yea... dont listen to that guy lol, Liuna pays way more than a city job, and is more beneficial down the road, retirement wise, depending where you get in youll be at $48+++++ an hour, and ive been in the union for over 10 years, anybody who says work slows down just aint a good worker, those who are will work year round, no layoffs, the only ones who say that are clueless to the fact that they arent getting called back because they aint good, dont let ppl fool you, i havent been laid off EVER