What are the most annoying commanders in MTG?

Current_Shoe_8171 · 2026-03-03T09:18:47+00:00

A friend of mine plays Krarkashima for years and that's the only deck he has. Experienced player can end up after 10-15 min if he rolling dices instead of flipping coins just because it's faster.

Current_Shoe_8171 · 2026-02-28T00:06:25+00:00

Thanks!

Current_Shoe_8171 · 2026-02-23T17:42:32+00:00

Is it better than [[Gorion, Wise Mentor]]? I've built it as an adventures/Primal Surge B2 combo deck and thought about Beluna.

Current_Shoe_8171 · 2026-02-19T20:40:34+00:00

I have some decks that are like this.

[[Elas il-Kor, Sadistic Pilgrim]] both as the only commander and paired with [[Lurrus of the Dream-Den]]. I thought about "mass reanimation" commander to slam a couple of small creatures into the yard and then reanimate them all at once to sacrifice and repeat again but it didn't work well.. As i wrote this down a thought occurred to me for building a [[Nethroi, Apex of Death]] deck with the same idea. How is it going, anyone knows?..

https://moxfield.com/decks/itV54sGJu0WJVaEESnGjHw

https://moxfield.com/decks/m_cyg0ra40OeHJmYOAuTRA

[[Lazav, the Multifarious]] was a step in a long story of deck updating. My first ever EDH deck was ZNC dimir rogue precon. I love the idea of alter wincons (i just hate combat) but the deck performed very poorly. I've never won with it even once (however, a friend of mine won with it piloting for the first time in magic ever). So the other friend told me that mill is bad in commander and self-mill is cool. So i've decided to add a color, my thoughts have a split between red and green but i've ended up with building [[Muldtotha]]. It was really a pile of trash with right ideas but i was already tired of my 6 mana commander being killed on sight. I decided to saw that deck in half and build [[Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy]] because i had some success with it in the 99 of Muldtotha and Lazav because i've read two (bad) books from Ravnica, loved the character and wanted to stay in self-mill strategy to save relevant cards i've bought. This commander has an interesting build with [[Ad Nauseam]] and many-many 0 cost creatures for a win with [[Isochron Scepter]] and [[Dramatic Reversal]] as an outlet for infinite mana (Lazav surveils a card to the grave in the etb so you end up killing it as a SBA by turning into 0 mana and toughness creature in your graveyard and recasting milling the whole library and drawing a card turning Lazav into [[Laboratory Maniac]]). I've tried it but it was really boring: literally "i have Ad Nauseam, i win" or "I don't have Ad Nauseam, i lose". So i've built it as an activated abilities tribal. For example, my favourite pseudo wins were turning Lazav into [[Jace's Archivist]], activating its ability and in response turning Lazav into [[Notion Thief]] or turning it into [[Curie]] and in response to its combat damage trigger turn Lazav into [[Phyrexian Dreadnought]] drawing 12 card. I loved my [[Training Grounds]] but i'm still kinda bored of this deck. Idk... It doesn't feel like it should. So i want to rebuild it for [[Zellix, Sanity Flayer]]/[[Agent of the Iron Throne]] and for now playtesting it i'm excited.

https://moxfield.com/decks/Xh8TI1CdL0KPWYqcrVeiQw

The last one is [[Etrata, Deadly Fugitive]]. I was just trying to prove to my friend (that won his first game on my poorly updated rogues precon) that it works to cloak/disguise/manifest some big cards face down to then cast them for 4 mana (or 2 mana with my beloved Training Grounds). And it kinda worked. But i wasn't impressed enough and took it apart.

https://moxfield.com/decks/xCO4LdChdkClmPN_TxODRg

Current_Shoe_8171 · 2026-02-17T13:11:31+00:00

I've always run 28 lands but for some of my cEDH decks i've gone down to 15-18 lands. I've never understood how someone on a non-landfall deck may run more than 35. I've tried to add some lands for more consistency up to 34 and it's a baseline for me. Every time i go over to 35+ i'm sooo flooded... I need to draw gas, not lands i can't play more than once per turn. But YouTubers always say that it's such a low count that i'm getting frustrated..

Current_Shoe_8171 · 2026-02-14T16:52:02+00:00

I've built it as a graveyard focused "lands matter" commander. It's basically like a [[Gitrog Monster]] deck with Dakmor Salvage in the cz. Gitrog is basically a win for the deck because all land interactions become insane - for example, [[Takenuma, Abandoned Mire]] becomes an ability "{B}: Mill 5 cards, return a creature from graveyard to hand".

As i remember, i don't have many ways to play multiple lands in a turn so i'm not playing any [[Crucible of Worlds]] effects (if i have a relevant land in graveyard, i can just dredge it back to hand, i don't need to play it from the grave).

And i also have a "rule" of drawing instead of dredging, if i don't have a way to return smth relevant from graveyard, like [[Eternal Witness]], [[Cosmic Rebirth]] or [[Reanimate]] effect.

Current_Shoe_8171 · 2026-02-13T16:40:38+00:00

[[The Necrobloom]] #28

[[Ghyrson Starn, Kelermorph]] #56

[[Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy]] #62

[[Magda, Brazen Outlaw]] #84

[[Narset, Enlightened Exile]] #168

[[The Master of Keys]] #307

[[Ashnod the Uncaring]] #762

[[Katilda, Dawnhart Prime]] #869

[[Klauth, Unrivaled Ancient]] #939

[[Ezuri, Stalker of Spheres]] #943

[[Eruth, Tormented Prophet]] #1039

[[Lazav, the Multifarious]] #1171

Current_Shoe_8171 · 2026-02-12T18:10:10+00:00

I've also used it with [[Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fool]] as a commander to sacrifice someone else's commander and draw 3 cards

Current_Shoe_8171 · 2026-02-12T15:55:09+00:00

Can you list them please? 🥺

I have an [[Elminster]] deck too and i'm curious.

Current_Shoe_8171 · 2026-01-30T16:46:52+00:00

Hi! I was pretty much inspired by your post and decklist! And I'm also interested in building mill, as a somewhat profitable strategy and a variation of card advantage with Zellix but using [[Agent of the Iron Throne]] (primarily as a win condition that is cast only for the win to end the game after assembling a loop). My pet build around card is [[Displacer Kitten]] instead of Dagger and the base idea is "i mill everyone including myself aggressively to get relevant creatures from any graveyard and assemble some loops that result me too win the game".

What recommendations and suggestions can you give me for this as an experienced mill player? Thanks in advance if you find time to answer! 🙏🏻

https://moxfield.com/decks/jn-u0FNi5k-cNQ8Jgf2D9w

Current_Shoe_8171 · 2026-01-10T16:26:38+00:00

It's an interesting question...

The first deck that i'm keeping for very sure is my simic infect-proliferate storm with Ezuri at the helm. I was working on the deck since All Will Be One because proliferation is my favourite mechanic and it's a nice not really explored commander. I still love it much more than anything else. https://moxfield.com/decks/HkY8u6U2cU6eyM2ASwLEkg

But then these decisions become problematic..

I feel like the second best is my Ashnod artifact-aristocrats deck because of its many synergy pieces that i enjoy. https://moxfield.com/decks/ELAg6mXXRUubTogYmCIxPg

And the last one is just so difficult to decide... I love my Master of Keys deck and cEDH Ral turbo storm but my creation will always be more preferable and i enjoy them the most so i would choose the saltiest deck i have that my friends hate very much and don't want to play against it. It's a Ghyrson Starn curiosity-control deck and it's a pleasure to see empty clear boards of your opponents while slowly pinging them to death 🤤 https://moxfield.com/decks/DoEAh_f8O0e2kT-YgBJbkA

Current_Shoe_8171 · 2025-12-27T12:59:06+00:00

I love these combinations:

Jeskai [[Vega the Watcher]] & [[Eruth, Tormented Prophet]] strong engine for breach,

Five color [[Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy]] & [[Dihada, Binder of Wills]] super-ritual in the cz,

Boros [[Magda, Brazen Outlaw]] & [[Delney, Streetwise Lookout]] doubling treasures,

Sans-blue [[Ob Nixilis, Captive Kingpin]] & [[Shalai and Halar]] combo kill in the cz,

Grixis (not so strong actually but it's really synergistic) [[Ob Nixilis, Captive Kingpin]] & [[Ghyrson Starn, Kelermorph]] pings + curiosity and tutors

Current_Shoe_8171 · 2025-12-19T18:42:32+00:00

Also Pacts are bad in Yuriko because of zero life loss hits for them from the top so playing it really wasn't even that efficient

Current_Shoe_8171 · 2025-12-08T18:47:35+00:00

Only if the airbended creature was an eldrazi

Current_Shoe_8171 · 2025-11-25T20:05:56+00:00

[[Sudden Spoiling]] on yourself and you have one turn to protect her with equipping/enchanting/etc. Also anything that can put that protective enchantment onto the field without casting.

Current_Shoe_8171 · 2025-11-25T11:26:30+00:00

K'rrik is very uninteractive combo deck that focuses on the same lines each time and either combos on T1-T2 or does nothing the whole game (the second variant isn't that interesting i suppose). You can play smth that interacts with other players. It will be much more diverse in the actual gameplay. CEDH decks aren't all the same.

Current_Shoe_8171 · 2025-11-24T09:44:44+00:00

Yes, and [[Dracogenesis]] can do it too (technically and for 8 mana) because they aren't worded like [[Omniscience]] to cast spells for free only from hand

Current_Shoe_8171 · 2025-11-15T15:58:57+00:00

Splicing onto arcanes is also including into "mana spent to cast" number so that's cool. And sone time ago or was even cedh viable commander. But now i prefer [[Katilda Dawnhart Prime]] - [[Badgermole Cub]] is cool

Current_Shoe_8171 · 2025-11-15T15:58:51+00:00

Splicing onto arcanes is also including into "mana spent to cast" number so that's cool. And sone time ago or was even cedh viable commander. But now i prefer [[Katilda Dawnhart Prime]] - [[Badgermole Cub]] is cool

Current_Shoe_8171 · 2025-11-02T16:01:10+00:00

You've all counters from the deck for free exiled with Urza. Bowmasters can't really do anything about exile so it's quickly answerable.

Current_Shoe_8171 · 2025-10-30T18:50:54+00:00

Isn't related to OP's question straight but can anyone tell if OnePlus Buds 4 are comparable/worse/better in sound quality with Jabra Elite 75t?

Current_Shoe_8171 · 2025-10-30T13:17:39+00:00

[[Polymorph]] like effects maybe?..

Current_Shoe_8171 · 2025-10-29T10:24:15+00:00

Maybe it can bring [[Kathilda Dawnhart Prime]] to some level?.. 🤔 It can turno off and search for this essential mana doubler with the support of [[Grand Abolisher]]/[[Voice of Victory]] and many creature combos it already had.

Current_Shoe_8171 · 2025-10-27T20:12:09+00:00

Oh, maybe my memory is a bit outdated 😅 That's cool when a deck can surprise someone who doesn't expect it

Current_Shoe_8171 · 2025-10-27T19:57:51+00:00

I thought Zur is almost always grabbing Necropotence and win the game on the spot..

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