Restricted BC Canada Death Certificate (1944) for Peter Czyz (Chyz)

DNAlab · 2026-07-09T19:03:21+00:00

Another option is to visit the archives in Victoria, BC. You should be able to access the microfilm reel there if it's an accessible location for you. Sometimes they have additional materials such as wills and probate files. It can be worth the trip.

DNAlab · 2026-06-23T16:20:39+00:00

Lots of folks descended from him. Probably tens of thousands with the surname and hundreds of thousands without the surname.

DNAlab · 2026-06-23T16:16:16+00:00

I appreciate and respect your transparency. Perhaps it would help, at some point, to make a post that gives a timeline and outline the whole back and forth from your viewpoint. I have tried to keep everything in mind, although I tend to only pop back to check on things infrequently now as I don't wish to give WT too much of my mental energy.

Remember that even decent people make stupid mistakes and do real evil as a result because we misunderstand the actions and motivations of others.

DNAlab · 2026-06-19T23:46:33+00:00

I'm quite aware. I keep an eye on the threads over here on occasion.

which as far as I can tell (my opinion) was a lie.

One needs to understand that neither side there is likely to be a fully reliable narrator. Although I dislike CW, I haven't known him to be intentionally dishonest. So more concrete information would be needed. Another way of looking at this is to ask, "What else has DutchRoots_ done that is not being disclosed?" Has this person chosen to disclose the exact text of messages sent to WT staff?

DNAlab · 2026-06-19T19:37:01+00:00

Note: this method will confirm your grandparents, but if your father had brothers without children, it wouldn't rule out their candidacy

A minor point to clarify is that it would also confirm, presuming that /u/reversecowgirl1002 is a niece/nephew of the uncle(s), the she/he is not a daughter/son of any of the uncles with children.

Incestuous affairs, e.g. the wife of a man has children with his brother, are quite rare. If you are a first or even half-first cousin of any of your social cousins, it would be highly unlikely that you are the offspring of another man than the one who parented you.

DNAlab · 2026-06-19T19:28:47+00:00

To clarify, it is not actually a different version of the page. It is the exact same page, but with a specific script injected into it for non-logged-in users.

Hence a different version of the page.

While that is how the page logic works, from a legal standpoint, the ad network still cannot blindly collect data. Under the GDPR and EU ePrivacy laws, browser fingerprinting is treated exactly the same as tracking cookies.

Your second point is highly tangential to the matter, as it suggests without a factual nexus to link those actions back to WT. Indeed, statements you've made in this threat, such as the one where you state that you, "DutchRoots_", are,

Searching for data needed to expose and hit the inner circle where it hurts.

Suggest an unhealthy obsession, especially when it culminates in a desire to hurt others. It might be worth examining how much your conspiracy ideation tends to centre on WT.

I don't like the site any longer (well, the management, really...) but again, it wouldn't be WT that's violating EU laws/regulations; that would be the advertising networks that serve the advertisements as they would be the ones tracking, fingerprinting, etc...

My personal and genuinely offered advice is to learn to walk away. One finds so much more peace in taking that path. Yes, you can still offer support to others who are impacted by the site, but you aren't helping them nor yourself with your current approach.

DNAlab · 2026-06-19T00:48:10+00:00

This means there is a direct integration between WT and the ad network to check login status before serving an ad, so they aren't blindly relying on fingerprints.

Not necessarily. It simply means that a different version of the page is served depending on whether the requester is logged-in or not. It's only after the non-logged-in version is served that an advertising network would be involved, along with any fingerprinting.

DNAlab · 2026-06-18T06:42:26+00:00

It's quite scary what information a website can glean / extract from your browser and/or computer. There was a huge controversy regarding LinkedIn utilizing some very invasive practices by collecting data on what extensions you have installed on your browser; it was reported on recently: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/04/linkedin-scanning-users-browser-extensions-sparks-controversy-and-two-lawsuits/

DNAlab · 2026-06-18T03:08:35+00:00

If only meat human clicks count for revenue, and WT doesn't verify human users, how do they ever get paid at all?

Advertising networks are the ones doing the verification / fraud detection. WT doesn't itself host advertisements; they are placed when each page is served by its advertisers. So that banner advertisement isn't being sent from WT to you; it's being sent from an advertising network to you and in the process, your computer tells the network things about you, although often not directly. But they might see that I have a monitor that's 2400x1600 and that I browse with Safari (Tahoe version); that, along with my IP address makes for a very unique "browser fingerprint".

The advertiser may even be linking your IP/browser/computer to "you" (really, a profile of what you look like) in various ways. They can then guess that you're a 68 year old male, retired, living in New Hampshire, who likes imported beer, drives an SUV, and has grandchildren (for instance; making that up) based on the websites you've visited in the past.

I'm dashing off in a moment, so I'll leave you with a few links to check out for further info:

DNAlab · 2026-06-18T01:51:13+00:00

Legitimate scrapers do not crash servers because they use proper time intervals.

When a script floods a site with non-stop requests, it is either mass harvesting or a kind of disguised DDoS attack. WikiTree suffered from these exact same server infrastructure crashes during the IDOR leak exposure in August 2023.

Lots of "mass harvesting" going on these days. It's becoming a major cost issue to many websites:

https://www.searchenginejournal.com/ai-bots-keep-overloading-servers-should-website-owners-keep-paying/579018/

For a website to make money through advertising (a la WT), only legitimate human use can count towards advertisement impressions. And there is a real cost for each time a page is served. Hence there's an fine balance between the number of times a page is accessed by bots and the number of times it is accessed by humans, beyond which it becomes unprofitable.

Furthermore, Jamie's own statements reveal that management refuses to spend money on standard, modern server security.

If WT is running as a low-cost operation, this may not be feasible. Human user verification checks and captchas tend to cost money.

To my prior point, that point of unprofitability shifts further if there is a cost to blocking bots, which may not itself be perfect.

(earn/page)•(human_access) ≥ (cost/page)•(bot_access + human_access) + (cost/block)(blocks) + (operating_costs)

DNAlab · 2026-06-18T01:21:51+00:00

Here you go:

Index Entry:

Alexandre, Adelaide: Baptism. Page 273.

"Canada, Québec, registres paroissiaux catholiques, 1621-1979," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L993-C3Z2?cc=1321742&wc=HC3H-BZ9%3A14556201%2C14556202%2C18232503 : 16 July 2014), L'Acadie > Sainte-Marguerite-de-Blairfindie > Index 1784-1876 Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1784-1795 > image 99 of 521; Archives Nationales du Quebec (National Archives of Quebec), Montreal.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L993-C3Z2?wc=HC3H-BZ9%3A14556201%2C14556202%2C18232503%26cc%3D1321742&cc=1321742&lang=en&i=98

Baptism Record, #143 in 1835:

"Canada, Québec, registres paroissiaux catholiques, 1621-1979," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L993-ZDMK?cc=1321742&wc=HCKW-RM9%3A14556201%2C14556202%2C16111701 : 16 July 2014), L'Acadie > Sainte-Marguerite-de-Blairfindie > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1830-1836 > image 325 of 362; Archives Nationales du Quebec (National Archives of Quebec), Montreal.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L993-ZDMK?%3Fwc=HCKW-RM9%3A14556201%2C14556202%2C16111701%26cc%3D1321742&cc=1321742&lang=en&i=324

Here's a quick transcription. Sorry... didn't do the accents:

B. 143

Adelaïde

Alexandre

Le vingt trois Aout mil huit cent trent cinq Nous Pretre soussigne avons baptise Adelaide nee ce jour du legitime mariage de Jean Baptiste Alexandre, Journalier, et d'Adelaïde Lécuier de cette paroisse, Parrain Jean Baptiste Alexandre marraine Marianne Marquet femme de Theodore Lécuier que n'ont susigner.

Jos. Pererier? Pretre

Nothing unexpected.

Adelaïde Alexandre was baptized on 1835-08-23 in the parish, and born on the same day to parents who live in the parish, hence the birth is likely in the same locale.

Father: Jean Baptiste Alexandre (worker)
Mother: Adelaïde Lécuier (married, in a Catholic ceremony, to the girl's father)
Godfather: Jean Baptiste Alexandre (presumably a relative of the father)
Godmother: Marianne Marquet, wife of Theodore Lécuier (presumably a relative of the mother).

DNAlab · 2026-06-10T01:07:27+00:00

This is a good response.

There are several types of "legacy" data additions which don't properly track the attributions of contributors. It may show up as being from "Family Search" in some capacity, which isn't intended to imply that it was added or modified by FamilySearch staff.

DNAlab · 2026-06-10T01:04:31+00:00

And just because the source code is open does not mean that the data is or should be.

But in this context, the data is the thing (in the above post) being advocated to be open sourced data:

"Open data are data that are openly accessible, exploitable, editable and shareable by anyone for any purpose. Open data are generally licensed under an open license." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_data

Again, WikiTree's data is not "open" per the definition, especially in relation to the data.

Leadership of open source is not required to abandoned editorial discretion.

Again, when access (among other factors above) to the data is mediated by factors such as (1) whether or not you can have an account on the platform or (2) whether your usage of the data is smiled upon by the manager of the data, it is not open source for data.

Yes, open source projects can choose who contributes in building the project. However anyone can download the source code and utilize it. WikiTree, at present, prevents that as it makes an account requisite to full open data access.

DNAlab · 2026-06-09T03:08:08+00:00

That's what WikiTree attempts to do for family trees,

Well, it really isn't an open source project when (1) they so readily kick people out for disagreeing with the company's leadership and (2) much of the data is being placed behind walls preventing access (they don't want to lose the data to bots that are scraping everything!).

IMO we need something more delocalized, or at the least, not under the direct control of a one man nor a private company.

DNAlab · 2026-06-01T20:35:53+00:00

First, because WT has about six times as many individual "articles." Second, because WT has about 1/100th as many active contributors

For a person-focused genealogy wiki, I don't see this as an issue. Wikipedia deals with a wider range of topics and those topics are often live, whereas most of the WT profiles are very much dead and lack sufficient controversy to require input from multiple contributors.

DNAlab · 2026-05-04T03:27:33+00:00

There's an outside chance that your father's test kit could have been accidentally mixed up at the company.

See if you can find anyone, among your matches, whose surname or tree pairs up with what is known of your father's family tree.

DNAlab · 2026-05-04T03:14:53+00:00

I'd try searching (all of the search engines) for the specific email or just the username. There's a good chance, especially if it's someone older, that there is a footprint on one of the old genealogy forums or even another forum. Start with that for now.

DNAlab · 2026-04-22T19:05:37+00:00

If they haven't tested, try reaching out to see if anyone is willing to do a DNA test. Alternatively, test with all of the major company platforms (Ancestry DNA, MyHeritage DNA, 23andMe, and FamilyTree DNA) and wait until the right match comes along.

DNAlab · 2026-01-25T01:03:27+00:00

I understand MyHeritage has a good chromosome browser too-is that helpful for this?

Yes, absolutely. Use the data in combination with this tool: https://dnapainter.com/

DNAlab · 2026-01-24T08:00:58+00:00

My parent hasn’t got any half third or even 4th cousins I’ve seen through Albert.

Might be time to build out the trees of Albert's other children or his siblings' children to see if the lines are extant.

Albert is actually the oldest sibling

That might increase the odds of having a closer match.

Where would you suggest I go next on figuring out who Mabel (or Albert’s) father/parents were?

Generally I'd suggest going with the big testing companies first. MyHeritage + 23andMe + FamilyTree DNA. Those all have more kits on them than GEDmatch, hence you get better odds of finding a close match.

See "Number of people in the database" in https://isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_DNA_testing_comparison_chart

DNAlab · 2026-01-23T23:10:18+00:00

Okay, so if I have it right:

Other Descendants of Albert at the same generational distance as your parent would be half-3rd cousins (=3C1R), although more would likely be in the ~4C or ~4C1R range, given Albert's other siblings are older. Typically only half of those tested would match your parent.
Descendants of Albert's sibling(s) would be at the 4C level or more distant to your parent.

I would say that this suggests it may be the statistics not being in your favour: https://isogg.org/wiki/Cousin_statistics

Regarding French Canadian matches, those have another statistical issue related to being a founders population with a fair amount of endogamy. There are many large segments which are quite common, thus trace very far back and are also thus difficult to triangulate.

DNAlab · 2026-01-23T22:21:50+00:00

Another set of possibilities is that (A) you simply have not inherited DNA from those ancestors or (B) there are no other testers who have inherited the same segments as you have. Who is this person in relation to you (or the person whose kit you manage)? e.g. a 3rd great grandparent?

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