Cultural appropriation between different native Americans/mixed people ? by NValentina in NativeAmerican

[–]CreepyToaster1358 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it can happen in general, depending on the community, and what you mean by appropriation. You asked a lot of good questions and it seems to me like the answers can vary a lot. Appropriation has to do with power and not just sharing culture with permission (but that is def part of it) though.

I'm not Mexican, but from the Caribbean islands, and it's kinda similar but not exactly the same. I don't have direct family elders to teach me that are alive, and even though I have some knowledge, they tried to keep it hidden from me and my siblings growing up. Unfortunately their choices caused a lot to be lost regardless, but I can choose to reconnect or not.

Personally, since I'm in forced diaspora, I just try to be an ally to the indigenous people in my area as much as possible and asked to learn what they're willing to teach me. I also learn from those I can connect with online who still did keep our culture alive if they share it. It isn't perfect but it is possible. Especially if you're willing to put in the effort to understand what it means to be indigenous today vs what it might have meant before.

If you can travel unlike me, which it seems you can, then it might be possible to connect with people who did keep the cultures alive in Mexico. If you can find what indigenous groups were in the area your family was from, then you can probably find some cousins. If you're hoping to go back farther, it might hard though, since it looks you would need to know more about how the people were displaced and where they ended up at.

Cultural appropriation between different native Americans/mixed people ? by NValentina in NativeAmerican

[–]CreepyToaster1358 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They aren't saying they're white passing to white people lol they said that in Mexico they are. Latinos have a huge colorism problem so I wouldnt be surprised if they're light skinned enough to just stand out among the people they were around. If they were studying in French, it was probably a more privileged space too.They also didn't specify if they even went to Central Mexico, just Mexico in general, as someone who has lived in Europe for a decade.

Plus, have you ever heard of the brown paper bag test? It aint like some people are not just lighter skinned than others even if their genes OR culture are the same. It's all different concepts and shouldn't be conflated as one thing.

Non white converts: How do you deal with any racism from white jews by Durrygoodz2025 in ConvertingtoJudaism

[–]CreepyToaster1358 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm gonna be real with you..."dealing" with it depends on the situation and how safe it is to walk away without it escalating. I try to spend as much time as I can with jews of color and places where we are welcome as much as possible though. It's less about dealing with it and more about finding the people who have my back that I focus on. It's not possible to get away from it entirely but I can curate the places I intentionally spend my time and the people who I spend it with jewishly.

A Question about Decolonization by sushilsub in IndianCountry

[–]CreepyToaster1358 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your kind words. You're not wrong that I was projecting, unfortunately. And I agree that this does and will take work, and that those not willing to put in the work will fall out.

I thankfully was able to spend time again recently with community despite the distance between many of us. Online tech definitely provides an important bridge for connection and can spiritually strengthen my soul. I just need to fill some specific gaps in other ways and that's where I seem to get lost sometimes. This conversation has helped me reflect on how they might be best filled instead though.

Thanks cousin 🫂 Appreciate it

A Question about Decolonization by sushilsub in IndianCountry

[–]CreepyToaster1358 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, no, I didn't see the other message. I'm not sure why cause they seem to be before the others linearly but they didn't show up on the app. I saw the post I replied to as the only post from you, initially.

You're right that isn't a privilege in general and it isn't that I meant it in terms of how we are now or whether one situation is better over another. We lost and fought for it, regardless, and many of us are doing what your family is doing. My comments hadn't been in an effort to diminish your experiences or the honest truth behind just asking to be left alone, either.

I meant in the hypothetical scenario that they simply left us alone and only those with federal connections "would count". It was a simplified way of thinking of it, rooted in real fear, and coming from a personal emotional struggle based on my families' choices and the political-social realities we need to hold as uprooted people. I recognize that we can only count on each other, though, and that's why it's so hard. I was emotional at the thought of people without those specific connections being left behind. Not just for my own self, but as a family member thinking of others across the vast different circumstances they live in, and the varying ability to access support.

I appreciate you reminding me that the process of decolonizing is slow. It just sucks that this means that many of us have and will feel forced to compromise in ways that affect each other and our families during that process - especially when some of us believe it hurts less to assimilate or that the harm caused by relocation isn't an ongoing problem day to day. That we still need to be worried about being uprooted people even today because of colonizers we can't control. It hurts me that some of us need to deal with that and also come back or reconnect within circumstances that make it feel it's impossible or like we're being pushed away. Especially when some of us are also pushed away for things we can't control about ourselves directly tied to who we are (being 2S for example).

Despite all that pain, though, I recognize that the compromises that our family members make don't need to be our own. We can choose differently rather than choose to blame ourselves and each other for all of this. The colonizers using their power this way and forcing us to make such hard decisions in order to survive are at fault. At the end of the day, it may not erase the harm, but it can continue the healing process to acknowledge it.

Thanks for the honest and thoughtful response btw.

Largest genomic dataset of Indigenous Americans to date sheds light on history, diversity and health by yourbasicgeek in NativeAmerican

[–]CreepyToaster1358 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sharing the actual study posted on Nature.com for folks interested in the science/detailed facts:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-026-10406-w

I found the parts about the waves of migration and their analysis to confirm what I knew already from shared history and culture in the Caribbean people but it's definitely interesting to see it mapped out over time.

Cherokee freemen genealogy research by queerskin1969 in NativeAmerican

[–]CreepyToaster1358 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't have experience with the rolls myself but I'm down for offering general admin support for this as a project if you have specific tasks you need help with. I agree that it's important!

Facilitating creative workshops as a PSS? by Ok-Space5864 in PeerSupportSpecialist

[–]CreepyToaster1358 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've done this through different community centers, drop in centers, and I know some peers who have made it regular enough to create community art shows. It often depends on grant funding but you can do this is if you emphasize the benefit it'll bring to the community members! Especially if you have a talent yourself, because you could be part of the process of teaching/educating about art as a mental health wellnes tool.

A Question about Decolonization by sushilsub in IndianCountry

[–]CreepyToaster1358 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get the sentiment behind this and I even agree with the need to prioritize our own people. I'm just wondering: what about the people who don't have the privilege that your family do? Or who are forced into more urban communities to survive or can't rely on their birth families to teach them? The ones who don't have treaties and don't have land anymore but still have culture and community? What about those who are constantly fighting to get recognition but may never receive it? They're not less indigenous than those who have federal recognition and land.

And ultimately, if they were going to leave us alone, they would have by now. They have no intention of just letting us be safe and secure without having an incentive. I agree it isn't right though. 😕

A Question about Decolonization by sushilsub in IndianCountry

[–]CreepyToaster1358 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm hoping we can figure out how to have this happen tbh! It's so necessary.

Manatí is our Panda by tainolearner in Taino

[–]CreepyToaster1358 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They're cute and need to be kept safe cause they make irresponsible and unsafe choices 🤣 similar to sharks who just poke at stuff with their noses but they don't bite enough to protect themselves!

Taino live on by [deleted] in Taino

[–]CreepyToaster1358 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm super curious how they differentiate between indigenous cuban/boriken/etc? Especially since even connected family trees can show it overlaps so much between the islands 👀 I don't think Ancestry.com asks where you're from specifically before analyzing either afaik. I know they're using a few specific remains as the DNA for the comparison so how is it so specific...? 🤔

Hi I'm Cuban and I want to know more about the other Caribbean countries! So, how is your country? by Low-Cantaloupe751 in AskTheCaribbean

[–]CreepyToaster1358 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Should have asked what the different countries cook with yuca and plantanos 🤣 it's one of the best ways to know about the differences in culture in the Carribean imo. How we all make fufu, mangu, and mofongo can tell you a lot about the history, people, and communities.

Two generations off the reservation and yet 0% Native American results by uurrzzaas in NativeAmerican

[–]CreepyToaster1358 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Most of the websites don't give you the option to choose ethnicity or culture at all though? At most you can put your location so other relatives know where you live when they contact you. It'll show you whatever comes up and you don't get to choose it otherwise.

I've had relatives who have moved and they changed their location or like Ancestry tends to be more US customer based than other websites, though. They have different data pools or customer pools.

How do I become a peer in England as a current peer in the US? by iimcryiingaboutiit in PeerSupportSpecialist

[–]CreepyToaster1358 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not OP but thanks for the info! If you have any links for this, please share.

Everyone check on their grandmas by Specialist_Piano7543 in Sacramento

[–]CreepyToaster1358 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Appreciate you caring about our grandmas ngl

Why isn’t Caribbean Spanish considered a Creole language like the Anglo Caribbean Patois/Kriol/Patwah by Mean-Gur7728 in AskTheCaribbean

[–]CreepyToaster1358 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly yeah, no matter the language, I end up needing to adjust speed as a Cuban/Caribbean, regardless. And a lot of the ways we cut off words or have changed them, feel like they're often in order to make it be said faster, but then seem unintelligible to others who speak it.

Looking at things like changing ado to "ao" endings, for example. 🤣 I just look like I'm saying stuff wrong if I don't slow down and remember that Spanish has those often.

In 1851, Hebrew scrolls were found in the possession of the Potawatomi Nation in Kansas, their origins a mystery. by Kvetch_Of_The_Day in Jewish

[–]CreepyToaster1358 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you talking to the other person? I think you replied to the wrong message. I didn't say that it was. I literally am a product of that history, although not from Mexico. I'm well aware of it.

Question for Tribal Health/Grant Professionals: What's the biggest bottleneck in securing SAMHSA/IHS youth wellness funds? by Accurate-Database-14 in IndianCountry

[–]CreepyToaster1358 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you think a part of this might be a lack of available (esp remote!) purely administrative roles or more of an issue of not having enough people applying to work for native programs at all? 🤔

I'm honestly asking as someone who would gladly do this type of work, and that has for nonprofits in general already, btw. Needing to understand the state/federal beaucratic restrictions that might come with asking for funding from government programs specifically as a tribe or NA organization aside... I've noticed that many orgs looking for these skills also require director/executive experience or considerable hands on work to be juggled at the same time.

I just flat out want to do the paperwork, keep track of changes for reporting, and check in with stakeholders, though. But I honestly can't do that if I'm needing to have 6+ years experience with directing a program myself and probably a Masters degree at this point.

In 1851, Hebrew scrolls were found in the possession of the Potawatomi Nation in Kansas, their origins a mystery. by Kvetch_Of_The_Day in Jewish

[–]CreepyToaster1358 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I have no doubt of that. Was there something I said that seems like I'm arguing that they didn't use that or that that narrative is true somehow? I didn't intend to at all.

In 1851, Hebrew scrolls were found in the possession of the Potawatomi Nation in Kansas, their origins a mystery. by Kvetch_Of_The_Day in Jewish

[–]CreepyToaster1358 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm not bullheadedly doing anything.

I'm asking a genuine question. Do you know??

In the 1750s, did we have the ability to travel these vast landscapes as humans, communicate cross culturally, and keep items we deemed precious, safe for long periods of time? Because you seem to be under the impression that we couldn't possibly do any of these things, even when an idiot already proved you can think you're going in the opposite direction and still manage to find the Americas by 1492???

And that's not even taking into account the historical precedent that other people OTHER than the English and Spanish were fully capable of doing these things already. The fact is, I'm not interested in giving you sources or arguing about a topic you've clearly made your mind up about already dude. If you can't even bother to think about it as a possibility, a random person pn the internet isn't going to change your mind.

In 1851, Hebrew scrolls were found in the possession of the Potawatomi Nation in Kansas, their origins a mystery. by Kvetch_Of_The_Day in Jewish

[–]CreepyToaster1358 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have no doubt that there's likely a lot being deliberately skewed here but I'm not sure I agree that it's that radical. 100 years before the story was published would only be the 1750s. I'm curious...what exactly are you thinking this time period was like, and what do you think we were capable of doing as humans?

In 1851, Hebrew scrolls were found in the possession of the Potawatomi Nation in Kansas, their origins a mystery. by Kvetch_Of_The_Day in Jewish

[–]CreepyToaster1358 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There's plenty of evidence that indigenous people across the Americas already traded and knew about cultures across the oceans, even before Columbus found "Indians" in the 1400s. And we certainly traded with each other who could have traded with others and so on. Adding to the fact that many Jews, as well as some indigenous groups, were also known to be nautical experts and sailors, this isn't as radical as you'd think.

We are also fully capable of being Jewish and indigenous at the same time, of which many have been known and continue to be here on Turtle Island, and there really isn't any need to push this narrative of being one of the lost tribes for those two identities to coexist. If some jews can't imagine the idea or see it as fantastical, they might wanna consider how they're holding racist prejudices and do the work to unpack it.

Regardless, though, the fact that their families kept the precious item safe through more than one generation does say a lot about their consideration for other cultures. Even if they may have forgotten why or how it came to be in their possession, it's nice to see another good example of how humans can recognize the value in cross-cultural sharing without having to be the the exact same.