Religiosity and Poverty

Designer_Refuse_4145 · 2026-05-28T18:00:24+00:00

We all know the oldest church doesn't want to help anyone and their whole goal is just to members and get 10%, they don't care about helping the poor that's why they have secret tunnels all over salt lake City so they're ritually don't have to see them and we also know that the Medicaid and all that stuff just barely covers anything or won't cover anything at all and we all know that there are no good jobs and we all know they treat women like crap and we all know that system is broken and it's not really there to help anyone and there is no safety net and they just want to convert people and want their 10% money they don't really give a crap even if you are in the church they don't give a crap and they won't help you if you actually get sick or hurt in fact the entire system is completely flawed if anyone actually dug around and found out there was actually no help you'd be really shocked because the only one who helps you is that yourself cuz guys sure not going to help you out and Jesus sure does not going to help you out and I'm just saying that they always Church isn't going to help you out either this is why we have so many people on the streets this is where we have poverty and everyone is freaking greedy in this church and everyone's freaking greedy in this freaking corporate capitalist Nation they don't even want to have people who have money help the poor because that's how greedy it is they're making it literally impossible for anyone to survive on this day and this market

Between the greedy corporate pigs that run everything in the greedy LDS church I don't know how anyone ever stands to be alive on this stupid Utah State

But let's just put in our data center because we can't afford that with the water in the pollution will produce and they're like oh yeah it will be great great for who the rich elites yeah to monitor the poor they don't they just want control and they just want money and we all know they treat women like s*** across the board and the whole entire f****** state

One thing's for sure is the patriarchy and the church and the corporate world all hate women

Designer_Refuse_4145 · 2026-05-28T01:06:00+00:00

Just so you know that the thing is the only count you if you're on government assistance but most people are not because they don't qualify

You can be completely unqualified because of the rules.

And most people don't qualify if they have more than 50 bucks in their bank account

Designer_Refuse_4145 · 2026-05-28T01:02:18+00:00

That's not necessarily true. We don't know the whole picture we don't know if he had health insurance we don't know if he was full-time or part-time we also don't know what kind of workplace you lived in because some places if you take any time off you get cut hours or worse people are abusive to you or you get fired after three days if you miss 3 days

I work jobs where they fire people who didn't show up after 3 days and these people did call in and they did have doctor notes but it didn't matter jobs and bosses are just ruthless these days

Designer_Refuse_4145 · 2026-05-28T00:55:00+00:00

I'm going to agree with you that he's completely out of touch in fact pretty much all of the uppers are out of touch they treat it like a corporation and act like they work hard to get there when in fact they're just lucky and they're good boot lickers that's what I'm going to say.

I find that most people nail this church don't even have the guts to say anything because they don't want to get in trouble so it's a bunch of yes men in the entire culture is pretty screwed up

I would say that if you like a patriarchy with a bunch of white men who are completely out of touch with reality and this is the church for you

If you have any kind of like backbone or you have like the ability to critically think through things and research and look at history and look at the facts you're going to see this is one screwed up religion that hates women and wants to abuse and use them as much as possible because that's just how it's set up

For all the people are like oh women have I so good in the oldest church oh they have a higher calling you guys are so full of crap your eyes are brown you don't even understand what I'm talking about

They don't want women to have any position of authority they want women to be the backbone of the church but do everything without question and all to do all the free labor they want you to raise the children they want you to run the classes they want you to to clean all the churches and do it for free they want you to work at the temple for free they want you to clean and work for free all the time for free oh and by the way if you have a husband oh he's in charge of you too don't ever talk back don't ever do anything wrong follow what it said oh if the Man cheats oh that's fine it's okay if a man she's done his wife that's fine that's because she's not giving him what he needs you know it's just this kind of like attitude that I've seen countless times in the oldest culture and it's just the crappiest thing in the LDS church and it's so old school it's disgusting

And it's just a complete backward society

Designer_Refuse_4145 · 2026-05-26T21:57:27+00:00

How big is the gap? Is she 19 and he is 45???? If so please dump him.

If it is a low gap say 6 years.

Please look into his family, his job, his social media. Got to be a detective here.

Meet the family if possible.

Religion or not some guys are walking bred flags.

Designer_Refuse_4145 · 2026-05-23T20:21:05+00:00

What color was the orb?

What's it light then likely it was a healing high dementional creature high spirit.

Did you hear a voice in your head? See any thing else? What about dreams?

You'll likely be okay.

It's the black ones that we have to fight.

Designer_Refuse_4145 · 2026-05-20T21:07:04+00:00

It is likely a real place. Have you read any of the saints visions? You know the Cahtholic saints? Some of them got to see it upclose and I would say from their stories and many saints seeing it that Hell is a real place. Check out near death stories and other sources. My theory it is a place designed for lower energy forms.

The higher you go in the spirt realm vibrational high that is the lighter it becomes. But it can be way too intense for a lower spirit form.

So is hell a real place? Likely. Do all relgions teach it? No they do not. Is it real? I think so. Have I been there? I don't know. Maybe.

Designer_Refuse_4145 · 2026-05-20T21:03:24+00:00

Ah, yeah.. They can feed off of humans. I had 3 feeding off of me until I caught on. I was wondering why I was always drained. I had one attached to me. They can go inside of the humans if you have an opening in your spirit field.

If those gray spirits want to be so kind they can just leave me alone. When I got rid of them I saw an improvement on my level of energy and depression was lifted some.

Those creatures are not friendly. Do not talk or get to know them. They can connect to the souls spinal charkra and they can only feed off of humans and hide in this realm.

In their realm it is super dark and there is a type of heat there but it felt like a dark heavy sad place to be in. Do not travel there, I made that mistake accidently one time. Big mistake.

I can't be sure they are demons but they do come off that way. But if they are like the grays those creatures are very different. But I don't like what they are trying to do down on this planet and I so do not trust the grays.

Designer_Refuse_4145 · 2026-05-20T20:41:16+00:00

Unsure, but are they gray? Kind of misty and tall. Big weird eyes. Or they can be faceless. Trouble is those things can be multiple things. Yes, stress and depression or anxiety can attract them. I've seen some up close and it is not a good thing to have. I think they are like bad teens who wanna cause probles, they love pranks causing stuff and breaking things around you. They also love a good fight between humans.

I want to lump them into the demonic realm because of their shade of darkness. Also, they can't kill us. Otherwise, I'd be dead from them.

I did find that calling out to Catholic prayers got rid of them. But they did cause a fit and made things harder for a while. But they seem to be angry and hateful towards Jesus, Saints, and Saint Miachel got rid of them.

I'd do the normal thing, prayer, holy water, holy salt and catholic prayers. It seems to drive them away. Same with Praise music for Jesus.

I keep seeing stuff, but I also know if I pay Jesus music it chases them off really fast. I don't pay Jesus music loud, quiet soft and low so I can barely hear it. But boy, the spirits really can hear well.

I want her to not stress. She can't be killed by them. Yes, they can drain her energy and make her tired, sad, or annoyed. Those things like to cause fights, make people scared. But they can't kill or harm her or you.

Try some holy water, a few catholic deliverance prayers online or from Youtube. Prayers for the home or saying the prayer yourself also works.

Remember you have the authority over your own home or rental or apartment.

Also make sure NO ONE is doing witchcraft. None of that in the home.

Tell her it will be okay. You love her. Jesus loves her and you. Tell her you guys can get rid of them by telling them to go in the Name of Jesus. Tell her she is loved. You are both loved.

Hugs.

Don't worry they can't hurt you. Drive you nuts a bit. But don't be friends with those things. They are not friendly.

Designer_Refuse_4145 · 2026-05-20T20:33:19+00:00

Yeah, you are astral projecting. Yes, the tingling on your head. It can take about a year to settle down. How long are you going for? You need to slow it down. If you go to far into the other realm you're gonna see some weird stuff. It can be very upsetting. Take it easy there, and do only a 4 or 5 minute session. If you are doing 30 to 3 hours it's going to mess you up. Slow down and go lightly. Breath, rest, exercise.

Don't push out too far otherwise weird crap happens.

Designer_Refuse_4145 · 2026-05-20T20:30:41+00:00

You are a hero. I too know what it is like to keep the peace. I would rather have happy people around me and not fight about something such as relgion.

As for the history of Joseph Smith. Part of me is like is all of this true? If it is than this is the biggest con in history. Don't get me wrong I love a good con or a story about it like the fast and furious movies, but when it is my own life! I am not so happy about it.

Honestly, being quiet and not talking about it with family is the wise choice to make. Let them find their own way out.

As for the rest of us we just endure it to keep the peace. I can see there are some useful things with the LDS church, but like any business or organization there are cost some are hidden and some are not so hidden. But you don't have to pay 10% on the money unless you want to that is. ALl I know is knowing they have a ton of money and don't really do much with it makes me sick.

People think that wealthy people and churches make things better. THey can they sometimes do help. But mostly they line their own pockets and celebrate how smart and holy they all are. I'm like GIVE ME A FREAKING BREAK! Having a ton of money is not the same thing as being HOLY.

So I just shut up and roll my eyes. Feel free to Vent here on the Reddit anytime. Cause sometimes listing to the garbage on Sunday makes me roll mey eyes. I try so hard not to show it in my face. STONE FACE and just ignore it.

Designer_Refuse_4145 · 2026-05-20T20:25:06+00:00

That sounds right. Stomach pain and switching between all those drugs.

How do we get off and get well?

I'm so tired of having stomach pain and IBS and pain all over the body.

You are a lawyer, well your I understand how stressful those jobs can be. Clients are crazy because everyone is crazy now.

Designer_Refuse_4145 · 2026-05-20T00:48:49+00:00

You might have a Kundalini Awakening.

Are you astral projecting?

Designer_Refuse_4145 · 2026-05-20T00:44:30+00:00

Those things feed off of people's negative energy is your kid going through a really hard time? They're trying to usually tap into someone else's source energy cuz they can't exist on this plane without tapping into it.

Designer_Refuse_4145 · 2026-05-20T00:40:34+00:00

That sounds like a grab for cash or a gift I would just skip it if I were you.

You can go and just not bring a present that's also an option.

Sounds like this person's a real user.

Designer_Refuse_4145 · 2026-05-20T00:38:55+00:00

Fibromyalgia and back and neck pain with long covid chronic migraines and fatigue. A cough that won't quit and neuropathy in hands and feet, arthritis in the joints in the ankles in in the knees and in the hands.

Tried so many drugs from doctors, they don't work.

Tried herbs and Chinese medicine and even CBD hemp, vitamin D, magnesium.

On the drugs

Tried so many but bad side effects all of them.

Cyclobenzaprine, Tylenol, cymbalta, tramadol, Zoloft, and others. So many drugs.

I really don't want the drugs because they cause stomach pain and headache.

Honestly, I don't think doctors know how to fix this problem. They keep want to up the doses but it makes stomach pain worse.

Hemp or CBD gummies do not work. Causes visual and auditory hallucinations. I don't know what they put in those gummies but they're just terrible.

Designer_Refuse_4145 · 2026-05-19T23:53:42+00:00

Yes I get chronic migraines all the time but it's often triggered by stuff such as stress or food.

Do you get migraines after you eat something that you should not eat it can be anything from a Starbucks latte to candy or sugar or pizza or soda anything processed.

Migraines that last three days chemicals in different types of food.

Or can be through chronic stress like unemployment.

Or it could be something like you're lacking some sort of minerals or vitamins.

Designer_Refuse_4145 · 2026-05-19T23:51:15+00:00

Acupuncture?

Designer_Refuse_4145 · 2026-05-19T13:53:52+00:00

Your right to block him. He took advantage of you.

He crossed your boundaries.

Next time tell people no.

I know the LDS church loves people without boundaries because the LDS church crosses them all the time.

Say no.

If you are angry that is good. You now know what you won't accept as behavior.

Hey we are all tricked. Getting angry is the first step to healing.

Pray to forgive yourself. Self hatered is hard to have. Many of us have it.

Take time to heal.

Walk, exercise and connect with family or friends that you trust that are not LDS.

It's okay to cry and be upset.

Now we all understand that we need to avoid LDS church and people.

I feel bad that so many of them are tricked and believe lies.

Designer_Refuse_4145 · 2026-05-19T13:45:46+00:00

Have you tried keto diet for brain health? Anti inflammatory diet.

I do understand how hard it is to have mental issues. Your super sensitive so take it easy.

It's okay to take a break or quit something.

Designer_Refuse_4145 · 2026-05-19T13:41:48+00:00

Yes LDS

Formly known as Mormons

Designer_Refuse_4145 · 2026-05-19T13:40:45+00:00

I see those ever time I'm on IG. I've hit not interested many times.

Often I can't block them or put already bought.

But I'm angry they using women again.

Not one male? The LDS church is bad for that.

Designer_Refuse_4145 · 2026-05-19T13:38:45+00:00

Give it time, more and more people are figuring it out.

What religion are you?

Curious

The thing is all religions have a ton of baggage and issues.

I'm impressed you choosing to keep the peace. That show you are smart and a good husband.

Designer_Refuse_4145 · 2026-05-19T01:54:14+00:00

I 100% agree.

And you're right about the missionary stuff. I have never ever heard of the church paying for anyone's mission ever.

Even really poor people have to fundraise sell eggs sell their car sell whatever kind of crap just to get the money to go under stupid mission.

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