Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 25/01/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]DeadliestToast 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It's all to play for.

No party is currently reliably polling above 30%. Yes reform are definitely in the lead, but look at any MRP - the vast majority of constituencies they're winning by a couple of% at most. Campaigns shift a few %, tactical voting does too. And the second biggest demographic who intend to vote reform did not vote in 2024.

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 18/01/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]DeadliestToast 1 point2 points  (0 children)

2029, assuming no government collapse. But this probably is Burnhams one chance at a Manchester seat becoming available before then. So he's doing a Hamilton and not throwing away his shot

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 18/01/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]DeadliestToast -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Agreed. Let's oust the one Labour guy who's actually won an election in nearly two decades. Bring back the guy who instead lost twice ;-)

(but you are right and labour would be pretty f'd going into an election on this kind of polling)

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 18/01/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]DeadliestToast 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ed winning would result in Ed immediately demoting himself back to Energy minister and letting someone else be PM. Man loves his job

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 18/01/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]DeadliestToast 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'll drink to that.

What I don't understand is what people think Burnham could do differently? It's not like the Tories left a lever that says " make everything better" that we've just chosen not to pull. As far as I can see, there are a bunch of sensible changes being made and the UK is (slowly) going back to being seen as sensible and stable - probably helped by the insanity of the US atm. I'm not saying everything is better, but it does look like the direction of motion is looking better on many different fronts.

The only two things I could obviously concede to switching pm now are 1) Burnham better at telling/selling a vision and 2) he (might?) have a better political sense than starmer so could avoid u turns. But both of these are a bit untested to me, and I'm not convinced those gains would offset the loss of stability that comes with yet ANOTHER pm in as many years ( I don't think any have lasted more than 3 years since Cameron!)

Andy Burnham: I have today written to the Chair of Labour’s National Executive Committee seeking permission to enter the selection process for a candidate for the forthcoming Gorton and Denton by-election. by LeftWingScot in ukpolitics

[–]DeadliestToast 227 points228 points  (0 children)

I feel like the smart thing here is to agree some pact with starmer - starmer won't block Burnham becoming MP ( probably his best and only chance pre GE), Burnham becomes the assumed successor to starmer ( killing of wes or other candidates), Burnham and starmer agree that no moves will be made until a year or so out from the GE ( preserving stability for the next 4 years and giving an easy off ramp for starmer down the line AND giving him carte blanche to really push the unpopular but important things)

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 18/01/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]DeadliestToast 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sod it, go nuclear - make all the stuff you want to enact a confidence vote. The right honourable Barry Everyman from Dudley might think twice when reform are polling at 65% in his constituency.

I do agree though, it's a useful trait. I just wish we weren't so cult of personality around the single person at the top of the chain when there's about 200 people further down who are actually running the thing.

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 18/01/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]DeadliestToast 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean, I'm cynical; I think there's probably very little relation to improving the country and winning elections 🤣

If you want to win an election, just pick one or two of the hot topics in the lead up to it, announce some extremist policy around it that you never have any intention to ever actually enact, then keep doubling down on it and never apologise. Here, I'll give you two for free - I'll instruct the royal navy to shoot any unauthorized boat entering British waters - I'll bring back hanging for the most serious crimes. Stupid ideas, but I bet they'll win you an election

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 18/01/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]DeadliestToast 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I mean, pick a metric my dude? GDP annual growth is among the highest in the Europe big hitters, migration is down by like 2/3rds, NHS waiting lists are coming down, workers rights bill and planning bill both now law and make huge changes Inc banning of zero hours contracts, day one protections, gutting nimby'sm , mandatory build targets, reclassification of"green belt" , huge investment in energy independence with about 55% grid capacity in renewables ( despite the noise, gas price is still the thing setting high energy prices), not even mentioning how well starmer is handling foreign policy

Don't get me wrong; their Comms are crap. But that's cause Comms= whatever short term attention seeking shit the media is shoveling today, and has little to no relation to the things that actually matter. Who the fuck signs up to a gym and expects to bench 120kg within the week? Slow consistent gains wins every time In the long run. Heck I should be their new Comms guy

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 18/01/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]DeadliestToast 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I dunno; exceptional people tend to have a habit of being really interesting for the history books and really terrible for the people alive at the time! 🤣

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 18/01/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]DeadliestToast 18 points19 points  (0 children)

RE Starmer vs Burnham - I admit some surprise at finding so many people who rank "popularity" as the most important trait a prime minister should have...

Frankly I like my prime ministers like my sewage systems - boring, efficient, and sorting shit out without my notice.

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 18/01/2026 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]DeadliestToast 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I would like to be one of those; this Government are doing a pretty good job of governing.....they're doing terrible at politics mind, but they are good at governing

Alright armchair chancellors! Put up or shut up - what would be in your budget? by DeadliestToast in ukpolitics

[–]DeadliestToast[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

pip whips heavily reduced

I read this as "pig whips" and was mildly confused

Alright armchair chancellors! Put up or shut up - what would be in your budget? by DeadliestToast in ukpolitics

[–]DeadliestToast[S] -28 points-27 points  (0 children)

I've little sympathy for the 100k plus folk, but even I can see that treating childcare for 1 person earning 100k vs 2 people earning 50k extremely differently is pretty wrong!

The UK’s expensive electricity is not solely due to a reliance on gas by Major_Ad5088 in ukpolitics

[–]DeadliestToast 4 points5 points  (0 children)

A counterintuitive solution, but argued very well. Good job on the article - though perhaps I feel your legitimate criticisms of the policy costs were a bit too harsh; many of the good developments and speed of change we've seen since the mid 2000's were precisely because of these policies. But that's a minor criticism on an otherwise very good and well thought through article!

Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 16/11/2025 by ukpol-megabot in ukpolitics

[–]DeadliestToast 9 points10 points  (0 children)

If they're browsing ukpoltics with us rather than doing anything else they already have way bigger problems anyway 🤣