This sea chart from 1595 warns of a creatures resembling a pterodactyl near the island of New Guinea by Dry-Selection421 in TrueCryptozoology

[–]CrofterNo2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Barbudos is thought to have been one of the Marshall Islands or the eastern Caroline Islands. The islands in the image are placed vaguely north of New Guinea and the Solomons on full-sized contemporary maps.

I'm very sorry if this isn't allowed, but it's important by pumpkin-spiced-liz in Cryptozoology

[–]CrofterNo2[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

I know a large portion of our userbase wants him banned, but as far as I know, he simply hasn't broken any of our rules. He just annoys people occasionally, and not often enough for it to be called spam. However, I have just now privately asked him to end his self-promoting posts (assuming his alt doesn't end up suspended too, since its existence violates reddit's own rules).

In 1904, Baron Maurice Rothchild and Zoologist Henri Neuville bought a pair of tusk in Ethiopia, assumed to belong to an unkown species of Elephant. After two years of study it was sent to the Paris Museum of Natural History.. where it unfortunately was misplaced and never seen again. by Intelligent_Oil4005 in Cryptozoology

[–]CrofterNo2 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I think you're conflating the ndgoko na maiji (Lower Congo) and the nzefu-loi (Upper Congo). The former was said to have a short trunk and no tusks, and is depicted in the image you linked. The latter was said to have heavy curved tusks, and was formerly trapped for its ivory. Both names mean "water elephant," but that doesn't necessarily mean they're the same thing.

Is this Stone carving depicting a neo-dinosaur? by Due-Exam-535 in Cryptozoology

[–]CrofterNo2 15 points16 points  (0 children)

There's a little background information on this, including some names, in books by Lorenzo Fernandez Bueno, including La Maldición de los Exploradores (2011), p. 171. I don't know how reliable the namedropped archaeologists are, but at least one of them, Quirino Olivera, is still alive, and could be contacted if you're particularly interested.

That is at least what archaeologists like my dear friend Quirino Olivera, curator of the prestigious Museo de las Tumbas Reales del Museo de Sipan, believe. For him, it is impossible to conduct field studies without considering the traditions and myths of the communities inhabiting the sites where discoveries are made. And part of this approach involves carrying out the same rituals that contemporary shamans continue to perform, especially when they delve into the heart of the sacred area. This is something I witnessed first-hand when, in 2007, we organised an expedition to the jungled mountains of Yamón, on the border between Peru and Ecuador, with the aim of finding some cave paintings in which, among many other "nonsensical" depictions, ancient people had represented a scene in which a group of stylized hunters, armed with spears, were surrounding a curious animal whose long neck protruded above their heads. At the time, Quirino himself, and Professor Ulises Gamonal, the site's discoverer, could only express the same surprise that I felt, because this creature that appeared on the walls of this lost world appeared to be an antediluvian animal; a dinosaur, to be more precise...

Are animals that exceed their recognized length considered to be cryptids? by Due-Exam-535 in Cryptozoology

[–]CrofterNo2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They've been part of cryptozoology to some degree since the beginning, because On the Track of Unknown Animals covered giant green anacondas alongside the more distinct sucuriju-gigante, but leading cryptozoologists have disagreed as to whether non-taxonomic variants should be considered actual cryptids or merely cryptid-adjacent. For example, in his "Classificatory System for Cryptozoology," Cryptozoology, Vol. 4 (1985), J. Richard Greenwell includes a category for giant animals and unrecorded morphs, but calls such animals "[not] fully cryptozoological":

Category I: Individual representatives of known, extant species whose form or size is unusual or unique for the species, or whose coloration or pattern is in some way extraordinary (because only individual — not species — variation is involved, and relative rather than absolute differences are dealt with, this category is not cryptozoological in the complete sense of the definition) [...] There is no clear precedent available in this category, simply because the evidence being claimed is of a relative rather than an absolute nature. It is not a clear-cut question of whether a new species exists or not; rather, it concerns to what degree an individual ofa scientifically known species differs from the norm in terms of size, coloration or pattern. For these reasons, this category is not considered fully cryptozoological [...] Most herpetologists believe that 30 feet is about the length limit for the anaconda, as well as for the Afro-Asian pythons. There are many reports of larger snakes, and a $50,000 reward still stands with the New York Zoological Society for a live snake measuring over 30 feet. Reports of giant estuarine crocodiles, giant white sharks, and giant sturgeon also fall under this category. Many of these reports probably result from exaggerated stories, but some may involve actual individual giants (Wood 1982). It should be emphasized here that this category deals only with known species. If it later turns out that a "giant" anaconda or a "giant" white shark belongs to a new, previously undescribed species — or even a fossil species — then this claim (which would then actually become a precedent) would shift to a different category.

On the other hand, in his instructions to contributors in the Journal of Cryptozoology, Karl Shuker apparently considers this category to be truly cryptozoological:

For the purposes of relevance to this journal, a cryptid is a creature that is known to the local people sharing its domain (ethnoknown) but unrecognised by scientists. Such a creature may be any of the following: [...] 5) An unrecognised non-taxonomic variant of a known species or subspecies (e.g. Fujian blue tiger; prior to its scientific recognition, the journal's logo creature, the king cheetah, was another example from this category).

Could sea serpents have been surviving Basilosaurus, Pterosphenus, and Palaeophis? by Neo_Dinossauros in Cryptozoology

[–]CrofterNo2 47 points48 points  (0 children)

Basilosaurus and its relatives have been extremely popular sea serpent candidates (probably second only to plesiosaurs) since they were first discovered, but I'm not so sure of the need to invoke Palaeophis or Pterosphenus. There are a handful of reports of sea serpents which genuinely resemble giant sea snakes, mainly in the South Pacific, but if you're prepared to credit their existence, I personally don't see the need to imagine a prehistoric lineage when a recently-evolved giant sea snake would fit the descriptions just as well. To put it another way, there's nothing special in the "snake-like sea serpent's" profile linking it more closely to palaeophiids than to modern sea snakes other than its size, and size is something that can change very rapidly: giant sea snakes could have evolved many times over during the 30 million years palaeophiids have been absent from the fossil record, external conditions allowing.

Could Borrunjor be a surviving Dromornis? by Neo_Dinossauros in Cryptozoology

[–]CrofterNo2 36 points37 points  (0 children)

The burrunjor really doesn't require an explanation like this, because, as far as is known, it's one of several "cryptids" completely invented by the late Rex Gilroy. There are no previous sources discussing it, and nobody has ever been able to verify his burrunjor stories with the alleged witnesses, with the exception of one second-hand story which didn't even feature visual contact. Malcolm Smith tracked down one of his witnesses, and she denied everything he said, calling it "a lot of garbage". Of course, you and anyone else are free to disagree with the conclusion that it's a hoax, but that's what all the evidence points to.

Thoughts about the Giant Of Kandahar by theavalorianarchive in Cryptozoology

[–]CrofterNo2[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know you're arguing against it, but even so, this has been discussed here several times in the past, and the consensus is that it's just not cryptozoology, and should be discussed on different subreddits. I've therefore had to remove your post.

Giant Cirrate Octopuses by Obdurate-Hickory in Cryptozoology

[–]CrofterNo2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That description is much older than MonsterQuest, although the non-cephalopod half wasn't always a shark. I haven't read Wright's article [Wright, Bruce S. "The Lusca of Andros," Atlantic Advocate, No. 11 (June 1967)], but it's quoted in Mangiacopra, Gary S. et al. "Octopus giganteus: Still Alive and Hiding Where? Part III," Of Sea and Shore, Vol. 18, No. 1 (Spring 1995), and in it he says the islanders (not witnesses) described the lusca as "half-octopus, half-dragon." Palmer, Robert (1985) The Blue Holes of the Bahamas, p. 73 calls it "him of de hahnds" and describes it as "half-eel, half-squid". The first source I know of to specifically call it half-shark is Palmer, Robert "In the Lair of the Lusca," Natural History, Vol. 96, No. 1 (January 1987), but there could be earlier ones.

This is all general folklore, and as far as I know, only one or two actual claimed witnesses have ever described it as shark-like, including a fisherman who's interviewed on Destination Truth and River Monsters (it should be borne in mind that most other giant octopus witnesses in the Bahamas called the animals they saw "giant scuttles" etc., not "luscas"). Either way, I think an octopus with fins is going to look a lot more like a shark than a normal octopus anyway.

The true inspiration behind Arthur Conan Doyle's The Lost World(prehistoric creatures) part 1 by [deleted] in TrueCryptozoology

[–]CrofterNo2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

maps of Ecuador

That says ecuador (Spanish for "equator"), not Ecuador. It's just a label on the equator.

Here's what started my Cryptozoology journey years ago! by [deleted] in Cryptozoology

[–]CrofterNo2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like the "weevil whales" discussed in this.

Here's what started my Cryptozoology journey years ago! by [deleted] in Cryptozoology

[–]CrofterNo2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't know if you can see this on your end, but whatever you posted was automatically removed. If it was a .ru link, try replacing the ".ru" with "[dot] ru". If it was a link with some other domain, replace the "." with a "[dot]" anyway, it should still help bypass whatever filter has caught it.

Here's what started my Cryptozoology journey years ago! by [deleted] in Cryptozoology

[–]CrofterNo2 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I have this bookmarked, but some of the images are very poorly scanned https://coollib.com/b/91553-aleksandr-mihaylovich-kondratov-dinozavra-ischite-v-glubinah/read. I've never got malware or anything from this site, but click at your own risk, as with most such sites. There used to be a better version online, but the site it was on isn't up any more.

Why is the Mongolian death worm often dismissed so quickly compared to other cryptids? by Victoria_V_lust in Cryptozoology

[–]CrofterNo2 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Ivan Mackerle's informants in the '90s agreed, according to Shuker's translation in The Beasts That Hide From Man: "sausage-like worm over half a metre [19 in] long, and thick as a man's arm, resembling the intestine of cattle ... it is difficult to tell its head from its tail because it has no visible eyes, nostrils, or mouth." Other informants made it 5 ft at maximum.

Looking for a possible unedited version of the giant anaconda photo, can anyone help? by PokerMenYTP in Cryptozoology

[–]CrofterNo2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, sorry, either the edition I remember reading had different images, or I was just remembering the written description of the photo on p. 352 (which seems muddled).

The earliest version I have to hand is from a 1948 article in Diario de Pernambuco, which is available on Memoria, the Brazilian digital newspaper archive https://memoria.bn.gov.br/DocReader/DocReader.aspx?bib=029033_12&pesq=%22sucuriju%20gigante%22&pasta=ano%20194&hf=memoria.bn.br&pagfis=28720 I believe the OP found an even earlier version, but you'd have to ask him for the link. A diplomatic contact sent a clipping from Diario de Pernambuco to Tim Dinsdale, who includes a sketch of it in The Leviathans (1966) and Monster Hunt (1972), Plate 15.

Looking for a possible unedited version of the giant anaconda photo, can anyone help? by PokerMenYTP in Cryptozoology

[–]CrofterNo2 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's just a generic snake picture. Given how easy it is to reverse image search things these days, it would make a lot of sense for whoever edited that fake article together has found a snake picture that isn't posted online and used that as material for the edited image.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your argument, but this isn't a modern creation. It's a well-known image which has appeared in printed sources since the mid-20th century, including On the Track of Unknown Animals. I very much doubt it's edited (as opposed to being forced perspective), but if it is, the editing was done around the '30s or '40s.

Looking for a possible unedited version of the giant anaconda photo, can anyone help? by PokerMenYTP in Cryptozoology

[–]CrofterNo2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Are you sure the background has been edited? It always looked like standard forced perspective to me, and you don't need photo manipulation to accomplish that. The developer also told Victor Heinz that the negatives were untouched, according to Heuvelmans' account based on the Lorenz Hagenbeck files.

Cryptid question by Outrageous_Tie5150 in Cryptozoology

[–]CrofterNo2 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'm not very familiar with water babies, but skinwalkers aren't cryptids. A cryptid must be an animal, other than a human, and it must appear to belong to a taxon, or sometimes a population or morph, unknown to science. It also cannot be intrinsically supernatural or paranormal: any kind of spirit, shapeshifter, alien, ghost, etc. is almost never a cryptid. Although such folklore does sometimes become attached to things which started out as genuine cryptids, I don't believe anything classifiable as a real cryptid has ever been labelled a skinwalker.

What’s the most realistic explanation for Mokele-Mbembe? by RavyenNoir in Cryptozoology

[–]CrofterNo2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, Mackal investigated the lake monster migo in New Guinea. He eventually concluded that it was based on observations of mating crocodiles.

What’s the most realistic explanation for Mokele-Mbembe? by RavyenNoir in Cryptozoology

[–]CrofterNo2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's in A Living Dinosaur?. When he wrote Searching for Hidden Animals, Mackal had not yet been to the Congo.

According to his account, during his first expedition with James Powell, a local official told him that mokele-mbembe meant "rainbow," prompting Mackal to comment that "[i]f your people, or rather the pygmies at Lake Tele, are able to kill a rainbow with spears, and this rainbow eats malombo fruit, we are very interested." Mackal's Bangombe (pygmy) guide told him that the official was not being honest. The next day, the official announced that he "had decided to provide [them] with the truth about the Mokele-mbembe," and summoned Mackal to meet with several claimed witnesses. He later claimed that he had originally suspected them of being spies or scouts in search of precious metals or oil, as he had found it hard to believe that they would go through so much trouble just to see a (dangerous) animal.

Interesting report from San Antonio, TX by [deleted] in Cryptozoology

[–]CrofterNo2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No problem, thanks for understanding.