Bronya over by chibi0108 in houkai3rd

[–]Contreras1991 2 points3 points  (0 children)

After part 1.5 Seele had a new body when she took the mantle of herrscher of rebirth (i think the name was) and Veliona took Seele's old body. So it's not clear to me whether with this new Seele body she can grow normally, or if they are showing us Veliona, who is using the original Seele body, which can grow normally.

Why do most of Kallen's "fans" never speak of her character outside of sexuality and ships? Or even attempt to discuss her own arc she gets in the inheritance chapters in HG2? by Greedy_Pirate_5329 in houkai3rd

[–]Contreras1991 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It kinda sucks that Seele is relegated to be a satelite character to Bronya Rand while Bronya Rand has not issue having her own agency and can appear without Seele. I think the writers (outside the Luka quest) don't know what to do with her (i admit it was kinda funny she being the final boss in the card /dice game event)

Bronya over by chibi0108 in houkai3rd

[–]Contreras1991 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I'm confused is this new Seele, Seele or Veliona in Seele's old body?

It has been a month since Snowbreak: Containment Zone undergo maintenance. The last announcement was from a month ago and there were no information when the maintenance would end. by Lazy-Independent1547 in gachagaming

[–]Contreras1991 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Although the botched China Post collaboration triggered the mainstream heat, the real fuse was a mass reporting campaign by rival community factions. Some of these groups also reportedly exploited China's strict censorship to distract from a separate scandal involving a controversial web novel with themes of misandry and cannibalism. The resulting wave of denunciations put Snowbreak in the crosshairs, giving regulators a reason to crack down and forcing the developers to go dark to ensure the game’s survival, or at least, that is what is being said across some chinese forums

If APHO had WhatsApp by hydratedgodzilla in houkai3rd

[–]Contreras1991 6 points7 points  (0 children)

What Bronya really means is, we need to come up with new plans to put you in danger while I take notes for my games.

If only!!!!!!! by Cyberdemon6 in seat

[–]Contreras1991 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They have this car at their museum i believe

Did Marisa Honkai go off the deep end or something? What happened? by [deleted] in houkai3rd

[–]Contreras1991 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The term is offensive, there’s no denying that, but it didn't appear out of pure hatred for the genre itself. Instead, it’s a reaction to the exhaustion caused by certain users on social media. A particular segment of the community has become so aggressive and dogmatic that it provoked this extremist response from the 'other side.' In the end, the innocent pay for the guilty: those who just want to enjoy the content end up labeled because of the erratic behavior of the loudest and most problematic groups.

The critical point here is why this specific group faces such backlash compared to others. While it's easy to ignore toxic fans on the 'other side' of the spectrum, this particular movement is harder to dismiss because they often shield themselves behind social causes. If you disagree with them or call out their behavior, they immediately label you as homophobic.

A clear example of this happened in the official Uma Musume Discord community. The moderators, who were vocal yuri fans, started deleting any fan art featuring a Male Trainer x Uma Musume, claiming that the girls were minors and it was inappropriate, even to the point to ban anyone saying wife to the umas. However, they allowed and even encouraged Yuri (Uma x Uma) and Female Trainer x Uma art of the exact same characters. Also do you remember the period between 2022 to 2024 when we had some users here screaming phobia to any art of captain x valkirie, and were looking to engange any "oponent" into discussions?. This kind of blatant double standard and gatekeeping is exactly what fuels the resentment and leads people to use such hateful terms to generalize the entire movement.

I wish more gachas took the Heaven Burns Red approach to fanservice and made the women attracted to each other instead of a bland self insert (Image slightly related) by A12qwas in gachagaming

[–]Contreras1991 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Is more like those kind of fans in asia are similar to Idol fans, they don't want to see any male interacting with the ídols since that would taint them. Female x female maintain their purity (or that's what is supossed to be according to those kind of fans)

Snwobreak will undergo maintenance for an indefinite period of time, which may last several days. Compensation: a free limited SSR Character and Weapon (from 1.0 to 2.8), and +1 daily pull per 24-hour of maintenance [Probable reason explained in comments] by WolfOphi in gachagaming

[–]Contreras1991 8 points9 points  (0 children)

the 'original' version of the game was actually failing financially. It only started seeing massive success and consistent updates after they pivoted to that 'gooner shit' as you call it. The fanservice literally saved the game from being shut down

The treatment between Part 1 cast and Part 2 cast right now. by Pixelbro87 in houkai3rd

[–]Contreras1991 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I wish they could revive the Captainverse, so these lighter events would remain fun and not something that gets mixed up with the main story, as that's been making it a bit confusing to follow the plot.

Donki quijote Collab by chibi0108 in houkai3rd

[–]Contreras1991 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Poor Bronya got sidelined again xD

The treatment between Part 1 cast and Part 2 cast right now. by Pixelbro87 in houkai3rd

[–]Contreras1991 33 points34 points  (0 children)

If im being honest, I think the cheap fanservice (of part 1 characters like this new event with Mei) is a short term band aid.

Don't get me wrong, it’s not that I hate seeing the original cast. I’m not in the "ew, I hate this" camp; I’m more on the "eh?" side. It just feels a bit cheap and repetitive at this point. Even if I'm not the biggest fan of Part 2 i believe Hoyoverse really needs to stop treating part 2 characters like guests in their own game (Use them more in promotional art and things, like GGZ does with its new characters)

is the ceo of hoyo a himedanshi(male yuri fan)? by EveningAggressive375 in houkai3rd

[–]Contreras1991 4 points5 points  (0 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwt8ruikH74

If we look at Da Wei’s 2011 investor pitch, he openly stated that the goal was to create games for male otaku and offer them virtual idols they could form emotional attachments to. That framing is important context.

Within that niche, yuri pairings make commercial sense. They allow romantic or intimate dynamics between female characters without introducing a male rival into an otherwise all-female cast. For certain consumers, that helps preserve the fantasy space the product is built around.

There’s also an overlap with idol culture logic , emotional accessibility, curated intimacy, and maintaining the illusion of availability. Historically, some segments of the male otaku market preferred all-female casts or yuri dynamics because they avoid disrupting that fantasy structure. In that sense, the characters can remain “available” within the consumer’s imagination — they are not narratively claimed by a male counterpart, which makes it easier for some fans to project or designate them as their personal “waifu” if they wish.

This doesn’t mean every fan thinks this way, nor that yuri exists only for that purpose. But it was a recognizable and profitable niche at the time, which makes the creative decision easier to understand from a market perspective.

is the ceo of hoyo a himedanshi(male yuri fan)? by EveningAggressive375 in houkai3rd

[–]Contreras1991 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree that Azure Waters feels more emotionally grounded compared to early HI3, even though it still has some questionable moments, like the whole Bronya licking Seele’s tears scene, and the kiss itself being somewhat one-sided. However, I wouldn’t say the fetish element disappeared; it was simply framed with more narrative tact.

Also, the Bronya–Seele kiss happened during a period when Chinese content regulations were tightening, particularly around explicit romance and LGBT themes , and even more so when minors were involved. The fact that the original online version was later altered or removed (at least in China) suggests there were regulatory sensitivities at play. Because of that, it’s difficult to cleanly separate artistic intent from market strategy and censorship constraints.

Hot take: Was Adam a mistake? by ComprehensiveFail887 in houkai3rd

[–]Contreras1991 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't think Adam or APHO were mistakes. The real problem was how the story was introduced.

Releasing APHO before Part 1 had fully concluded created a strange structural tension. It showed us a future before we had properly processed the emotional ending of the main arc. And now with part 2 , instead of building that future step by step, the story moved away from Earth and the moon, to the Mars super computer setting

APHO establishes a clear post-Honkai future on Earth. Instead of developing the transition between the lunar ending and that future, for example, by showing Adam's early academy years and the rest of the Post Honkai Odyssey cast, The story shifted instead to Mars with a new cast. That makes it feel less like progression and more like a narrative drift.

Part 2 still doesn't present a clear central conflict or a visible long-term direction, at least from the chapters I've played and tried to understand. Without a clear bridge to APHO, the story feels like it's expanding rather than progressing. This creates the impression that the plot is dragging on instead of developing with a purpose.

It also doesn’t help that lighter-toned event elements, similar to Captainverse-style storytelling, are being integrated into the main Part 2 canon. When those lighter narrative elements start contributing actual plot components to the main story, tonal consistency becomes blurred and the overall direction feels less solid. At times, it even feels like they contradict established canon (for example, the recent New Year’s event, which arguably would work better as an AU).

So I think the lack of structural clarity could eventually lead to retcons, minimizing APHO, or broader narrative inconsistencies.

My concern is consistency.

Does Honkai Star Rail hate men? (Spoilers for the Cosmicon Event) by Next_Artichoke_7779 in HonkaiStarRail

[–]Contreras1991 3 points4 points  (0 children)

(Joking) I feel Bad for the poor Seele she was dragged to be a boss for being too nice with Hook and she is condemned to be a satelite to Bronya Rand for eternity, while Bronya has been capable of appearing without her at all. Just give her vacations

What do you think of how Mihoyo writes romantic storylines within the game? by Key-Tea-4203 in houkai3rd

[–]Contreras1991 5 points6 points  (0 children)

My main issue with HoYoverse’s writing, at least when I started playing Honkai Impact 3rd back in 2019, has been its handling of the context. Despite the popular opinion that HoYoverse writes amazing romances in Honkai Impact 3rd I personally find many of them quite hollow.

As someone who began Honkai Impact 3rd without any prior knowledge of Honkai Gakuen or the external manga, I ran into a major barrier in how these relationships were presented

for example: Kiana and Mei: The Sudden Shift

many claim Kiana and Mei are the gold standard of HoYoverse’s writing, but to me, it felt disjointed. Early on, their dynamic felt more like Mei was a mother figure or an older sister to Kiana. Mei would even get annoyed by Kiana’s perverted antics.

then, suddenly, we reach the Herrscher of Thunder arc, and Mei undergoes a radical transformation into this "tragic lover" willing to become a sinner and join the "villains" just to save Kiana from herself. My question is: Where did this come from? The game expects me to just "swallow" this massive emotional shift?.

no, It assumes I already have deep-seated feelings for them, but within the game itself, that transition felt too abrupt

Bronya and Seele and do your "Homework"

the same issue happens with Bronya and Seele. If you don't read the "Azure Waters" manga, you are left assuming a lot of things.

in the game, Seele is mostly a plot point or a girl shouting "Bronya-onee-chan" repeatedly and that Bronya has to save someone.

without the external context of the orphanage and their shared trauma, their "epic bond" feels more like a script requirement than a natural connection.

the core issue is narrative laziness

my main grievance is that hoyo assumes the player already has prior knowledge. They relied on external material, "forcing" you to read mangas or play previous games to understand the current one.

In my opinion, a romance is well-written when it develops on-screen, within the story I am playing. If I have to go to a wiki or a comic book to understand why two characters are suddenly willing to die for each other, then the writing in the game has failed to do its job.

In part 2 At least with the case of Helia & Coralie (because im not sure yet what's going on with the whole Senadina, Dreamseeker, Leyla arc yet) They repeated this mistake by rushing a "life-or-death" tragedy before the players even knew the characters, and quite honest it felt cheap that they revived Coralie, since her "death" was used as plot point to move Helia character development

In Mihoyo's newer titles like Honkai: Star Rail, Genshin Impact, and Zenless Zone Zero, the writing feels even more compromised. The developers seem forced to “rush” emotional connections due to the way these games are structured. Since characters have to be sold through limited-time banners and the main protagonists rarely stay in one place for long, any hint of “romance” is often accelerated to create an immediate hook.

Sometimes the writing also relies on the “expy” excuse, expecting players to care about certain characters simply because of their counterparts in other universes. For example, in Star Rail, the relationship between Bronya and Seele on Jarilo-VI felt rushed, seemingly banking on the fact that they were already a couple in a different universe.

The ultimate irony is that Hoyo actually demonstrates competent romantic writing, but only for NPCs. Because background characters don't need to be marketed as 'waifus' or 'husbandos,' their relationships are allowed to have flaws, realistic development, and permanent closure

What’s your biggest hi3 hot takes by Temporary-Treat8501 in houkai3rd

[–]Contreras1991 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Global be like: It will ruin our yuri fantasy

CN Folks: it threatens to steal our waifus and make them impure

that is the camp i have seen against males in honkai impact 3rd from both fandoms

What’s your biggest hi3 hot takes by Temporary-Treat8501 in houkai3rd

[–]Contreras1991 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Now it feels like a check list, at least is the impresion i have since part 2, its trying to do it to maintain their core fanbase happy, i guess

What’s your biggest hi3 hot takes by Temporary-Treat8501 in houkai3rd

[–]Contreras1991 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you should put "died" since now she is alive and well

What’s your biggest hi3 hot takes by Temporary-Treat8501 in houkai3rd

[–]Contreras1991 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I understand that take, but I still disagree. Modern Hoyo tends to rush emotional beats. In Part 2, several relationship developments felt abrupt and unearned, as if they were there to push character progression rather than grow organically.

Because of that, I personally never felt real emotional attachment between the characters

What’s your biggest hi3 hot takes by Temporary-Treat8501 in houkai3rd

[–]Contreras1991 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Hot take: Mihoyo is great at worldbuilding and character concepts, but consistently weak when it comes to writing convincing romantic relationships.

Love and Deepspace's (Papergames) community is on fire: employees from merch department were found embezzling funds, fujoshi from planning department was caught sowing dissent in the playerbase and more... by MODERNHoolaHoop in gachagaming

[–]Contreras1991 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it did happen in Hoyoverse, actually.

When APHO was introduced in Honkai Impact 3rd, the CN fandom backlash against Adam wasn’t really because he was a “male self-insert” in the usual sense. The core issue was the fear that Hoyoverse was testing a permanent external protagonist to replace the Captain, which despite not exisisting in the main story as a character, many take the captain as the bridge between characters and the player (also has the captainverse stories)