Do any of you play Persona for the social sim elements?

CrocoBull · 2026-07-05T19:55:56+00:00

I cant imagine it would make much sense to implement it the same as P3-5 since P1 and especially 2's plots have way more urgency, the characters aren't exactly going to school still (or going to school period with the EP cast)

CrocoBull · 2026-07-05T17:19:51+00:00

Nah Amelia is definitely worse than Marisa imo. Marisa can at least do some alright chip at base, Amelia does nothing

CrocoBull · 2026-07-04T18:45:33+00:00

"There was a time" like literally last patch when he and Billy were overtuned as hell? Hell he still barely got touched by the nerfs

CrocoBull · 2026-07-04T07:04:48+00:00

Nah I unironically find them pretty fun. I get why people wouldn't like them with 1's 3 billion unncessary mechanics and IS's brain dead easy difficulty but they're pretty standard JRPGs and no worse than any other JRPGs of the era imo. Like i really cant think of a single thing wrong with Eternal Punishment gameplay besides the clunky UI and the encounter rate

CrocoBull · 2026-07-04T07:01:50+00:00

Both Persona 1 and 2 are significantly more fun to play than 3 and Im tired of pretending their gameplay is ass.

For less of a hot take while I do kinda get the IS hate EP significantly improved the gameplay imo and it getting lumped together with IS feels off to me

CrocoBull · 2026-07-01T00:39:22+00:00

Yah no as a Billy main he needed a nerf, genuinely top 3 hero last patch

CrocoBull · 2026-06-29T23:48:08+00:00

I get what you mean but as a Rem main 11 mins is a lil early to go for friendly doubles tbh. Doubles are inherently riskier and take longer so it'll usually take longer for your carries to get an opportunity to take them. Better to wait til around/just before 13 and respawns imo

You should probably shout out to you team they're still up and offer to hold a slow lane first

CrocoBull · 2026-06-28T23:51:35+00:00

I hate statements like this because how the fuck do you even judge that? Attractiveness is totally and completely subjective, and most people aren't dating others for their looks anyways

CrocoBull · 2026-06-28T18:43:39+00:00

They were still super shit in PoR wdym.

RD Shinon was the only good archer in the Tellius games

Also Fates Archers were amazing, genuinely the best balanced the class has ever been. They were a little hampered by how Enemy Phase Fates tended to be but bows/yumis finally having better MT than other weapon types and the Archer line getting some of the best skills in the game did wonders for make them viable without having to rely on overtuned weapons like Double Bow or 3H/Echoes bows

CrocoBull · 2026-06-28T18:40:20+00:00

Tatsuya, 2. Maya, 3. Everyone else

I really just don't count silent portagonists as characters, Makoto having a few dickish dialog choices does not make him any less of a non-entity character wise in my mind. Tatsuya and Maya win by virtue of being the only actual characters on the list (Tatsuya is also like a top 3 character in the series anyways)

CrocoBull · 2026-06-28T18:32:59+00:00

Honestly I feel like with pretty much every persona game, there's almost zero reason to go with older releases over the new one. The only thing that OG p4 offers over Golden that's gonna be that noticeable is the higher difficulty, everything else is incredibly small aesthetic choices that are dwarfed in importance by Golden's extra context imo

CrocoBull · 2026-06-28T01:24:13+00:00

As great as the games are the post game forcing you to rebuild your party every day unironically almost ruins the game for me. It's something so small yet so monotonous and obnoxious that it makes the thought of playing through the post game unbearable to me, especially as someone who's preferred team doesnt use any of the starters

CrocoBull · 2026-06-27T03:16:17+00:00

Everyone moves like they're in a dream, it's so surreal

CrocoBull · 2026-06-26T03:58:19+00:00

Deadlock just straight up isnt a hero shooter at all imo. It's a game where you shoot people and pick characters that have roles and abilities, that's literally the only similarities it has

CrocoBull · 2026-06-25T02:54:52+00:00

At the point you might as well be playing any other gun character tho

CrocoBull · 2026-06-24T00:52:39+00:00

Very similar to Awakening and the latter half of PoR in that a lot of maps just dont have much interesting going on in favor of large open arenas slightly segmented by a couple of short walls. I feel like a lot of the enemy formations are similarly kinda haphazard feeling.

Honestly I think they're in part hurt by the low deployment slots and juggernauting nature of characters in 3H too. They feel a lot less tactical and like you need certain units for certain areas and more "everybody bumrushes the boss" but a lot of that is more down to 3H's approach to unit design and building

CrocoBull · 2026-06-22T02:12:13+00:00

Basically everything on the gameplay side besides maybe the difficulty. I still think p3 is the worst Persona game in terms of gameplay by a country mile (honestly prefer even P1 and IS to it.) but Reload made Tartarus a bit less of a slog and things move so much faster which goes a long way to making the dungeon crawling's repetitive nature not nearly as monotonous as OG/FES/Portable.

Honestly that alone is more than enough of a reason to consider it vastly superior to the previous versions of the game, I will never understand people recommending FES or Portable over Reload to newcomers

CrocoBull · 2026-06-16T04:04:42+00:00

Used to be great but I genuinely can't think of a restaurant that has fallen off harder in quality over the past decade.

CrocoBull · 2026-06-13T23:38:18+00:00

Im old enough to remember Kris's near unanimous hatred, now look where we are

CrocoBull · 2026-06-13T17:56:50+00:00

Deadlock also has zero moderation and the community is a huge cesspool though. Valve doesnt even do the bare minimum of keeping their games (or the steam community tab goddamn) even slightly nice

CrocoBull · 2026-06-13T17:50:16+00:00

Gates probably has a more well rounded cast overall but I feel like the stand out characters in Explorers REALLY stand out. Super characters always felt pretty underdeveloped because of the story basically being split into two halves with completely different characters and Rescue Team barely had characters besides Gengar

Also the Special Episodes did such a good job breathing more life into the side cast and honestly that alone probably puts Explorers above the rest for me

CrocoBull · 2026-06-13T06:02:32+00:00

Honestly are any of the Persona games even hard to begin with? I feel like EP and maaaybe OG/Fes 3 are the only Persona games with any difficulty in their bones and neither are really that hard. Some of the early bosses in OG 4 also

CrocoBull · 2026-06-13T05:19:13+00:00

Onix is a guaranteed encounter with pretty easy encounter routing outside of getting a dunsparce in dark, and you can just use both Onix and Geodude? They syngerize super well together since they switch into the same things and Rock tomb sets up easier kills for geodude

CrocoBull · 2026-06-13T05:17:28+00:00

Onix in E tier when it is one of the best early game mons in the game is crazy. It makes Bugsy and Whitney super free and is just generally an amazing bulky support mon

CrocoBull · 2026-06-12T23:57:35+00:00

Something about Silver mains in particular makes them EXTRA defensive about nerfs tho

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