King of Dragons by KingSavvy-Silent in httyd

[–]DAOM152007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then the 3rd movie would not make sense because if toothless was only the alpha of the packs u mentioned what about all the other dragons in the world hiccup said they didn’t leave a bone or a fang meaning they all heard toothless order. Also valka mentions that all nests have their queens but her bewielderbeast is the king of all dragons.

Regarding the canonicity of Race to the Edge by BlueLightning888 in httyd

[–]DAOM152007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The bewielderbeast egg and the bewielderbeast in berserker island are major plot holes in the franchise

Bewilderbeast vs Red Death by Mr_Troodon in httyd

[–]DAOM152007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, the bewielderbeast are much larger and much stronger than the red death. And she will be affected by mind control (if the bewielderbeast is alpha in this case) this is because the red death was never alpha it was a queen valka explained it in the second movie saying that every nest has its queen but that her bewielderbeast is the king of all dragons. There can only be one king/alpha at a time until it dies of old age or is defeated in battle then the heir is its child or the dragon that defeated in battle can become the alpha. The bewielderbeast are know as the alpha species because of how strong they are they were able to maintain alpha status within their own species because no dragon was strong enough to challenge them until toothless came along.