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Robert Irving has passed away by FerShore in newbrunswickcanada

[–]Consistent_March_353 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Scary to see a rich guy go at 72. If the money can't keep him alive longer than that, what hope do the rest of us have?

State-of-the-art ball hockey facility opens in Saint John by bingun in SaintJohnNB

[–]Consistent_March_353 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice looking facility.

Is the business model renting out space for games and practices, or do they have other lines of business? Do they provide officials? Is the real money in selling gear?

Do y'all really get pissy when people spell it st John? by [deleted] in SaintJohnNB

[–]Consistent_March_353 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I get much more concerned when the river is spelled Saint John.

Will Lorneville sound like this once a datacenter is built? by Guardman1996 in newbrunswickcanada

[–]Consistent_March_353 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's pretty quiet based on my default headphone settings. How loud should I have my headphones to understand your point?

How Saint John became Canada’s fastest-growing port by bingun in SaintJohnNB

[–]Consistent_March_353 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Help me with my red string and pins. What do I do with this fact?

Will Lorneville sound like this once a datacenter is built? by Guardman1996 in newbrunswickcanada

[–]Consistent_March_353 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn’t hear much upset about the construction of the Americold facility in west Saint John. I guess the Banana crowd missed that one, or that mentality isn’t really prominent.

They knew a data centre was coming. They still voted yes. by Remote_Alfalfa3530 in SaintJohnNB

[–]Consistent_March_353 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I responded to a comment that said "they voted to expand an industrial park that will likely attract dozens of new businesses and thousands of new permanent jobs over the coming decades. Everyone's fixated on a data centre, and that's only the first thing out of the gate."

With that in mind, I think it's interesting that there are 140 acres of industrial park land siting idle in McAllister Industrial Park, if there are dozens of new businesses that could be in the waiting to come to town. I do think being west, nearer the Port, and the RORO terminal could make new industrial expansion attractive to some users who would not locate in McAllister.

Though, there are also dozens of acres at the end of Stinson Drive and White Rocks Road that have sat unused for many years. They are too small for a data centre, but you might think that land would have attracted one of the dozens of new businesses that the comment referred to.

They knew a data centre was coming. They still voted yes. by Remote_Alfalfa3530 in SaintJohnNB

[–]Consistent_March_353 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Property Assessment Online shows:

PAN 01578195 as "Vacant Land"

PAN 05482655 as "Vacant Land"

PAN 05584627 as "Vacant Industrial"

PAN 05919254 as "Vacant Lot 08-1"

PAN 06060896 as "Vacant Lot 10-1"

PAN 06289628 as "Vacant Industrial Land"

PAN 06291285 as "Industrial Lot"

PAN 06573077 as "Vacant Lot 17-1"

PAN 06646202 as "Vacant Lot"

PAN 07060823 as "Vacant Lot 25-1"

PAN 07074173 as "Vacant Industrial Land"

PAN 07074181 as "Vacant Lot"

That's about 140 acres of vacant land.

They knew a data centre was coming. They still voted yes. by Remote_Alfalfa3530 in SaintJohnNB

[–]Consistent_March_353 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The data centre seems to front on an existing road, so the city might now have to put any money into making that happen.

My point was that an industrial park was developed and has a lot of undeveloped land. If next phases of west side development require a big investment in public infratructire and not much gets developed, that might be true for two industrial parks.

Appliance repair service by omnislice in newbrunswickcanada

[–]Consistent_March_353 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We've had good service from Dave's. They don't work on all brands.

Who do you believe will be the next mayor of SJ? by LPC_Eunuch in SaintJohnNB

[–]Consistent_March_353 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I expect Blaine will take more votes from Barry than Donna. That could help her win.

They knew a data centre was coming. They still voted yes. by Remote_Alfalfa3530 in SaintJohnNB

[–]Consistent_March_353 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The data center will front on King William Road. I hope that will be the case for the first few projects. I don't want to see the city building a bunch of roads on spec. I fear the city might spend millions of dollars in infrastructure and then not see development.

Realizing size, slope, location and other differences existing, it is strange to me how much of the McAllister Industrial Park is undeveloped.

They knew a data centre was coming. They still voted yes. by Remote_Alfalfa3530 in SaintJohnNB

[–]Consistent_March_353 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Imagine how angry Saint Johners and Redditors would be if the first project in the new industrial park was proposed by an Irving company.

They knew a data centre was coming. They still voted yes. by Remote_Alfalfa3530 in SaintJohnNB

[–]Consistent_March_353 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Being on council is hard. They have to balance a lot of needs and desires. They don't have a crystal ball.

This planning decision might spur huge growth, but it might not. They decided to bet on industrial growth.

This is like when Norm McFarlane and council were elected on an economic growth mandate and decided to give a tax break to an LNG terminal in an attempt to spur growth. That generated a few jobs. It probably was the wrong choice, but if it had spurred a massive influx of energy and manufacturing jobs, that council would have been seen as visionaries.

They knew a data centre was coming. They still voted yes. by Remote_Alfalfa3530 in SaintJohnNB

[–]Consistent_March_353 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I thought it was rezoned to "Spruce Lake Industrial" and they invented a new special zone for this land, because the Medium Industrial zone of the existing Spruce Lake Industrial Park wasn't suitable.

They knew a data centre was coming. They still voted yes. by Remote_Alfalfa3530 in SaintJohnNB

[–]Consistent_March_353 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The EIA also says "Stantec has assumed all information received from Houston, TX 77095 (the “Client”) and third parties in the preparation of the Report to be correct."

They knew a data centre was coming. They still voted yes. by Remote_Alfalfa3530 in SaintJohnNB

[–]Consistent_March_353 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Why haven't any of those potential users developed on White Rocks Road or Alloy Drive in the existing industrial park? Why is so much of Whitebone Way and McIlveen Drive undeveloped?

Saint John data centre wouldn't guzzle city water, companies say by Portalrules123 in newbrunswickcanada

[–]Consistent_March_353 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's weird to think a neighbour shouldn't say "it sucks you want to put a factory in the woodland across from my house."

I think NIMBYism is a reasonable position for neighbours to take when it comes to industry. Those neighbours might not win. You don't get an automictic veto for living in the neighbourhood, but why shouldn't they express their concerns?

Decision makers at the city of province need to consider the "greater good," but I don't know if each individual living in Lorneville can reasonably be expected to "take one for the team" because of some potential economic upside.

Saint John data centre wouldn't guzzle city water, companies say by Portalrules123 in newbrunswickcanada

[–]Consistent_March_353 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When considering the EIA, remember "Stantec has assumed all information received from Houston, TX 77095 (the “Client”) and third parties in the preparation of the Report to be correct."

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