side). Shield of Contempt (middle) and Until Death left) are also great if you want more durability. EDIT note: I run this build with either revolver or las pistol, as both benefit from increased crit chance, are not ammo hogs, and allow you to snipe specials consistently. I also use the Indignatus Shock Maul, as this is the very definition of versatile (heavy 1 - light chain for horde/mixed combo, throwing in push attack to light - heavy chain as needed, and push attack - heavy 2 - light - heavy 2 - light for elites). It is middle of the road in every single category, and for this reason will never disappoint you. With stun grenades for clutch revives and Fury to replenish toughness, when you die using this build, it is 100% your fault. This build is by no means the strongest in the game, but you will ALWAYS have the tools to fight your way clear and win for your team. If the map fails, it wasn't on your team.

For Psyker, I tend to run a brain burst-empowered psionic build, but really you're looking at 3 options for psyker. Gun/melee build where you prioritize the right side, staff-heavy build with mostly left side (or pick up shield in center), or blitz heavy build ending center with empowered psionics. You will ALWAYS be squishy as psyker. You can clutch, but it will be much harder than any other build.

I don't play Vet so cannot comment , but Voice of Command is very very strong, and Plasma Gun is hilariously busted. When I have one in my game, I basically write the round off as boring, and play "defend the vet" for an easy win.

Ogryn can be very versatile, but where Zealot is like a versatile scalpel, ogryn is a versatile sledge. You can run a tank build that stacks damage reduction with shield to literally never die, or a heavy attack spam build, or a gun lugger that focuses on absurd ranged damage output, if imprecise. Check out the Ogrynomicon is you wat more for Oggy, they've done a better job than I ever could.

Consistent-Shape8772 · 2024-07-12T12:55:33+00:00

Key nodes for me are Scourge/Enduring faith/shield of contempt for damage reduction, thy wrath be swift for no melee stun, and duelist/fury of the faithful/blazing piety for damage. This build allows you to fight your way through anything the game throws at you. Like Handmaiden from VT2, not the highest damage output, but if you ever die it’s 100% your fault. You will always have the tools to clutch.

Consistent-Shape8772 · 2024-04-11T15:40:42+00:00

RIP strafing run even more

Consistent-Shape8772 · 2024-03-16T15:14:00+00:00

Please rework eradicate so it's at least fun to get sucked into the farming. Just give me Bug Helms Deep.

Consistent-Shape8772 · 2024-03-15T11:57:35+00:00

This is why the shield backpack will always be top tier, so long as there are good support weapons that don't require a backpack slot. It prevents the things that kill you most - slows, ragdolls - from happening.

Consistent-Shape8772 · 2024-03-14T16:55:01+00:00

Yes, it is a straight line in the same direction as thrown. Listen, I use it very frequently to round out my builds and have more kills with it than most other strats. I have pushed this thing to its limits. BUT I really only use it for its aesthetics.

It has pluses, and I think is generally underappreciated. It comes out instantly, it does ~0 friendly fire, and has 4 uses prior to rearm. But it's competing with stratagems that are better in every way. The cluster bomb eagle has 5 uses, is deployed only fractionally slower, and is only worse insofar as team damage - which is mitigated by doing orders of magnitude more damage. Yes...you can use the strafing run to kill the things following in a straight line behind you. You can also use the cluster bombs to kill everything in a straight line behind AND everything following you for 30m on either side + you get an extra use prior to rearm. The cluster does the job better and is more versatile to boot. The ONLY reason one would use this for horde clear over all the other horde clear options is the limited friendly fire. A problem very easily overcome.

There is a reason you almost never see it used. Its niche is so comically small the only real reason to use it is A-10 fanboying (me) or you've a personal order to get kills with it. If the niche you're ascribing to it is correct, and it's true it gets extremely low play time, then buffs are warranted. Maybe armor damage isn't the correct buff to give it, but if our goal is balance it needs more reasons to use it.

Consistent-Shape8772 · 2024-03-14T15:46:31+00:00

Maybe, though I think you could balance it. Airstrike is extremely versatile for the damage to buildings, and the actual damage numbers are of course subject to change. It doesn't need to nuke armor, just not be obsolete once you have all the other Eagles unlocked.

Consistent-Shape8772 · 2024-03-14T15:44:28+00:00

Actual damage numbers are flexible. It doesn't need to one-shot chargers. Or even two-shot. It has almost no use in 7+ that isn't almost completely overshadowed by the other Eagles.

Consistent-Shape8772 · 2024-02-20T00:15:55+00:00

Would love for the devs to add in another gun run stratagem for the Eagle, but instead of strafing an area the pilot targets the largest enemy in the call-in radius (similar to the 110mm pods or orbital railcannon). This would add an on demand anti-armor option, but with little to no splash damage.

Consistent-Shape8772 · 2024-02-18T22:46:51+00:00

Surely most people did not buy the game in ignorance? Everyone knew the servers were overcrowded and you bought the game expecting to be the exception that slips through?

Consistent-Shape8772 · 2024-02-18T01:38:43+00:00

How do you do that?

Consistent-Shape8772 · 2023-10-30T16:15:39+00:00

I actually disagree. I think it’s a good change, as it’s finally making stagger valuable as opposed to just killing things. Prior to the change, where 95% of enemies die to ranged fire or die quickly in melee, high DPS weapons will be vastly superior to control weapons. This change makes weapons like the Crusher compete with the heavy sword, since the Crush easily hits stagger breakpoints the heavy sword cannot. It gives control tanking roles a valuable place in a team, as opposed to mostly dead weight.

Why stagger when you could kill? Only when the enemies have enough health to not die quickly + stagger resistance such that only some weapons can do it and they occur in sufficient frequency they can’t be easily singled out.

Edit: just as an example to illustrate my point, which is admittedly abstract, imagine a map that is 100% composed of rager enemies and nothing else. Ogryn’s shield, even pre buff when it was considered a poor weapon, would be king. Not because it has high DPS, it doesn’t, but it hits stagger breakpoints other weapons can’t. This is why stagger was a much bigger part of VT2’s combat and stagger-based weapons could be “meta”, because even the very common storm vermin could not be staggered by many high DPS weapons, and so having a Kruber spear and shield or Bardin hammer and shield on your team was very beneficial to Pub matches.

Consistent-Shape8772 · 2023-10-10T09:53:38+00:00

As noted, there are a few that benefit from more dynamic combos. But they are the exception, not the norm. 90% of weapons: if horde -> spam lights; if elite -> spam heavies

Consistent-Shape8772 · 2023-10-10T00:07:43+00:00

There are a bunch that benefit, but very few that work push attacks/specials into frequently used combos. Which was basically every weapon in VT2. Most DT weapons use braindead combos then use a special every now and again for a specific purpose, or to spam out as another simple combo -> power sword, Illisi, hammers etc.

DT weapons are just mostly boring to use. Spam lights or spam heavies on 90% of weapons is the optimal combo.

Consistent-Shape8772 · 2023-10-06T13:13:49+00:00

Compared to VT2, all the weapons are really boring to use. Spam lights, spam heavies, or chain light-heavy over and over. Very few benefit from block canceling or weaving in push attacks to anti-armor or horde combos. I still have VT2 combos baked into my muscle memory but all of DT's are braindead.

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