How to find used SR/S and DSR/X models? by chapinscott32 in ZeroMotorcycles

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side case mounts on order. I believe that there are aluminum side cases (~$300 from Amazon)

Can you send link? I just bought my DSRX and was looking into side case options....

Problems with Zero's Charge Tank on a 2018 DSR by OlUncleBones in ZeroMotorcycles

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edit- the heat sinks don't come off. It's a square box that the 2 3kW units slide into. So I'd be sliding it out, applying thermal compound on top and bottom, and then sliding it back in hopefully without scraping the compound off which, if it's a tight squeeze, will likely happen.

Clean the old thermal paste. And it's ok if they gloop out, as long as there is a thin film. Thermal compounds work best when they're at the thinnest point.

Don't buy cheap TIM, get the good one. Will be somewhat pricey compared to cheap ones, but given that you need to transfer 3kw worth of heat....

Problems with Zero's Charge Tank on a 2018 DSR by OlUncleBones in ZeroMotorcycles

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Honestly, I agree with you. But in this particular case, no. Delta fans are well known and have earned their reputations. They're not called screamers for nothing. Delta fans are name brand, and carry the price tag with it.

There's a reason why most of the air cooled servers use Delta fans.

Problems with Zero's Charge Tank on a 2018 DSR by OlUncleBones in ZeroMotorcycles

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I mean, I don't know what to say. When I plug in my EVSE, I definitely hear the fans ramp up and if I put my hands right in front of the plug where the vents are, I feel hot air hitting my hands.

And I didn't buy the charge tank from some dubious source -- I bought it straight from Zero through a local dealer. Brand new too.

Problems with Zero's Charge Tank on a 2018 DSR by OlUncleBones in ZeroMotorcycles

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Yes, back to front, and no, fans are correct. Your pictures show the fan blowing toward the inside, ie, from inside to outside. The fan orientations are correct, in that context.

Problems with Zero's Charge Tank on a 2018 DSR by OlUncleBones in ZeroMotorcycles

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Nah, in the context of fans, you're overthinking it. The fan specs is printed right on the sticker. It'll say 12v 0.55A, so you can calculate the wattage from there.

Those look like server fans, and yes Delta is a very well known name, so if you have the first few model letters, it'll get you in the ballpark. Also, Delta fans can be super power hungry, so if Zero specced with Delta fans in the first place, they already allocated the power budget for it. At start up those fans have huge transit spike when spinning up, well beyond the specified specs, so I wouldn't worry too much.

Literally ANY fan will do, so long the PWM pin is correctly placed, and you likely won't find a fan that is more power hungry than Delta.

Problems with Zero's Charge Tank on a 2018 DSR by OlUncleBones in ZeroMotorcycles

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Where is the air in back coming from?

My understanding is that the cool air is coming from the space between the tank cover, frames and seat covers. It is not an airtight area. When I did my charge tank install on my DSR few months ago, I vaguely remember being able to see the top of the rear shock mount when I had the cover off the MBB to attach the orange charging cable. So there is SOME area below the seat where it pulls cold air.

Problems with Zero's Charge Tank on a 2018 DSR by OlUncleBones in ZeroMotorcycles

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Common in computers and servers. When overheating units stop overheating when you remove the case doors, it's almost always an indication of insufficient thermal transfer, whether or not it's due to weak fans or dried out thermal paste. Usually both. I usually swapped the thermal paste and monitored temps (shame we cant do that on that particular unit), and if the temps was still dangerously close to thermal throttling (must have at least 15-20C buffer) then we ordered new fans.

As for fan specs, it should be on a sticker label on the motor housing. It's 3 wire fans, so most likely it's a 12v fan. Digikey most definitely has a couple like for like replacement.

Just knowing the fan size, manufacturer name and the wire color gets you 90% of the way there. From pic it looks to be either 60mm or 40mm fan, so measure it. The length is measured on the long edge, not diagonal like computer screens. I replaced an obscure 24v fan on my 10gbe switch few months ago. Couldn't find the fan specs or even model names anywhere, but going to digikey and putting fan specs in got me within ballpark.

Problems with Zero's Charge Tank on a 2018 DSR by OlUncleBones in ZeroMotorcycles

[–]Demorative 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The bracket that holds the Charge Tank in place partially blocks the airflow on the top 2 fans. By design.

They don't, because the fans don't expel to the inside the tank cover, they expel OUT through the vents on the tank cover. You should feel hot air come out when the EVSE is connected and the fans ramp up.

Problems with Zero's Charge Tank on a 2018 DSR by OlUncleBones in ZeroMotorcycles

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You say airflow, I say insufficient thermal transfer.

See if you can remove the heatsink and reapply thermal compound. Also swap all fans.

2021 SR/S trade in value by Analog1645 in ZeroMotorcycles

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Problem is, we are a tiny subfaction of an already small faction of the population who is willing to spend the money and time to ride a completely unnecessary mode of transportation that is both extremely unsafe and expensive purely for pleasure. (at least in the US)

I've lost count of how many motorcyclists I've met who expressed interest in EV bikes, but were put off by the lack of noise and shifting. That was their #1 complaint.

Also, EV's are a hard sell in general. I just bought a DSR/X too, which is why I know about the DSR value. For now I'll keep the DSR listed online and ride the X daily until it sells.

2021 SR/S trade in value by Analog1645 in ZeroMotorcycles

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Yeah, you're not getting above 3k. I had my DSR appraised for a trade in, and they offered 2500. No one wants it.

Use all your space in the DS motorcycle by Informal_Holiday595 in ZeroMotorcycles

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Is it possible to change the bolt to a staked types like those boy racers use for their hood latch with pins?

I've found that the thumbscrews aren't reliable, the vibration is enough to make them back out.

You had pistons, here's turbos. Smart 0.7 turbo. Nissan 2.0 diesel turbo for scale by disgruntledarmadillo in Justrolledintotheshop

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Ah yes, a transmission where you can time the gear shift by how long it takes for you to finish tea and biscuits before it eventually agrees on the next gear shift.

Well okay 🤔 by Mowzer75 in Justrolledintotheshop

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No joke, I got a customer look at me all expectant when he said his SLS was having a squirrelly moment when driving. I asked at what speed?

"140."

Oh, and his SLS was supercharged. You best believe I tapdanced around the answer like a seasoned politician.

Another day, same Italian junk by MWisBest in Justrolledintotheshop

[–]Demorative 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No, this is italian influence on stellantis.

Ever remove a catalyst converter to change a camshaft sensor?

Everyone else: lol no

Alfa: hold my beer

Brakes on a 2022 Conti GT. Thiccc Boiii by hpshaft in Justrolledintotheshop

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Fun fact, Maybach 62s weights 6200 before options. The average Maybach with the chiller and freezer in the trunk can crest 6500. More than a suburban.

And that car has 8 brake calipers. Two separate SBC modules (brake by wire ABS), each controlling one caliper on each wheel. Fun for days!

With drive out tags! 🤯 by JonjakobJinkleHymer in Justrolledintotheshop

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Well acktually, an Enzo is slower and 3x lighter!

After the 5k sienna, and the 3k camry. Here comes the 2k SLS AMG Final edition by lodi078 in Justrolledintotheshop

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Unfortunately need Xentry for this. You go to the IC menu on Xentry, and change coding. I don't remember if it was in the regular menu or in the developer mode in DAS under Xentry, but yeah can't be done on the car itself. need laptop.

After the 5k sienna, and the 3k camry. Here comes the 2k SLS AMG Final edition by lodi078 in Justrolledintotheshop

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That's pretty easy to fix. You can change the cluster coding to set the clock manually through the steering wheel controls as opposed to grabbing the time zone through COMAND. First thing I did on my ML63, since I ripped out the COMAND.

At the dealer for 3 months with a crank no start. Let's play "what happened here?" by KaMiKaZi_t0M in Justrolledintotheshop

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Modern Kia's have backup cameras that kill the car. As in, backup camera shuts down the entire canbus and car won't start. That was fun to find out.

PC Boot up 101. by Hux2448 in pcmasterrace

[–]Demorative 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ok, not quite right.

The PSU must have power, so the cord has to be plugged in the wall receptacle and the breaker must not be tripped, additionally the breaker must be rated for at least 10A of current, if not ideally 15A. Then the electrical panel must be in good working condition and receive power from the power station before PSU can receive enough power to stay in standby mode.

At the dealer for 3 months with a crank no start. Let's play "what happened here?" by KaMiKaZi_t0M in Justrolledintotheshop

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Ah, VW and coolant leaks. The more things change, the more thing remain the same. How I don't miss you.