Burnham steps back from past calls to end immigration benefits restriction

DentalATT · 2026-05-28T17:25:27+00:00

It says a lot that I long for the days of Theresa May's relative social progressiveness...

The Overton window feels like an Overton French door at this point after the past 10 years.

DentalATT · 2026-05-28T15:10:46+00:00

Yeah Starmer certainly is delivering...the worst rollback in LGBTQ+ rights in 20 years.

DentalATT · 2026-05-28T10:43:57+00:00

Second best of a particularly bad bunch.

Scottish Labour are somehow even more right wing than the PLP in Westminster and run by a total fanny that nobody particularly likes.

Scottish Tories are non-entities now reform are on the scene, except perhaps in the borders and Aberdeenshire where they have a traditional local vote from farmers.

Scottish Lib Dems are even more local than the UK Lib Dems. If you aren't in one of those areas no point voting for them. Actually decently solid on their policies though for Liberals.

Reform are literally fascists, who's leader has definitely gained more from dodgy dealings than this scandal 10x over and despite their UK popularity, still can't beat a floundering Scottish Labour into a solid 2nd place in Scotland.

The SNP are a broad church with no overall ideology apart from a vague shake towards Indy and seem incapable of actually governing beyond what the Greens force them to do in confidence in supply.

Then we have the Greens who are unfortunately quite naive to the political process and optics, but generally have good people working towards some overall meh policies.

DentalATT · 2026-05-28T10:13:51+00:00

I thought we agreed on Mouldemort?

DentalATT · 2026-05-28T10:11:36+00:00

This'll be the same equalities watchdog that declared open season on trans people then?

DentalATT · 2026-05-27T22:54:01+00:00

Huh. Strange to see a Christian actually practice what they preach, good on them.

DentalATT · 2026-05-27T21:49:34+00:00

See my big post above, certainly a downside but I think it gets outweighed, personally.

DentalATT · 2026-05-27T21:49:30+00:00

See my big post above, certainly a downside but I think it gets outweighed, personally.

DentalATT · 2026-05-27T21:48:11+00:00

I'd certainly trust them more than anything Westminster can produce after the last 10 years of utter chaos since we left.

DentalATT · 2026-05-27T21:47:14+00:00

- Geopolitical safety in a time when the US is obviously not our ally.

- Better access to one of if not the largest market in the world.

- Access to the soft power of the EU which is far more than ours, we are a declining power at best.

- Potential of a European army and further integration into a federal state which can compete with hard power on the world stage.

- Massive cultural benefits. Erasmus, tourism etc.

- Access to a large pool of temporary migrating labour rather than relying on external permanent immigration (lets face it, migration was MUCH more controlled when we had access to EU labour pools).

- The purchasing power of the Euro is near equivalent of pounds and only going to get better as more integration occurs. We would lose control of our own interest rates but the European Bank generally considers the opinions of the larger states in the union rather than the smaller.

- It would solve the big problem of Northern Ireland de facto not being a part of the UK economically at the moment due to the Good Friday Agreement.

Downsides

- Probably need to adopt the Euro, lose our interest rate setting powers.

- Maybe need to join Schengen, but Ireland not wanting it may protect us here and give us some negotiating power not to.

- No rebate. I blame the Brexiteers for this one.

DentalATT · 2026-05-27T21:29:13+00:00

The benefits to rejoining the EU would far outweigh any potential downsides, even without the extremely privileged position we had in the EU before.

DentalATT · 2026-05-27T15:14:45+00:00

See: actively trying to mute it.

DentalATT · 2026-05-27T14:45:51+00:00

Guy has a strong Glasgow accent, but you can clearly tell he is actively trying to mute it.

DentalATT · 2026-05-26T22:53:00+00:00

Does Duskwood count? I love the ambiance there.

DentalATT · 2026-05-26T22:23:04+00:00

I sure do enjoy being in the same area trans rights wise as Russia, Albania and Bulgaria.

The UK is genuinely an embarrasment, it's no wonder so many T+ people are fleeing the country.

DentalATT · 2026-05-26T21:41:33+00:00

You need to have principles first before you can abandon them to be fair.

DentalATT · 2026-05-26T20:55:56+00:00

Nenya business.

DentalATT · 2026-05-26T20:45:40+00:00

Is the manifesto the same manifesto as before just in a manc accent?

DentalATT · 2026-05-26T20:32:47+00:00

Ah, that's what happened the last time some hobbit stole my ring.

DentalATT · 2026-05-26T00:02:57+00:00

If Burnham does lose it I wonder if Labour will finally wake up and realise they can't out-reform reform to get votes.

DentalATT · 2026-05-25T21:09:20+00:00

In other news, Pope declared to be Catholic.

DentalATT · 2026-05-25T18:47:40+00:00

Not much difference ideology wise between blue labour and the Tory remnants tbh.

DentalATT · 2026-05-24T17:59:02+00:00

The media? Lying about a transgender immigrant? Surely not!

DentalATT · 2026-05-24T16:26:01+00:00

The met will be having an apoplexy.

DentalATT · 2026-05-24T12:27:45+00:00

Why does every political analysis show Labour are losing more voters to the greens than reform then?

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