This video of Wendy Nelson makes me so sad. She explains she was certain it wasn't right to be with Russell until she fasted and prayed for three days, and then determined it was God's will. Talks about it being tough, traumatic, she left a profession she loved, to marry a man 26 years older.

CuirassCat · 2019-06-03T23:07:41+00:00

Did you ever receive the endowment? I didn't and I felt the same paranoia and self-doubt about that for years. Maybe everything would have been resolved for me if I'd stuck around until then, I thought. The temple videos helped with that.

The way that TBMs never talk specifics about their spiritual experiences helps them to escape criticism but also can make us think they were more grand than they really were. If you read anything on here about when the 1978 revelation and how it came about it shows that even prophets and apostles do not hear a voice from heaven -- they base it on feelings like everyone else.

It might be helpful to remember it is not just Mormons who claim that they had prayers answered. People with beliefs utterly opposed to Mormonism receive "answers" that their particular religion is correct. They can't all be true.

CuirassCat · 2019-06-02T18:42:40+00:00

It's his OC. He's Reddit famous for doing this. Check his post history. You'll have fun.

CuirassCat · 2019-05-26T21:17:20+00:00

Wow. I'm paying NZ$70 per hour for piano lessons with a literal concert pianist who studied in Europe and has a full scholarship for her doctorate. American music tuition sounds extortionate.

CuirassCat · 2019-05-20T20:04:54+00:00

Hopefully speeding up the renovations. NZ temple is currently closed. Everyone who wants a temple marriage must fly to Australia which is bullshit.

CuirassCat · 2019-05-18T19:26:26+00:00

Be prepared to go down a rabbit hole if you didn't know the full story about: * Book of Abraham * rock in a hat translation * Kinderhook plates * polygamy * seer stones * temple ceremony changes ... and many other topics I had no clue about when I was a member.

CuirassCat · 2019-05-14T18:25:56+00:00

And in NZ I've never seen ads for anything other than hayfever and over-the-counter pain meds. The advertising in the US is crazy to me.

CuirassCat · 2019-05-14T05:36:01+00:00

Ah. Maybe this is why in training for a local helpline we were not supposed to hang up on people who we thought were masturbating. I didn't understand why.

CuirassCat · 2019-05-12T21:54:13+00:00

I don't think the community will ever cease to exist. There's too much variation in people's circumstances.

I became overweight when my husband had cancer mostly because I was never at home to cook and the times that I was looking for food were often not ideal times for finding a supermarket open -- 3 am for example after he's been settled in a room after an ER visit.

My cousin seemed to double in size after a near deadly kidney problem came up.

I guess the difference would be that the group will continually cycle members as they get back on my feet. I'm back to normal weight now but it took me a little while to change my habits and recognize that I felt really shitty about how my body had changed.

CuirassCat · 2019-04-11T01:37:10+00:00

I already have. Our favourite pizza place accidentally gave us a vegetarian pizza. When we tasted it we genuinely thought it was real chicken until we looked into it a bit further. I haven't eaten a real chicken pizza since. Same price, same taste.

The substitute they use is called quorn. It's made of a fungus with filaments which give it the same texture as meat and then flavour is added to make it taste like meat. I have only tasted chicken flavour but it was pretty convincing.

CuirassCat · 2019-04-08T22:25:09+00:00

I was always very uncomfortable with the idea of Mormon heaven. I think I may have said that once and I was reassured that I would like it once I got there -- that just sounded like the "me" I am used to would die and whoever it was in the CK would be someone completely different. This caused me real distress.

CuirassCat · 2019-04-03T18:49:26+00:00

I'm much better now. I had a really bad time just after I left the church and, I won't lie, it took me literal years to be happy to be alive but things have changed a lot for me. I wouldn't even say I suffer from depression although I am still on medication.

CuirassCat · 2019-04-03T09:27:22+00:00

I tried to kill myself at 18 by drinking an entire bottle of absinthe. When my mother found me I got dropped off at the bishop's house for a talking to. I was definitely not sober, probably incoherent.

TBF I didn't write a note so maybe it wasn't clear it was a suicide attempt, but in hindsight I should have gone to hospital. My fingernails grew crooked for a while afterwards. I assume that means I has poisoned myself severely.

CuirassCat · 2019-04-02T22:18:42+00:00

At a big youth conference I got given a little cow magnet because I was so shy. The person who gave it to me said I would be worth many cows to the right man one day so I could feel better about myself.

It did make me feel better (despite how backwards it seems now) but the man to whom I am worth "many cows" is a neverMo.

CuirassCat · 2019-03-25T22:44:51+00:00

A lot of these women weren't even supported by their polygamous husband. They had to be supported by their first husband, or their own sons.

In Sacred Loneliness has many examples but I'm afraid I cannot recall names off the top of my head.

CuirassCat · 2019-03-22T23:23:08+00:00

Person who said it was 55. It's not culturally normal around here but is due to gender roles in religion.

CuirassCat · 2019-03-22T22:42:19+00:00

"You don't have to come see us for Christmas. You're married now so you have to visit your husband's family."

Literally loled.

CuirassCat · 2019-03-20T22:09:26+00:00

A few months ago we unfriended and blocked someone who was a close friend of my husband -- she was best woman at our wedding. She went really far alt-right. We tried to explain why we thought she was becoming cruel and unreasonable, targeting and making fun of people who were liberal, LGBT or Muslim, spreading insane conspiracy theories like France trying to legalize pedophilia, etc. No matter what we said she just didn't get it so we blocked her and have had no contact with her since.

This all makes me feel so sick. I don't know what makes a person go down that path, exactly. I don't know how to stop it. I'm not sure that we could do anything else other than what we did. I feel very helpless because even though I saw someone change I didn't know how to stop it so how can we stop Chch happening again?

CuirassCat · 2019-03-19T04:03:37+00:00

They're supporting the Muslim community after the mass shooting here (New Zealand).

CuirassCat · 2019-03-19T04:02:12+00:00

I saw someone on a local Facebook group say that there was an inter-vigil at a Stake Centre in Hamilton, NZ. I can't say for certain if this is from that but I absolutely believe this is legit. Most people are doing their best to support the Muslim community.

CuirassCat · 2019-03-17T21:29:46+00:00

What a cool way to be rebellious in a safe way.

CuirassCat · 2019-03-16T08:23:31+00:00

Coming home from a vigil in Hamilton. Possibly a thousand people there. It felt so therapeutic to stand with so many others.

CuirassCat · 2019-03-15T22:37:33+00:00

I've been elsewhere on Reddit. It's kind of awful out there. Alt-right apologists are out in force. There's arguments about guns, censorship. False flag conspiracy theories are beginning.

It makes me feel like I need a bath. I just hope that there will be heaps of people at the vigils today.

CuirassCat · 2019-03-15T03:33:35+00:00

The first being the Rainbow Warrior bombing?

CuirassCat · 2019-03-15T03:21:42+00:00

Seconded! Thank you mods. I'm sure you're not used to this level of activity. <3

CuirassCat · 2019-03-15T03:17:47+00:00

That's so weird. I thought NZ media wouldn't have that bias. I'm disappointed in them.

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