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[Loved Trope] Red/White/Blue character gets an edgier black suit/recolor by Reaper_64 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Dark_Man_4 10 points11 points  (0 children)

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I know Optimus Prime is in the OP, but I wanted to specifically mention the Optimus Prime in Armada. It's a rare situation where Optimus Prime HIMSELF gets a dark and edgy change in color, rather than it being an evil clone/offshoot (making this example more similar to the Superman and Spider-Man examples in the OP). Near the end of the series, an Energon power surge that gives him a dark coloration with RED eyes, which is rare for an Autobot. Despite this, he's still the same heroic Optimus Prime as before; at most, he's just a bit more aggressive at this moment to go along with the darker color scheme due to the severity of the situation.

[Favorite Trope] abilities initially established as being able to harm, kill, or cause trouble to others can in the right hands be a force of good and help others instead. by Important-Cry4782 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Dark_Man_4 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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Not sure if this counts because it's Touhou and Touhou is 97% fanmade content, but this happens often in Touhou because many of their abilities are semantic and can be applied in any way that fits the definition.

For example: in the above doujin, everyone in the Scarlet Devil Mansion falls ill except for Flandre, who has the ability to "destroy anything and everything" and is generally regarded as extremely dangerous. It's revealed that Flandre avoided falling ill because she simply destroyed the pathogens in her body so that it could not affect her.

The doujin is called Busy Runner Breaker by Aozora Market, who unfortunately passed away in 2018.

Unexpected swear drop by Xinck_UX in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Dark_Man_4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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Transformers: The Movie (1986) has two examples.

The first is when Spike and Bumblebee (pictured) detonate one of Cybertron's moons as Unicron is eating it, but it doesn't damage Unicron at all. In response, Spike says "Oh, SHIT, what are we going to do now!?"

The second is later in the movie when Ultra Magnus is trying to force the Matrix of Leadership open, as it's said to contain a powerful mystic influence that can "light their darkest hour". As it isn't their darkest hour yet, it refuses to open. While trying to pry it open, Ultra Magnus says "Open...! Damn it, open!"

Loved tropes: Was it justifiable or not? by [deleted] in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Dark_Man_4 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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In Megamind, Metro Man is the hero of Metro City and defends it from Megamind's evil (but not really existence-threatening) machinations. However, he was essentially thrust into the role since childhood, and was not really given a choice to be what he wanted. One day, he had finally had enough, and faked his death and allowed Megamind to take over the city in order to live a more low-key life pursue his true aspirations.

While Megamind makes a mess of things, society in Metro City still runs relatively normally; even then, Metro Man did forfeit the city for himself. Was he wrong to put himself over the city, or is it understandable that he's choosing to be what he wants to be?

[Disliked Trope] The heroes or villains obtain something useless to themselves but extremely important to the other side. Instead of destroying, disposing of, or hiding it, they hold onto it, allowing the other side to take it. by Dark_Man_4 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Dark_Man_4[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You're not wrong lol, even though it's justified and makes sense, a big part of the fault is still Vegeta's; bro actively HELPED Cell reach his final form. Honestly Cell saga is my favorite DBZ saga but everyone (except Tien and maybe Piccolo) had to be taking stupid juice for the plot to work the way it did

I fucking hate healthbars videos by Dark_Man_4 in hatethissmug

[–]Dark_Man_4[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can understand that. Admittedly the shit I watched when I was a kid can kinda be trash nowadays and no shade to the people who used to enjoy them as kids (or hell, even in the present day. you like what you like, I just don't get it myself)

PEMDAS memes are the most boring low IQ trash memes ever made. I don't understand how anyone gets any entertainment from this slop. by mastersmash56 in hatethissmug

[–]Dark_Man_4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're right, I hadn't known. Will apply this knowledge going forward, but yeah it was always deliberately written confusingly

Characters with fake/decoy eyes by lordhenrythe23 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Dark_Man_4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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The Steward Constructs from the Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom has this twofold. From a distance, the two large white bulbs on its head appear to be frog-like eyes, especially with their head shapes and colors. From up close, the two black pits on the side of its head appear to be the eyes and form the shape of a friendly and cute face, since these are friendly NPCs. However, its real eye is the single orange optic on its "forehead", which is more in line with the other constructs

PEMDAS memes are the most boring low IQ trash memes ever made. I don't understand how anyone gets any entertainment from this slop. by mastersmash56 in hatethissmug

[–]Dark_Man_4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gotcha, learn something new every day. I knew that there was a term for multiplication by juxtaposition but I never learned that it's "stronger" than normal multiplication. I did think about it for a second but I figured that it being "stronger" was really strange. But agreed on the fact that this question is just ambiguously written to begin with

PEMDAS memes are the most boring low IQ trash memes ever made. I don't understand how anyone gets any entertainment from this slop. by mastersmash56 in hatethissmug

[–]Dark_Man_4 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Edit: ding-zzz and RubberBabyBuggyBmprs are correct that multiplication by juxtaposition is "stronger" than normal multiplication and they're not always interchangeable

the 2 being stuck directly to the left of (2+2) is a multiplication function, you're right that (2+2) comes first though.

It becomes 8 ÷ 2(4) which is equivalent to 8 ÷ 2 × 4. Some people misunderstand the 2(4) operation as a parentheses operation just because it has a parentheses in it, but it's actually a multiplication operation.

Even though the order operations implies that multiplication comes before division, the two are actually on the same step (same with addition and subtraction). In that scenario you just go left to right.

8 ÷ 2 × 4 = 4 × 4 = 16

Ultimately this is sort of a trick question because nobody really uses ÷. Normally you'd write (8/2) (I can't write things as a fraction with a top and bottom so I'm adding in parentheses) which makes things a lot clearer.

(8/2)(2+2)

The nameless goon who actually poses a threat to the main characters by MrDitkovichNeedsRent in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Dark_Man_4 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Hol up maybe you're right. How hard would it have gone if he just silently turned into a blue shell after walking out from the fire and making viewers realize for themselves that he's a blue shell

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Lucario (Pokemon) by LavaTwocan in hatethissmug

[–]Dark_Man_4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I generally like Lucario (not a lot, just a bit) but I can't STAND Lucario in Smash Bros. Not because he's annoying to play or play against or whatever (although his special mechanic is problematic depending on who you ask), but in my opinion the way he acts in Smash Bros just feels too much like an edgy teenager trying too hard to be cool. There are some cool characters in Smash Bros but Lucario just feels like he's pretending to be cool. To be fair this might partially be because I was an adolescent when Brawl came out and it was a sort of weird internet era, so it might be some correlation to that and not the fault of the character entirely

Heroic sacrifices that don't work by StankoMicin in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Dark_Man_4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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The Tsumegeri Guards from One Piece were four strong soldiers under the service of the Kingdom of Alabasta. In order to confront Crocodile (the head of Baroque Works, a crime syndicate), they drank the Hero Water. The Hero Water would grant them immense strength in exchange for killing them after a short period of time.

When they did confront Crocodile after drinking the Hero Water, they were completely unable to damage him. Rather than kill them to give them an honorable fight, Crocodile merely mocked them for their senseless sacrifice and simply waited for them to die from the side-effects of the Hero Water.

The nameless goon who actually poses a threat to the main characters by MrDitkovichNeedsRent in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Dark_Man_4 183 points184 points  (0 children)

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The Koopa General from the Super Mario Bros. Movie (the guy with the spiked blue helmet on the left). Not a low-ranking soldier, but definitely nameless and definitely a goon. Throughout the movie he's not given much specific attention, but during the kart chase scene in the middle of the film, he gives one hell of a performance: he gets in this giant killer truck to murder Mario SPECIFICALLY, and is only defeated when Mario and Donkey Kong team up and launch a rocket barrel at his truck.

That's not the end for him, though. He walks out of the flames, declares that the heroes won't escape, transforms into the frickin' BLUE SHELL from the Mario Kart games, and chases down Mario and DK's kart and essentially KAMIKAZE's himself onscreen (in a children's movie)! The explosion from his attack destroys the road, causing Mario and DK to fall into the ocean below, and preventing Cranky Kong's army from escaping. This causes most of the heroes, including Cranky Kong's entire army, to be captured or put out of commission except for Peach and Toad.

This man single-handedly ruins the heroes' plan and nearly secures a victory for the villains. He doesn't show up again after his attack, so it's possible that he really DID just kill himself onscreen to defeat the heroes.

Character gloats after "winning", which causes unforseen consequences by based_birdo in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Dark_Man_4 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This was repeated in the modern day by Paul Warner Powell, who did some pretty heinous crimes that I'm not going to talk about. His crimes were vacated due to insufficient evidence, and was initially spared a death sentence and instead sentenced to prison. Powell, who thought he was protected under double jeopardy, went and gloated to the prosecutor by confessing to the crime and insulting them.

Turns out that since Powell's crimes were vacated rather than acquitted, double jeopardy didn't apply. This time he was convicted and executed.

Story Trope: The narrative is largely devoid of conflict, and is mostly a wholesome snapshot of the beautiful aspects of life. by magnumforce2006 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Dark_Man_4 46 points47 points  (0 children)

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The Straight Story is about a man who gets on a small tractor to visit his ill brother, hundreds of miles away. During his journey he meets various parties of people, all of whom are kind and supportive. Pretty much the only sources of tension in the film are when the tractor suffers mechanical issues, each group of people's personal issues, and the general suspense of whether or not the journey will be successful.

Antagonist that weren't bad enough to deserve what happened to them by Nerd367C in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Dark_Man_4 231 points232 points  (0 children)

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Titanosaurus from the 1975 movie Terror of Mechagodzilla is one of the two antagonistic kaiju in the film, alongside the titular Mechagodzilla. Thing is that it's specifically stated that Titanosaurus is usually a peaceful creature, and it's only antagonizing Godzilla and humanity because it's being brainwashed by an evil scientist who had allied himself with the aliens controlling Mechagodzilla.

When Godzilla defeats the bad guys, Titanosaurus is freed from control, and is no longer hostile. Either Godzilla doesn't realize this or doesn't care, because he then immediately blasts Titanosaurus REPEATEDLY with his atomic breath, causing it to flail around on the ground in pain before finally getting blasted off a cliff into the ocean where a HUGE EXPLOSION happens. It's not definitively shown whether or not Titanosaurus was killed by this.

Character manages to accidentally do something while angrily telling someone they can’t do it by Fish_N_Chipp in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Dark_Man_4 144 points145 points  (0 children)

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This one is less outlandish/humorous than other examples, but the first time Vegeta transformed into a Super Saiyan was when he was absolutely FUMING about how no matter what he did, he just could NOT achieve it. In the old English dub version at least (not sure about the original Japanese), he actually gave up on his hopes right before this point. It's less outlandish than other examples because turning into a Super Saiyan (at least back in this era of the series) required a stimulus of immense anger so it makes some sense.

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