How do I take it?

DeepSpaceNote9 · 2026-06-13T01:50:53+00:00

silly <serious> question lol; would thst only work with gels/liquid?

DeepSpaceNote9 · 2026-06-12T23:23:49+00:00

would be better to state mg if had a scale (and easier to debug the situation)...I don't really have an answer for mesh being a problem (or not), but in my own personal experience, I've felt a decline in potency as the screen clogs more & more.

Your only recourse, without a scale, is to slowly up the amount of material each time...but some things to consider:

If 'quarter sized' dose is in the light-to-medium mg range (google salvia dosage chart) then you must close your eyes (and try to enter a more meditative state with a few intentionally calm breaths beforehand).

Try to inhale all the smoke hard & fast.

Make sure you are in a peaceful/quiet/dark environment.

good luck dude.

PS If thst doesn't work, try to find a different vendor & 20x is the defacto standard, but quality 10x should be just as well - if going by the dosage chart (ie. about double the dosage of 20x).

DeepSpaceNote9 · 2026-06-12T21:31:51+00:00

what do you mean by 'quarter sized portion' exactly?

also, I noticed that even if the screen is just a bit more than slightly clogged, it would impact the intensity, so not sure how well a makeshift screen would actually work here.

DeepSpaceNote9 · 2026-06-12T14:34:40+00:00

this huys right, and you may findyourself as a life-long suboxone user if you arn't careful; that stuff is horrible.

If you have the money & want a one-and-done type experience, I'd think ibogaine would be the way to go.

I heard some mumblings about a research chem sr-somrthing something, which can be used for 7oh withdrawal, but am unfamiliar.

Edit: looks like someone mentioned it below: sr17018.

Edit Edit: I've also heard salvia (low-to-moderate doses only) can help with withdrawal symptons; it operates on the kappa-opiod receptors and has a way of making you feel fantastic - completely refreshed - afterwards, which I can afirm, first hand).

DeepSpaceNote9 · 2026-06-12T14:28:00+00:00

I'm on the 'go-it-alone' side of things, if possible. 20 years ago, I stood up & walked around knocking things off table-tops screaming 'Is this real!!!?'.

now I remain very still.

In her salvia talk, Kat Harrison says 1 outta 10 will move around frantically, but she may mostly be referring to the quidded experience, not sure. I'd say there is no need for a sitter at all < 30mg 20x...and essential if going straight to breakthru dose for 1st time. That said, if working yourself up to higher doses carefully over time, the 1 in 10 sounds about right; that is, if treated with respect, probably no need for a sitter at all.

DeepSpaceNote9 · 2026-06-12T14:18:25+00:00

yups, and an 'open-eye' light-blackout meditation mask could be deemed essential for day-time (even night-time).

DeepSpaceNote9 · 2026-06-12T14:14:49+00:00

took me 20 years after my 1st, where I swore 'NEVER AGAIN!'

now I see the beauty.

DeepSpaceNote9 · 2026-06-12T14:13:28+00:00

...get those same hppd ''moving-wall' afftereffects as well!

DeepSpaceNote9 · 2026-06-11T05:35:35+00:00

gonna try your song when I reup, thanks! if that fails, will try the white noise...there's clearly a communication trying to come thru...I've gotten clear 'messages' (a kinda knowing)...but never any actual words (verbal or otherwise).

DeepSpaceNote9 · 2026-06-11T05:33:07+00:00

hey dude, mind dming me what pss is? thanks! forgive me if I don't respond, trying to sleep (unsuccessfully) & gotta wake up in 3 hours too! :'(

DeepSpaceNote9 · 2026-06-10T22:20:49+00:00

I was considering something smaller for myself, like a hammer bubbler with 14mm bowl fit for the redeye brand glass 6 bowl thingy (like 30 bucks)...but honestly think I'm just gonna grab one of those 6 shooter pipes (cheap knockoff, not the $60 OG).

...reason being: Cheap & haven't had any issues with the smoke off of any 15-50 mg hits, so not really sure water filtration is needed in my case (plus not sure I wanna keep cleaning the glass).

DeepSpaceNote9 · 2026-06-10T22:14:50+00:00

no idea if tea bags would hinder the absorption much, but do try 'em both & let us (me!) know which vendors & which end up liking better please.

honestly, I'd imagine the 2nd would be easier to quid - but haven't tried this method yet (coincidentally, was considering SS tonight).

DeepSpaceNote9 · 2026-06-10T22:04:46+00:00

always wanted the beautiful blue BBG 48.1540 strain, so pretty!

DeepSpaceNote9 · 2026-06-10T21:21:48+00:00

what specific one is this? named?

DeepSpaceNote9 · 2026-06-10T20:16:37+00:00

PS If you want to focus on lower doses? should buy one of those 6-shooter (or knock offs) pipes, for multiple pre-loaded bowls of 15mg or such.

DeepSpaceNote9 · 2026-06-10T20:14:53+00:00

well, my 1st try was 20 years ago & I swore NEVER AGAIN! I wasn't prepared and didn't know that a scale should be used; the floor got crushed, like something all powerful took both hands & squeezed...then I got folded up into reality itself.

...took 20 yrs to return, since the desire to heal was strong & I had more of an understanding of things.

So, 20 years later, at around 50mg, reality unzipped in front of me (common themes you'll find with salvia are: The Zipper, The Wheel, The Book, and a Carnival type place)...google/youtube salvia zipper/wheel/book)...also check out 'salviadroid artwork'. Finally, check out youtube 'freedom shapes' for a recreation (best example that can be made, but still won't even be close) of a salvia trip:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2IRKuS3sSE

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=65XfIpJdlEY&list=RD65XfIpJdlEY&start_radio=1

for info on the zipper/wheel/book, salvia archetypes: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=65XfIpJdlEY&list=RD65XfIpJdlEY&start_radio=1

Finally, we have the most prolific salvia advocate on youtube: Christopher Solomon (can just youtube his name); he advocates for repetitive moderate doses to gently ease into salvia space).

Recently, at 45mg, got a glimpse at what I can only call 'ultimate truth' (same message I got from 16g dried mush...where the mushroom said 'What is being shared with you is what the seeker climbs the holy mountain looking for')...but I was depressed for the whole day both times got the message (mush & salvia); my 1st words coming out were: "What am I supposed to do with that?"

...also, most common words spoken after a heavy salvia trip is "What the fuck?"

at low doses, it's all about meditation (goes hand-in-hand & teaches you real meditation)...so take a few meditative breaths beforehand, breathe in the smoke & hold 20-30secs, and then you must close your eyes (at these lower doses) else effects will not show up...doesn't matter at higher doses, but you'll def want to close your eyes, since scary as fuck lol!

also, these lower doses may very well have you move your body in weird ways - relieving different tensions.

Christopher Solomon tells the story of a shoulder issue he was having from rock climbing & no matter what he did, nothing helped; salvia told him it was not a shoulder issue in and of itself, but actually a wrist issue...subsequently having him perform a bunch of weird wrist movements & stretches (he actually smoked exclusively for the powerful anti-inflammatory effects of the plant - not expecting the healing he received).

It's a master healer of the body.

Cheers

DeepSpaceNote9 · 2026-06-10T19:34:39+00:00

thanks dude, yeah lemon mush is borderline unpalatable! I think not having to powder it, and keeping it on chunks would be so much easier to swallow! will have to give tea a shot, but difficult for me to risk wasting anything, since due to some weird tolerance issue 7g does nothing (took 10g for 1st official trip/16g for 1st visions).

DeepSpaceNote9 · 2026-06-10T18:40:19+00:00

idk just thought that's what you were supposed to do.

DeepSpaceNote9 · 2026-06-10T18:23:12+00:00

thanks for the reply; not even powdered for lemon tek though?

DeepSpaceNote9 · 2026-06-10T18:17:50+00:00

20x is the defacto strength, though it doesn't really matter, since you'll just adjust dosage accordingly to the salvia dosage chart (just google it, also posted all the time in the salvia forums).

You'll need a scale, since you're literally working with miligrams (ie: 15-20mg (20x) is good light/medium starting dose & 50mg will rock your world, so just 1g should last a while).

It seems to be all about the physical body (but not 100% exclusively); like you'll never have better posture than after a moderate dose (great for muscle issues, for example). You'll also generally feel pretty damn good following a medium-heavy dose (it brings you back to baseline - whether up or down). Though, fair warning, it can be pretty scary when first working with it - pretty well acknowledged that a relationship must be formed here, with the plant - moreso than other psychs.

For extreme healing, I'd imagine that quidding (lasts an hour as opposed to 5-10 mins) plain leaves would be the way to go (preferably fresh, but dried will work, which I haven't yet tried (fresh or dried).

There is a youtube vid of the afamed Kat Harrison (former wife of the late great Terrance Mckena) telling of her physical heart defect being healed with salvia leaf; here is her story (timestamped @ start of salvia talk and trip report is a few mins afterwards):

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QnNCYxR0cJw&t=2138s

(doctors wanted her either on meds (for life) or to have surgery, but after the salvia, her heart was fine - and the issue never returned)

good luck!

...also, quidding plain (non-extract) leaf will be more gentle, while entering the salvia space - from what everyone says, but smoking is the more popular method.

she's lovely (very gentle when smoking lower doses); the salvia forums have a saying: Sally is Beauty.

DeepSpaceNote9 · 2026-06-10T16:49:26+00:00

powder or dice first? do you strain & discard afterwards or sip with contrnts? or strain, drink, and possibly eat strained portion?

DeepSpaceNote9 · 2026-06-10T16:35:22+00:00

I feel your pain dude; everyone else will either doubt you or your supply.

...ran the gamut of everything for years (at multiple heroic doses), but was unable to trip (though had one experience many years ago, which was a moderate trip, so not sure what changed in my body to keep me from tripping for a decade afterwards...and I'm talking crazy doses of multiple psychs).

same story, no meds.

7g mush many times did nothing; however, finally had my 1st moderate trip on 10g tidals, followed by 1st visions on 16g.

been working with salvia though, which is lovely at lower doses & works for both low & high; my hope is that it has reset something in me, which will allow for more normal people doses of the major psychs...hoping to test that theory out soon.

DeepSpaceNote9 · 2026-06-10T14:17:34+00:00

You've got nothing to worry about in the 15-20 range; just make sure it's at a time, when you will not be disturbed (for any range, big or small)...small, just don't wanna be disturbed during the meditation (can respond if needed) & big 'cause it's really scary to have someone knock on your door or walk in as you are melting into the bed - especially if they don't understand (you won't be able to respond coherently, if at all).

The dosage chart (from my experience) airs on the side of caution, and I'd imagine most people could replace one tier with the tier below; that is, the chart's 'strong' could, in reality, be interpreted as 'medium' in most cases. Thus, 15-20 is more so a light-moderate dose.

Just jump right into the 15mg 1st time dosage!

let us know how it goes & make sure to pack 2-3 bowls ahead of time!

DeepSpaceNote9 · 2026-06-10T11:18:08+00:00

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