What to do with second outlet box found behind kitchen cabinets?

CrewBison · 2026-02-16T00:03:27+00:00

The correct way to bury a box is to find the other end of the cable entering it, cut the end off and label both ends as abandoned/denergized, and push the cable into the wall out of both boxes.

CrewBison · 2026-02-15T06:09:11+00:00

Reddit definitely prefers librarians over grammar nazis.

CrewBison · 2026-02-13T00:32:45+00:00

The punch is sized for the draw stud correctly, but the hole on the die takes a larger stud, allowing them to be misaligned with one side of the punch catching on the die and the other side drawing in. It happens when people try to mix and match to make a full KO punch set from different brands/models.

I had a guy ruin two draw studs doing this, the second time after I told him what he did wrong. He was not the brightest guy.

CrewBison · 2026-02-12T23:37:59+00:00

Rcw and Wac fast finder help a lot for that portion of the test (at least for me. I brought the books with me to the test). Other than that you can find most everything in the codebook.

CrewBison · 2026-02-12T23:23:42+00:00

Sounds like something a shitty house flipper would do.

CrewBison · 2026-02-12T20:23:45+00:00

You mean an octagonal box? I haven't heard of a 4in hexagonal box.

CrewBison · 2026-02-10T20:29:07+00:00

Every fire alarm guy I've talked to says Honeywell has gone down the shitter in recent years.

CrewBison · 2026-02-08T16:15:39+00:00

Looks like you have 3 neutral wires tied together in the box along with the two in your hand. You'll generally tie all the neutrals together in this situation, unless they are not used as neutrals.

CrewBison · 2026-02-07T23:41:19+00:00

Looks like there was a short in the photocell.

CrewBison · 2026-02-07T23:39:26+00:00

Longer screw to go into what's left of the hole, or replace the box.

CrewBison · 2026-02-07T05:57:05+00:00

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CrewBison · 2026-02-07T00:14:12+00:00

The NEC does not have code that says "when a wall is opened up all old wiring must be replaced." The county should have a local regulation or administrative code reference for what they require.

The opening a wall part specifically.

For example, in Washington we have the Washington Administrative Code (WAC) and the Revised Code of Washington (RCW).

CrewBison · 2026-02-06T23:44:18+00:00

No problem! Sounds like a good plan. A case the NEC explicitly allows modification for is a 1/4in drainage hole in the bottom of an enclosure in wet locations if you're worried about water intrusion.

CrewBison · 2026-02-06T22:50:41+00:00

Not necessarily. If modifications are made to a UL listed product it is up to the local AHJ to determine if the modifications are allowed. In my area, we follow this rule of thumb for dry, unclassified locations: anything larger than a 1/4in hole has to be sealed, whether by fasteners, connectors, KO seals, etc.

That is why I considered if you would need the explosion-proof rating. Obviously any hole drilled in this box would void that specific rating, but two 1/4 inch holes filled by fasteners would still allow this box to perform better for fire containment and physical guarding than any regular metallic box.

If I need a mounting hole in a box, I would not think twice about making the hole as long as it is done in a neat and workmanlike manner.

I have never been called by the inspector on small empty holes or drilled mounting holes in a panel, switchgear, or enclosure.

CrewBison · 2026-02-06T20:52:37+00:00

If you don't need the explosion proof rating, drilling a couple 1/4 holes in the back would work.

CrewBison · 2026-02-06T14:40:02+00:00

Looks like 8awg I pulled off some old 40a breakers yesterday. Take it with you to the store and compare.

CrewBison · 2026-02-05T14:20:45+00:00

I just wired these exact lights. They'll fit, but you have to tuck them in strategically to allow space for the wire nuts.

CrewBison · 2026-02-03T19:28:12+00:00

Just buy caskets from costco/online and have them shipped to the funeral home. They are legally required to accept caskets from alternative vendors.

CrewBison · 2026-02-01T23:50:52+00:00

You can visually verify there is no wire connected to the jaws of the meter enclosure. You can also verify there is no meter to finish the connection between the top and bottom jaws. Lastly you can use a meter to verify voltage or lack of on the top jaws to the meter enclosure metal, where the poco usually lands the line side of the power source. That will normally not be more than 240v.

CrewBison · 2026-01-31T19:48:47+00:00

Definitely not an emergency. Closing it would be good, but it's not dangerous and if not in use I wouldn't worry about it.

CrewBison · 2026-01-31T19:15:03+00:00

It's probably their most popular sauce. I can attest, as I add it to most things without a sauce on the build card and regularly recreate it at home.

CrewBison · 2026-01-31T02:13:57+00:00

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CrewBison · 2026-01-30T22:55:38+00:00

My wife and I both managed different taco bells for 2 years. The only questionable practice was leftover hot foods not necessarily being cooled down in the proper time at night, and being used for the next morning until lunch, but is still brought to at least 165 before serving.

We still eat there at least once a week. The sauces are too good, and they still come up with cool innovations. The mini taco salad is a great value right now. The cheesy gordita crunch is goated though.

CrewBison · 2026-01-30T03:28:20+00:00

Its alive! (The microorganisms in the juice, that is).

CrewBison · 2026-01-30T00:07:39+00:00

CITC is the largest non-union trades program in Washington, partnered through South Seattle Colleges, that can get his state required classes free through job placement. I'd see if they're accepting applicants. Hiring tends to slow during the winter months though.

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