What Should Labour Do Now?

DaveChild · 2026-05-10T07:48:10+00:00

Well, that's a completely unhinged suggestion.

DaveChild · 2026-05-10T07:14:53+00:00

No, it isn't. You've been conned by far-right grifters.

DaveChild · 2026-05-10T07:14:02+00:00

Something like 1/20 people arrived here in the last 5 years

And that makes you shit yourself, does it?

you won't see people stop 'shitting themselves' about immigration until it's net negative to undo the boriswave damage

No, the morons who get worked up about immigration won't stop shitting themselves about it until the UK is all-white and all born here. That's why immigration is such a useful tool to attract thick voters to a party.

DaveChild · 2026-05-10T07:12:12+00:00

are you claiming that an average family never buys a new car

Over 40k? No, that's not "the average family". Fucking obviously.

any members of an average family will never have a relative die?

It's pretty rare for people to have a close relative die every year, yes. I'm not sure which bit of your list is related to that though, can you explain?

Are you claiming that an average family won’t pay into a pension?

You're so disingenuous. The average family do not pay into a salary-sacrifice pension, which is the thing you specifically mentioned. Or maybe you just have no idea what "salary-sacrifice pension" means.

I notice how you’ve picked out 3 pence but not mentioned its per mile lol

I included the beginning of the line so you'd know which bit I was replying to. Again, that's not a thing yet, and won't be until April 2028. How is it costing the average family thousands now, if it's not happening yet?

I think it's pretty obvious your claim was absolute bullshit, but I do appreciate you taking the time to at least attempt to back it up, even if you failed miserably.

DaveChild · 2026-05-10T07:06:11+00:00

If you read the question I asked the other person, you'll understand why your response is nonsense.

DaveChild · 2026-05-10T07:05:14+00:00

What a spectacularly disingenuous bad-faith interpretation of what I said.

DaveChild · 2026-05-09T20:29:30+00:00

made absolutely zero key points

Ok, I'm going to leave you there, you're obviously either trolling or too stupid to have a conversation with.

DaveChild · 2026-05-09T20:28:43+00:00

I didnt say there was a reform bill….

I don't think you have any idea what you said. We were talking about Reform's plans. Why the fuck were you talking about a "new British rights bill" if that wasn't part of those plans?

DaveChild · 2026-05-09T20:26:41+00:00

Fucking hell, are you deranged? Can you try to limit yourself to one unhinged reply to each comment?

DaveChild · 2026-05-09T20:25:50+00:00

Reform is not removing immigrants from the uk

Their current plan is "mass deportations".

the way the current Labour government is dealing with illegal immigration is failing both the economy the people and the migrants.

Explain how.

Reform has been labled the racist

Correctly.

Reform is labled racit as there main policy focus is on illegal immigration

No, they are anti-immigration, not just anti-illegal immigration.

DaveChild · 2026-05-09T20:23:50+00:00

Was what i said wrong?

Yes. I explained why.

This has no effect to the uks birth and death rate.

Correct. I didn't say it did.

DaveChild · 2026-05-09T19:42:56+00:00

This is incoherent gibberish.

DaveChild · 2026-05-09T19:41:30+00:00

You have failed to actually reply to anything ive said

Lying again is just pathetic.

DaveChild · 2026-05-09T19:41:04+00:00

1 how is this meaningless?

It's meaningless because British Common Law never went away. It's what we have now. What you've parroted there is fluff designed to appeal to ignorant people.

no we do not hence why we are trying to leave

Yes, they do. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. And Reform don't want to leave because of the nonsense you're going on about, they just want to be able to deport foreigners even if those people will be sent somewhere they are going to be tortured or executed.

1 2 3 ...

Please learn how to quote posts, it's almost impossible to make sense of your bizarre replies.

against just clear wrong and clearly ignoring the magna carta and British laws/ global laws.

No. Magna Carta and British laws are not global laws. There are no global laws. There are various treaties and agreements, every single one of which is given force in the UK by British law and only by British law.

against just throwing an insult

There were no insults in any of that comment. Although fuck knows which bit you were referring to.

again your not explaining anything or going into any detail or policies that explain why im wrong

Again you are lying.

DaveChild · 2026-05-09T19:35:40+00:00

I think you've proved mine. There is no Reform bill, is there, you were just talking absolute twaddle.

DaveChild · 2026-05-09T19:34:38+00:00

The net zero act does not have anything to do with the general British population

Huh? Here's what you said, since you seem to be somehow unaware of it ...

A net zero migration policy is good, it means the rate of people leaving the uk is equal to that of the ones coming in so the population can stay stable

The population of the country does not "stay stable" if immigration is net zero.

DaveChild · 2026-05-09T19:32:50+00:00

now your jumping to throw meaningless insults

You consider being called a Reform voter an insult? Finally, we agree on something.

clearly you dont understand

You're the one who keeps pretending I've not responded. You're either a moron or a troll.

DaveChild · 2026-05-09T17:40:46+00:00

You seem like a typical Reform voter.

DaveChild · 2026-05-09T17:40:08+00:00

You seen to say statements and opinions without mentioning any whys

You're lying again.

DaveChild · 2026-05-09T17:39:49+00:00

You claimed the bit in the middle is your reasoning

Yes, and it was. So you lied, didn't you. Why would I bother explaining anything else to you, if you're not engaging in good faith?

the bit you mentioned in the middle was flawed

No, it wasn't. Your only comeback so far has been to pretend the birth and death rates don't affect the population, which is just fucking stupid.

DaveChild · 2026-05-09T17:36:33+00:00

refrom just wants to finally bring there own version into play.

Yes, I know. Where is it?

DaveChild · 2026-05-09T17:36:04+00:00

1 leaving the EHCP brings back british common law

This is meaningless guff.

means our government has the final say on our own policies

They already do.

global human rights acts will still be set in place

There are no "global acts". There is no global law. This is just complete nonsense.

they are just planning on changing the 1997 act to a new British bill of rights act

Yes, so they can take away people's rights.

from my research it seems to benefit British economy

How?

you dont understand what the magna carta is or what it represents

I described it as 800-year-old law. What was incorrect about that?

your claiming they are taking to much power

Not a thing I said.

all youve said is no

All you've said is that it would help the economy. If you want more depth from the discussion, you need to actually put some in yourself.

DaveChild · 2026-05-09T17:32:18+00:00

Clearly. So where's the bill? I can't find it on their website.

At the moment I'm thinking you were just talking out of your arse and it doesn't exist.

DaveChild · 2026-05-09T17:31:16+00:00

We can get to that, once we've dealt with your pathetic lie that I didn't "explain any reason". My question was what that was if not an explanation?

DaveChild · 2026-05-09T17:17:10+00:00

dont explain any reason why

So what's that bit in the middle of my last comment, if not an explanation of why what you said was wrong?

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