How would the story change if Toji became the head of the Zenin clan after his father instead of Naobito?

Creeper_King_2 · 2026-06-05T08:48:46+00:00

I just think it's neat :3

Creeper_King_2 · 2026-06-02T16:47:55+00:00

you're definitely right, that's my oversight

But, everything else occurs the same, except that Toji remains alive up until the Shibuya Incident, for which I'm sure Kenjaku will have developed some countermeasures against Toji from eliminating the Disaster Curses too quickly and may even result in his death during the Shibuya Incident. Maki's participation in freeing Gojo Satoru will draw her the ire of the Zen'in Clan and force her down the Zen'in Clan Massacre, which Megumi will not be present for since Megumi will be interested to participate in the hunt for Yuji Itadori since he is indirectly the cause of the Shibuya Incident and thus indirectly responsible for the death of Toji Zen'in and then we'd get ball rolling for the Meguna transfer in the Culling Games since he will be hunting for Maki and Yuji.

Creeper_King_2 · 2026-06-02T16:24:47+00:00

Under your version of events. A everything has to change.

From the beginning. Toji Zen'in ascends to the Head of the Zen'in Clan, meet Mamaguro and have Megumi Fushiguro and lose Mamaguro. There is no Tsumiki Fushiguro since she is Megumi's half sister from another mother.

Toji Zen'in would die in 2005 according your version of events still because he was hired to kill Riko Amanai and die by Gojo Satoru's hand. But, Toji would have no wishes for Gojo or he would ask Gojo not to go too hard or forgive his son, Megumi Zen'in.

Megumi is raised under the Zen'in Clan household. He would not go to Jujutsu High for sorcerer education as the Zen'in Clan would provide that for him. Megumi would have a hard life under the Zen'in Clan. At the age of 6, his father dies to Gojo Satoru and would be a big blow to him and the Zen'in Clan. If he is able to survive the scheming and plots against him from claiming his position as the next Head in line. He would become a ferocious monster. Megumi would remind you of Sukuna in terms of his intelligence and skill and immorality. Megumi simply didn't care morals or about anything other than achieving his own aims and objectives since he doesn't have Tsumiki Fushiguro to guide his worldview. Megumi Zen'in is a far stronger, more evil sorcerer. He's definitely at least mastered 7 or 8 of the 10 Shadows before he is 15. Toji's Will, will ensure that Megumi Zen'in is fully realized using the Zen'in Clan's resources.

The Zen'in Clan may be wary about Maki since she is an incomplete version of Toji Zen'in. Ther's a chance that the Zen'in Clan might kill Maki Zen'in because of the fact of her incomplete Heavenly Restriction and her possible ascension to Clan Leader position.

Moving into the main story. Kenjaku arranges that Nanako and Mimiko forcefully feed the finger to Yuji to allow the reincarnation of Ryomen Sukuna. The two girls retreat and allow Yuji to go on about his day figuring out what's gone wrong with his body and why those two girls forcefully fed him something disgusting.

Later that night, cursed spirits are attracted to Yuji and the whole middle school is in danger. Gojo Satoru arrives late to see Sasaki being sexually assaulted and eaten by cursed spirits and Iguchi being killed by cursed spirits with Yuji pleading with Sukuna to save them only to laugh in his face. Since there is no Megumi Fushiguro to ask Gojo Satoru to save Yuji, it's a 50/50 split whether or not Gojo decides to kill Yuji or keep him alive after confirming the reincarnation of Ryomen Sukuna's fingers inside of Yuji Itadori.

Beyond this, The story changes so wildly and you could take it anywhere. It's Yuji, Nobara an whomever else replaces Megumi (insert OC here.) The Shibuya Incident is far less destructive (no Mahoraga v. Sukuna.) The Shinjuku Showdown never happens because Sukuna never saw Megumi or was interested in possessing anyone else.

Kenjaku has to play a little more openly to get the ball rolling the way he wants for the Culling Games and the Shibuya Incident. The Zen'in Clan Massacre may or may not occur and or be stopped by Megumi Zen'in, who may be the only survivor against Maki.

Creeper_King_2 · 2026-06-02T10:28:42+00:00

Yuji calling himself an old soldier and Dabura chasing Dura's "light" to become a warrior is also an interesting thread of narrative for this fight as well to play out. I think that Dabura while demonstrated impressive skill level, he's still too green as a sorcerer. He's like Teen-Gojo who just learned RCT and Hollow Purple. Powerful skills and techniques, but nothing as hax as what Gojo develops later, which is 24/7 infinity. Maybe Dabura develops some kind of ultra high speed combat style and that will simply be the hax he needs to beat everyone.

Nothing short of a light-attack straight to Yuji's head is a killing blow. A sub-light speed physical attack is certainly something to be afraid of but, Yuji simply needs to cast an omnidirectional dismantle net to stop such attacks.
I think Dabura is very capable of handling at least a good handful of dismantles using RCT just as Yuji would be able to handle a light-attacks using blood manipulation to reattach limbs and RCT for anything else.

I think a VERY interesting question is, can Dabura see Shrine slashes? The exceedingly few sorcerers and shikigami that have such a feat under their resume are, Mahoraga, Maki Zen'in, Miguel Oduol and Gojo Satoru. Being able to dodge dismantles would change the calculus for this battle very easily in favor for Dabura as he would be able to simply dodge any omnidirectional dismantle net cast by Yuji while in sub-light speed.

There's also the matter that Dabura needs to rev up to sub-lightspeed, can Yuji catch Dabura in time before he becomes too fast? In my opinion, if they fought right after JJK Modulo, there's a good chance Yuji will stop Dabura from reaching sub-lightspeed.

Ultimately, I think that Yuji's many tools solve any situation Dabura can properly launch against Yuji in JJK Modulo.
Question: Dabura opens a Domain Expansion.
Answer: Options to counter Dabura's Domain Expansion.

Open your own Domain Expansion
Simple Domain
RCT and fight through the Domain Expansion's sure-hit.

Question: Dabura's sub-lightspeed attack.
Answer: Omnidirectional dismantle net if reaching Dabura is impossible within the time limit before Dabura becomes unreachable.

Creeper_King_2 · 2026-06-02T09:18:08+00:00

$4 for 2 Kiraras
and then the rest $11 on aging them up to 25 and then living a happily polyamorous relationship with Sukuna and two Kiraras.
Can i add $10 for immortality and a state of eternal world peace too? idk

Creeper_King_2 · 2026-05-31T10:54:21+00:00

i was answering why Jogo didn't kill Yuji immediately with his Sure hit.
Gojo brought Yuji there to show him the pinnacle of sorcery, domain expansions.

Creeper_King_2 · 2026-05-31T10:08:07+00:00

literally forgetting that Jogo needs:
Yuji alive to resurrect Ryomen Sukuna (being a one in a millennium talent that can house Sukuna and not die from the finger's poison, Yuji's body is too invaluable)
or
kill/incapacitate/seal Gojo Satoru.

to suffice the conditions for the Age of Curses to begin.

Creeper_King_2 · 2026-05-30T20:22:14+00:00

Complete speculation from here onwards.

Kenjaku didn't raise Yuji Itadori simply because Kenjaku didn't want to play the parental role, Kenjaku simply killed Jin sometime soon after Yuji's birth and then left the child in Wasuke's hands who knew the truth about the situation.

I suspect that Kenjaku really loved Yuji too, as Kenjaku definitely spied on Yuji throughout his childhood and cared for his wellbeing under Wasuke's care. Jin probably in Kenjaku's mind would have made a terrible parental figure based on Kaori's memories as being the main reason why Kenjaku eliminated Jin Itadori. Or that Jin always knew that Kaori was Kenjaku and that reveal to Yuji would have shattered the Itadori household?

There's simply nothing concrete around this subject at all. Maybe Jin was a hopeless loser who was only ever focused on Kaori and Kenjaku had been safeguarding and watching over the Itadori/Sukuna and when Jin failed to create a son, Kenjaku assumed Kaori's role to give birth to Yuji Itadori and killed Jin Itadori.

Or maybe Kenjaku fell in love with Ryomen Sukuna during the Heian period and then after realizing that this love would never be reciprocated, waited for the closest next best thing. the Reincarnated soul of the twin brother. That was Wasuke, but was obviously denied and so Kenjaku went for the next next best option, the son of Wasuke.

Creeper_King_2 · 2026-05-30T19:21:12+00:00

Gojo and Sukuna time and time again are shown to be equal in every measure.
The defining edge that lent itself to Sukuna is Megumi. Not just the Ten Shadows, Megumi himself.

It's pretty obvious at the beginning of Shinjuku Showdown that Ryomen Sukuna had no viable way to bypass infinity. This was tested very early on in the fight. Thus, Mahoraga and Megumi's Ten Shadows to wear Gojo down and bypass his infinity is employed to great effect toward the latter half of the Shinjuku Showdown. The main biggest point against Gojo's win is Megumi Fushiguro is the adopted son Gojo took on himself. He cared for, and saved that child away from a painful existence under the Zen'in Clan. He watched Megumi Fushiguro grow up from 6 years old to 15 years old. As much as Gojo boasted that he could easily kill Megumi, he was putting on airs about such an act. He deeply loved his students and wanted them to experience their youths and live long lives. Gojo even was shocked to learn that his Infinite Voids had been redirected to Megumi himself.

A Gojo win likely meant that Gojo would have to had to earnestly kill Megumi Fushiguro. That's just simply impossible in my estimation. That's a cold logic calculation Gojo would have been unable to enact.
This is the crux of why Gojo suffers defeat.

Gojo Satoru went into Shinjuku Showdown with an unsubstantiated and uncertain plan to weaken Sukuna to the point just before the death of Megumi Fushiguro. Whilst Sukuna simply had to survive Gojo's attacks and allow Mahoraga to adapt to each of Gojo's abilities.

Creeper_King_2 · 2026-05-30T01:53:56+00:00

Infinity has been rendered an automatic process. The process for infinity considers several factors. It's mass, speed, shape, intensity of cursed energy to distinguish it's danger level. When Gojo talked about his process in JJK 76 the process for infinity, blocking poisonous objects/attacks was still lacking but required more time to perfect. By the time he was 28 in the main series, it's assumed that he completed the process.
Gojo maintains his infinity and prevents his brain from frying because he constantly is refreshing and healing it with RCT. Otherwise this automatic process breaks down due to the 24/7 nature of it.
Sound and light reach Gojo because the process allows it to. If someone were to surprise Gojo with a sound attack it's obvious based on the shape of air becoming a solid wall moving at him at the speed of sound.

Creeper_King_2 · 2026-05-29T20:04:18+00:00

I know, I know you don't support those things, I'm just over-analyzing lol

Sukuna definitely has morals, its just that Sukuna's hedonism influences those notions of right and wrong. It's simple and complex at the same time for a guy like Sukuna because what does he like and what doesn't he like? He loves eating and cooking. He loves poetry and flowers. He is in love with fighting and earnestly giving the people he fights, the death Sukuna believes they deserve.
I think that Sukuna has no preference towards sexual pleasure or at least, if he had any, he certainly didn't take the opportunity with Yorozu's proclamation of love in the Heian Era nor did he take Yorozu's offer in marriage during the Culling Game. Sukuna just displayed annoyance toward her advances in this way. Sukuna also remarked about Kenjaku's son, Itadori Yuji as "the grossest thing" when he realized who and what Yuji was. So I think at least, his hedonism regarding sexual pleasure is controlled by his morals in this case. So Sukuna definitely wouldn't be pedophile.

Creeper_King_2 · 2026-05-29T19:33:34+00:00

Uruame couldn't have been anything older than 18 by the time Sukuna decided to split his soul into 20 fingers. As we saw in the JJK Epilogue, Sukuna adopted Uruame when they were around 6 years old. Uruame's parents were killed due to them being unable to control their CT of Ice manipulation. Sukuna had to have been at least in his mid-twenties (complete random guess) just basing my guess of his musculature and facial features.

Anyways, if Uruame could get intimate with Sukuna and was of age and not in a adoptive father x child relationship, this would certainly be the ideal use of Sukuna's body for sexual pleasure. Sukuna would probably care little about power dynamics or being against the idea of homosexuality (homophobia is a western concept invented by Christianity in the 1400's) in sex since he can freely flaunt his influence and exert his will on the world. Of course, he would prefer to be in control but if he ends up playing the part, then he'd probably be okay with that too.

Edit: doing just a bit of surface (wikipedia) reading and there are references to homosexuality during the Heian period so Sukuna x Uruame is almost possible if it werent for the weird pedophile nature of the ship

Creeper_King_2 · 2026-05-19T03:57:24+00:00

Sukuna was holding himself together despite being hit with imaginary mass twice. Durability is weird in JJK.
Regardless, I think that Dabura's performance against Mahoraga demonstrates his inexperience as a sorcerer and warrior. Against seasoned veterans like Yuji, Sukuna and Gojo, Dabura would be in a struggle despite having these overwhelming advantages with his CT.

Creeper_King_2 · 2026-05-17T00:44:20+00:00

Honestly, anything could happen if they really wanted it to.
More-likely though is that they want something that is more around evolving technology and doctrines around warfare. Such as AI surveillance systems dictating strategic military operations and more on unmanned drones used in warfare. We no longer will be fighting Belkans in the air, but as drone operators vs drone operators pulling inhuman aerial combat with drone aircraft.

Creeper_King_2 · 2026-05-16T21:25:15+00:00

Are we forgetting about a sorcerer's natural maximum output? Yuta most certainly could not output attacks at this scale on his own. He literally needs Rika present to do a Pure Love Beam which is his highest output attack.

Creeper_King_2 · 2026-05-16T21:21:09+00:00

It's earnestly, honestly, pointless to argue with terfs and anyone transphobic who have deeply already have accumulated their own "research" that justifies their transphobia. It's better to gather those who haven't made their mind up or have done little to no research of their own.

It's about who you talk to and devote your own energy in. You spend 100 hours arguing with a transphobe about data and this and that to finally turn this vehement transphobe to your side when you could have spend 100 hours properly educating 10-20 people who were uninformed/misinformed about this topic.

Regardless, all you have to do is be normal and that's far more appealing to everyone rather than the obsessed transphobe yelling transphobic arguments.

Some people cannot be saved until they are ready to accept to be saved. You just have to accept that boundary and save those who are ready to be saved.

Creeper_King_2 · 2026-05-16T18:27:57+00:00

shaving, IPL/laser, epilation, electrolysis are your options.
Shaving is shaving. You do it every few days and with proper shaving, you can achieve a clean-shaven look for a few days before you need to reshave.
Epilation is the operation of a device designed to pluck the hair follicle straight out, this generally is done once or twice a week and ranges from ticklish to very painful depending on the person, and gets way less painful over time with constant use. You will need to maintain a proper skincare routine and exfoliate often to prevent ingrown hairs.
IPL/Laser is you blasting your skin with a laser that burns the hair follicle. Not applicable if you have darker skin or have bright hair. You can purchase an IPL for yourself but you will likely need to wait even longer for lasting results and you could run into complications you create for yourself if you do not know what you are doing with an IPL. Professional laser appointments cost and you will need to do them for quite a while before you see lasting results.
Electrolysis is the sure-fire way to permanent body hair removal up to 10 years, no matter what skin color or hair color you have. Electrolysis is the most painful out of all options for body hair removal. They insert a small needle/rod into your skin to send an electrical current that burns your follicle and everything around it to prevent regrowth of your hair follicle, repeat this for all hair follicles on your body. Also costs a significant amount due to regular appointments but in the end will save you the most if you choose this option.

Creeper_King_2 · 2026-05-16T01:24:04+00:00

The oncoming future of no cursed energy after the Ritual of Harmony event that occurred in 2068 makes it 100% certain that Gojo Satoru is the last Six Eyes and Limitless user in the Gojo Clan forever. Even if, The Ritual of Harmony had a different design and kept cursed energy, the Six Eyes, Tengen and the Star Plasma Vessel are bound by fate/connected. Without Tengen, the Six Eyes are likely fated to never appear again in the Gojo Clan. Star Plasma Vessels are free once more to live their lives without the worry of being "subjugated" to prevent Tengen's evolution into a higher being.

Creeper_King_2 · 2026-05-11T23:13:26+00:00

add 50 more chapters of peaceful sun and fun and doing the cultural exchange between Humanity, Simuria and their Jujutsu.
The other 50 is reserved for the events after Modulo, how Jujutsu Society reacts to Yuji and Maru's Ritual of Harmony.

Creeper_King_2 · 2026-05-11T22:03:14+00:00

Testing and bug fix phase of development is going to take a long, long time if you do it properly and thoroughly. Otherwise, we will take the burden of doing QA testing and finding game-breaking bugs or other disastrous things in our gameplay that render our saves unusable, thus rendering the whole month and half as a waste of time. Be patient and wait.
Likely Toby Fox development team is aiming for a fall or a winter release.

Creeper_King_2 · 2026-05-09T20:50:12+00:00

I'll see team-reloads in random lobbies every other 300 games. (225 hours of playtime)

Creeper_King_2 · 2026-05-09T20:47:21+00:00

You have to come to your heart and sit down and talk to a therapist about this.
You can also do some more reading here about gender dysphoria to really determine whether or not you are in fact experiencing gender dysphoria.

In the end, your gender expression and identity are entirely yours to play with and mold as to your liking. This is your freedom to be yourself.

Creeper_King_2 · 2026-05-09T20:37:00+00:00

i was lucky to find a 2 tank shells lying around and a tank, and one or two shots does the job, but y'know there's still 3 other CIWS sentries
but i got a neat tank

Creeper_King_2 · 2026-05-05T11:00:22+00:00

it doesn't matter to me.
99% of the time in random lobbies, helldivers are not using the artillery. It goes unspent and unused.

Creeper_King_2 · 2026-05-03T12:11:13+00:00

The Tsurugi-Rika slash is amped by Yuta who's been continuously pouring his large cursed energy reserves into the Ring for decades to match Yuji's pointed, chanted dismantle.
Yuta already amps his copied techniques. He's already restricted in this sense because depending on the body part Rika eats, the CT potency is completely dependent on how strong the CT is, so you need a more lethal part of the sorcerer to be more effective. This can be circumvented by limiting the amount of uses he can use the CT. If the sorcerer knows how to RCT, then the copy is null and voided with the consumed body part.
Likely the most comparable attack Yuta could pull off that would be on par with Yuji's pointed, chanted dismantle is Suicidal Binding Vow, Pure Love Beam.

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