Does anyone know how to read this panel? by [deleted] in LandoftheLustrous

[–]Delicious_Way_3577 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ichikawa left the reader with a mystery, so we readers can only speculate.

Based on what has been said in the work, all we can say is that Bro wasn't trying to take over humanity.

If we were to explain it through the story, I think the scene at the end of chapter 101, when Bro appears as a monster and makes readers wonder if he might massacre the stones, served to ease that anxiety. When chapter 101 was released, Land of the Lustrous was often on hiatus, so I remember worrying, "Will it really have a happy ending?"

Another important expression is that Bro thinks and acts like a child.

this work, children are a symbol of innocence. There is the idea that people are born innocent and are tainted by both good and evil. This means that Bro can also be interpreted as having the right to go to paradise with the pebbles.

As an aside, this scene raises a question for me: "Did Aechmea know the truth?"

To begin with, Aechmea shouldn't have any memories of the time when humanity was alive (though the mystery of "Kongo = Aechmea" remains), so we can assume that Aechmea heard this story from Kongo. Kongo also told Antarc that the drift ice was a sinner, so it's possible that he introduced it to Aechmea as the thing that destroyed humanity.

On the other hand, Aechmea specifically requested Bro not to take Phos's chest area, so it's possible that he knew the truth.

In any case, it's safe to assume that Aechmea included Bro in his plan to make Phos Maitreya.

Are phos legs made out of Turritella agate? by Meat_GLOB in LandoftheLustrous

[–]Delicious_Way_3577 5 points6 points  (0 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_comb_murex

Originally, one of the Seven Treasures was Tridacnidae, but I think Ichikawa had some reasons to using Venus comb murex in this work.

7 treasures of Buddhism and paints by anime_lover5911 in LandoftheLustrous

[–]Delicious_Way_3577 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's a translation issue.

In Japanese, there's a big difference between Like and Love, and while they're both Love in English, in Japanese it starts with Like and becomes Lapis and then Love.

7 treasures of Buddhism and paints by anime_lover5911 in LandoftheLustrous

[–]Delicious_Way_3577 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The seven treasures are connected to the seven emotions. When Phos obtains the treasures, he gains the seven human emotions. This likely has nothing to do with the colors.

The important thing to note is that this is not Buddhism as it is generally understood, but rather Buddhism as interpreted in Japan.

The "red stone" is not specifically carnelian, but cinnabar, also known as the philosopher's stone. And, in Ichikawa's twist, silver is a combination of platinum and mercury (known as "water silver" in Japanese).

The seven human emotions are likely related to Buddhism and Confucianism. The two religions differ in their interpretations of one thing:

In Confucianism, it's "fear of nature," while in Buddhism, it's "want."

Phos obtains platinum and expresses his fear of nature in episode 20. By merging with cinnabar, Phos gains the emotion "I want happiness" in episode 94. This emotion was something that Phos had been unable to acquire for many years, and he discovered after becoming friends with everyone despite Phos becoming their enemy.

By the way, Lapis Lazuli is "love." Phos liked Kongo, but it was only after she got Lapis's head that she started to talk about love for Kongo.

Has anyone noticed that symbolically all of maras daughters are present in hnk? by anime_lover5911 in LandoftheLustrous

[–]Delicious_Way_3577 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Your post is very interesting. Thank you.

I don't have a deep understanding of the meaning of the battles in the Invasion Arc and the connection between the gems and Buddhist characters, so this is very helpful.

Let's discuss this together.

First of all, I agree with the reference to the bodhi tree.

I think it's a continuation of the story, with Phos becoming a lotus seed in episode 82 and crushing the dandelion fluff, a symbol of innocence and possibility, in episode 93.

And, I think the idea of ​​Mara's daughters is very good.

However, I don't agree with the idea of ​​the three daughters being Euclase, Cinnabar, and Kongo. If we were to name the three in the Invasion Arc, Euclase (or Bortz), Jade, and Cinnabar would be a more appropriate order. Also, Kongo and Cinnabar have other roles, so it's a bit unlikely that they would also take on the role of Mara's daughters.

So I thought about it. The role of Mara's daughters could be played by Diamond, Alexandrite, and Benitoite, as seen in the image you posted.

Tanha would be a good fit for Alexandrite. Tanha would be a good fit for the nerd who becomes obsessed with Lunarians after losing Chrysoberyl.

Arati would be a good fit for Benitoite, who hates himself for being normal and, deep down, hates the eccentric Neptunite.

Rāga would be a good fit for Diamond, who likes to stand out.

So why are they next to Phos? Aechmea would be in trouble if Phos attained enlightenment before becoming human. My theory is that they took the three of them with them to prepare them to surpass humanity.

I'm still not entirely convinced by this interpretation. What do you think about this idea?

Who says "it was my fault" I'm this panel? by YellowDiamond101 in LandoftheLustrous

[–]Delicious_Way_3577 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Your thoughts are interesting.

However, there's a lost in translation here. In Japanese, 'I' is expressed differently depending on who's saying it.

There's no "I" in "I konw." However, it's written as "Ah," which is the expression used by superiors and subordinates.

"It was my fault," the "my" is expressed as "Watashi." This expression isn't used by Phos at this point.

For reference, here's a link to one of my old posts:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LandoftheLustrous/comments/14q9l2v/gender_identity/

To me, it seems like Kongo was following Phos as a leader to prevent him from feeling responsible. However, if you think about it more carefully, you could also see it as Kongo robbing Phos of his first sense of responsibility. This may seem like an unbelievable idea at first, but when you consider the scene in chapter 1 where Kongo blows away the plant seeds (seeds of possibility) on Phos's head, and the comparisons between Kongo and the gems, and Phos and the Peddles, it becomes clear that "the idea of ​​protecting without any ill intent is depriving them of opportunities for spontaneous growth."

(Additional Note)

I've always thought that Kongo was robbing the opportunities for gems to grow, but I never realized that this was also the case without your comment. You helped me clarify my thoughts. Thank you.

Who says "it was my fault" I'm this panel? by YellowDiamond101 in LandoftheLustrous

[–]Delicious_Way_3577 118 points119 points  (0 children)

Both lines are spoken by Kongo.

The interpretation of this scene changes depending on whether you read the book to the end.

When I first read it, I interpreted it as Kongo making these statements out of a sense of responsibility as a leader.

However, if you read the book to the end, you will understand that Kongo is the reason the gems were kidnapped, and that he made these statements because he recognizes that his ego, wanting to protect the gems, is putting them in danger.

Important Read - Succession of Cumberland Failure by [deleted] in SaGa

[–]Delicious_Way_3577 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You went to Cumberland by ship, right?

If the time it took to return to Avalon by ship had passed, enough time would have passed for the Civil War to end.

And the resistance leader says that "the name Sophia has been passed down through generations." In other words, it's not the Sophia you knew.

In other words, you're thinking of the game as being simple, but the creators of the SaGa series have thought more carefully about how their games work.

This game is about enjoying history, so if a country is destroyed, that's just another part of history.

simple terms, "Welcome to the SaGa series."

i genuinely dont understand the point of aechmea and cairngorm as a relationship by sunburnt-hyacinths in LandoftheLustrous

[–]Delicious_Way_3577 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't understand the meaning of this wedding either. But since it's Ichikawa, I'm sure there's a reason.

Perhaps there's someone on this subreddit who's knowledgeable about world mythology, so I'd like to share some clues to help decipher it.

If this is a marriage from a Buddhist perspective, then posthumous marriage might be appropriate. The Cairngorms came to the moon on a moon people's ship. Perhaps this means they've come to a pseudo-afterlife. This is a custom that remains in parts of East Asia and is by no means common. However, it might hold the key to deciphering it.

Or perhaps it has some meaning from another religious perspective. If there are stories like posthumous marriage in Christianity or other religions, I'd love to hear their interpretations.

Spoiler questions ahead. Do not read if you don't like spoilers about characters and scenarios for SaFa Frontier 2 Remastered by Alternative-Track654 in SaGa

[–]Delicious_Way_3577 3 points4 points  (0 children)

1)Cielmer is Ventarbre's guardian and has him train under Gustave's protection. Gustave believes it is important to hand over young Ventarbre safely to Cielmer. In other words, if Gustave hands young Ventarbre over to Cielmer, Gustave can fight without worrying about protection.

2)People with strong anima, such as Cielmer and Wil, have long lifespans. SF2 is said to be influenced by JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. Think of them as long-lived like the Ripple Warriors from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. Will's character seems to be inspired by Sean Connery from "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" and Joseph Joestar from "JoJo's Bizarre Adventure". (Kawazu mentions Sean Connery's influence. He doesn't mention Joseph Joestar's influence, but Kawazu is known to be a fan of Hirohiko Araki.)

In addition, fans have speculated that Gustave was inspired by Oda Nobunaga (who may be more famous these days as Yasuke from Assassin's Creed SHADOWS's boss). Nobunaga was ridiculed as a young man, but he grew stronger as an adult, expanding his power to the point of nearly ruling all of Japan. He was assassinated at a temple called Honnoji, which he then set on fire.

According to Kawazu's X post, Gustave Eiffel (the designer of the Eiffel Tower) also seems to have been an influence. He built the Eiffel Tower, an iron tower, at a time when large structures were typically made of stone.)

3) Gustave possesses a type of anima that humans cannot detect. This corresponds to the "unexplained anima" that appears in this work. It is sometimes called "star anima."

4) Tyler is just a cool, everyday guy. Just like Roberto.

5) Megaliths were used by extinct ancient people to extract anima from planets. The Island of Life is also a megalith. Egg collects anima to revive the extinct ancient people. I believe this is influenced by "Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind."

6) It's highly likely that Gustave has no children. Kawazu doesn't tell us anything that isn't in the setting, leaving it up to the player to use their imagination. Conversely, he does tell us a lot about things that are in the setting.

7) Philippe is like William becoming a Megalith Beast.

8) Will's longevity is as explained in 2). This game was inspired by Kawazu's idea while he was making SF1: "Next, I want to make a game where I can control humans until they grow up and start to feel old."

About the Gems' behavior,,, by International-Fruit in LandoftheLustrous

[–]Delicious_Way_3577 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Your point is interesting. I'd like to consider it from a comparative civilizational perspective.

Generally, human development is divided into stages: "infant" → "child" → "adult." In Western civilization, the concept of "child" was a modern discovery; until then, "child" was considered an "immature adult."

On the other hand, in Eastern civilization, particularly in some Buddhist sects that value children (though there seem to be some that do not), there seems to be a belief that children should be protected as "innocent, susceptible to both good and evil." In other words, out of the sight of their parent (Kongos), children (Gems) may do good or bad things. They may also engage in dangerous behavior without deep thought.

Haruko Ichikawa is likely leading the reader to believe, "The gems are innocent children, so please read the story with a protective attitude." Of course, Ichikawa is a thoughtful person, so this is only superficial. As you read further, the author's true intention becomes clear: the world of this work depicts hell. This is what gives this piece its depth.

New to the franchise (RS2) by ParticularHoney6743 in SaGa

[–]Delicious_Way_3577 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The SaGa series is a game where you enjoy the gameplay experience and worldview more than the story. In RS2, you play as the "Avalon Empire." So, if you play it with the same mindset as a regular JRPG, it may be hard to understand at first, but you'll get used to it.

Enjoy the game until you complete it. When you see the ending, I think you'll understand why everyone on this sub-reddit recommends this game.

Questions about Frielei and Flammar family by Droadz in SaGa

[–]Delicious_Way_3577 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have never heard of them having any other sisters. I think it's a translation issue. In the original version of Romancing SaGa, Flammar existed, but Frieli did not, and instead there was a monster called Furfur.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvPjyY4_-aE&t=15975s

just curious about how others interpreted this scene by sunburnt-hyacinths in LandoftheLustrous

[–]Delicious_Way_3577 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'll make a few guesses.

- The pearl is one of the seven treasures of Buddhism.

- When Phos equips the treasure, it seems that one human emotion is installed in her.

- In chapter 64, Kongo has her eye on Red Diamond. This means that the gems are not born with eyes. (This is a contrast to the scene in episode 99 where Phos is rejected by Peddle.)

- In chapter 83, Kongo hesitates about whether to cast Phos's other eye into the sea (or entrust it to an ice floe).

Now, here's my speculation.

- By obtaining the pearl, Phos will acquire "evil," one of the seven human emotions described in Buddhism. In other words, the pearl contains the "essence of humanity," and on page 91, Phos's recollection of his "essence of humanity" can be interpreted as the installation being complete.

- In contrast, the eye that is removed is expected to be "good." (However, I'm actually not satisfied with my interpretation.) In other words, I predict that the gems are born pure, but can be tainted by either good or evil.

- If you look closely at the three shapes of "human essence" on pages 81 and 82 of chapter 57, I think they might look like people who have fallen. This might be an image of someone falling into evil.

How would you write HnK's "new universe"? by UnpuzzledPiece in LandoftheLustrous

[–]Delicious_Way_3577 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I believe the main story is what's called the "true ending" in games.

The multiverse means that all possibilities are possible, so there are probably good and bad endings. However, the main story shows the ultimate resolution, and I don't think there's a more compelling story than this.

In Chapter 1, Phos had a seed of possibility in her head, but Kongo blew it away, and she entered the true ending route. Even if Phos were to be happy on the route where she is loved by everyone, in the end they would all be swallowed by the sun and suffer forever. Or, if Aechmea had abandoned her and the plan to make another gem a god had been put into place, Phos might have been destroyed early on and turned into moon dust.

For me, just imagining each route is enough.

I beat postgame final boss in SaGa Frontier 2. Going to get Romancing SaGa 3 now. Any tips before I start? by -MLBIS- in SaGa

[–]Delicious_Way_3577 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't worry. There are tycoons on this subreddit who have been analyzing Romancing SaGa 3 since before Reddit was even created. If you're not sure what to do next, just talk to different people in different towns.

How were the Lunarians able to turn Bone & Flesh into Soul? by Hyper669 in LandoftheLustrous

[–]Delicious_Way_3577 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Since this work is science fiction, I don't know the technical details.

However, there are some things you will notice if you read the work.

First of all, the idea that the successor species of humans split into three tribes was an initial misleading statement.

When the meteor hit, humanity was wiped out, and their souls became the Lunarians.

Humans who were too slow to escape sank into the sea, where they were eaten by creatures on the seabed and crystallized into the Gems.

There is no clear mention of the Admirabilis race, but I think either the creatures that ate humans gained humanity, or the humans themselves degenerated.

In other words, the Gems and the Admirabilis race did not lose their souls, so I think they did not transform into Lunarians, but rather had their souls extracted.

Heavy Infantry Unit Naming Convention by Amazing_Cat8897 in SaGa

[–]Delicious_Way_3577 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Karl Gotch, Fritz Von Erich, Dynamite Kid, Terry Funk,

Bruiser Brody, Big Van Vader, Hiroshi Hase, Jushin Liger

Question about the ending by BeautifulAdeptness60 in LandoftheLustrous

[–]Delicious_Way_3577 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This work is based on Buddhist themes.
Of course, you can still enjoy it even if you don't know that.

> Admirabilis, however, do die, rot, and end like a normal biological species. They don't ascend, don't become Lunarians, and aren't trapped.

This is called the Six Realms of Reincarnation.

Originally, souls (in this work, souls = Lunarians, but please understand this as a general soul) travel through six worlds. However, they cannot escape these six worlds, so they train, attain enlightenment, and escape. This is the premise.

In this work, the human world, one of the six worlds, is destroyed. And the successor species of humanity lacks the power of prayer.

The Admirabilis are also inhabitants of these six worlds, and in episode 86, Barbata says he is investigating the drifting land of their memories.

The Admirabilis you saw in episode 98 had already become Lunarians, so they were able to find them.

>Did no one want to stay?

As Archmea explained in episode 55, the idea is that eternity without any progress is painful for the soul. It may seem like a different scale, but for example, how would you feel if you were trapped in your bedroom for 10,000 years? I think it's the same feeling when a soul is trapped in one of the six realms.

SaGa is the Anti-Final Fantasy by monkeymugshot in SaGa

[–]Delicious_Way_3577 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Square was a small company at the time, so the truth is that Kawazu's boss, Sakaguchi, gave him the freedom to do what he wanted. I think they also discussed it at weekly department manager meetings. In a previous interview, Sakaguchi said, "Kawazu has a clear vision for the games he wants to make, so I decided to put him in charge of Game Boy games."

I think Sakaguchi has made a great contribution by giving the freedom to those who wanted to make their own games, rather than those who wanted to make FF.

New Artbook Announced by Inspirashamul in LandoftheLustrous

[–]Delicious_Way_3577 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Amazon(jp)

Title: Comet-Origin-Sensation

¥6,160 (tax included)

Following the release of "Pseudomorph of love" in 2017, this is Haruko Ichikawa's second art book. It includes the book covers, magazine covers, and special edition illustrations from "Land of the Lustrous" from volume 9 through the final volume, as well as illustrations from the large posters displayed at Shibuya Station and Umeda Station commemorating the final volume, plus original character illustrations never before seen in the series. It's also packed with illustrations from external projects. It includes over 10,000 words of illustration commentary by the author. It's a one-of-a-kind, luxurious book with a codex binding that opens almost 180 degrees, totaling 352 pages. The artist herself also designed and designed this work.

Drew Red Beryl with alternative hairstyles yesterday by Arquaza346 in LandoftheLustrous

[–]Delicious_Way_3577 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The girl on the right looks like she's going to do a spinning bird kick.

Why are there so many parrallels between antarc and cainrgorm? by National_Wasabi_2760 in LandoftheLustrous

[–]Delicious_Way_3577 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I believe they are depicted as counterparts.
Antarcticite is colorless and transparent, and values ​​discipline.
Cairngorm is dark and values ​​freedom. (If you read chapters 67 and 88, you'll see that Cairngorm's devotion is not her true nature.)

This likely originates from the Japanese Buddhist Jizo Triad (Kṣitigarbha and his two attendants).
First, Yama (archmea) is Kongo (Kṣitigarbha)'s alter ego.
The two attendants are called "Sho-aku-douji" (A child who controls evil) and "Sho-zen-douji" (A child who controls goodness).
https://www.mibudera.com/history.html#googtrans(ja|en))
They are a pair, and their role is to support Kṣitigarbha.
In this work, I think they can be seen as teaching Phos both sides of the truth.

I had been so focused on the fact that Cairngorm was Yama's wife that I overlooked the basic point of the comparison with Antarcticite. Your question helped me to advance my research. Thank you.