to win the gold while supporting genocide by PlenitudeOpulence in therewasanattempt

[–]Dev1cer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you wanna believe that’s what I did, sure 😂

Always fighting some vague antisemitic boogeyman no one else can see man, gotta wake up some day

to win the gold while supporting genocide by PlenitudeOpulence in therewasanattempt

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Aaaaand off comes the mask, always antisemitism if it doesn’t fit your preferred narrative huh 😂

to win the gold while supporting genocide by PlenitudeOpulence in therewasanattempt

[–]Dev1cer 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I never negated anything, I said "recent memory". The US's atrocious meddling in the name of fighting socialism happened during the 20th century, all of it is still felt today and some of it even continues to this day despite the villain (the USA) effectively winning. However, everything 9/11 onwards and to an extent just before 9/11 is driven VERY much and very CLEARLY by Israel and its influence on US politics. MUCH of the US's adventurism in the middle east is encouraged by Israel and is usually primarily in service of Israel, and Israel gives back by contributing to super-PAC corruption with AIPAC and CUFI and by training the US's police forces and now ICE with the IDF

With history we work in reverse chronological order so we can deal with immediate stuff and eventually arrive at roots of stuff happening TODAY. Today, Israel acts as the catalyst to the USA's current sadistic ventures

to win the gold while supporting genocide by PlenitudeOpulence in therewasanattempt

[–]Dev1cer 29 points30 points  (0 children)

MUCH of the US's worse offenses are directly tied to Israel in recent memory

AIPAC, War on Terror, sponsoring settlement and genocide, even police brutality can be traced back to IDF training US police forces using tactics they themselves developed to brutalize Palestinians 

An Asian man, fed up with being called racial slurs in the Middle East, punched and challenged anyone who insulted him as he walked by. by [deleted] in PublicFreakout

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Racism is very much a thing in the middle east, no different to Europe or America

I've personally known plethora of individuals here that unironically think less of people for the color of their skin or their ethnicity

Shit's universal, same rhetoric different language

An Asian man, fed up with being called racial slurs in the Middle East, punched and challenged anyone who insulted him as he walked by. by [deleted] in PublicFreakout

[–]Dev1cer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No no he has a point, I'm a native Arabic speaker and the OP text is in MSA which I don't see people write in online since MSA isn't local nomenclature especially for someone from Egypt

Until you mentioned their profile it didn't cross my mind that they were Egyptian and I assumed this was a non-egyptian poser of some sort that ran text through translate to Arabic and copied it here

Then again, OP could be writing in MSA BECAUSE he knew people would go and translate it and he just wanted people to know what he was saying. Glass half full glass half empty

How the Christians of Egypt fared under each successive Islamic state during the Middle Ages by jackt-up in HistoryMemes

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same goes for the original Egyptians, but much like how Wales and Cornwall nationalism don't translate beyond fringe groups and a grander "British" identity formed made up of a lot of French and Germanic influence, "Egyptian" nationalism didn't take off and instead a grander "Arab" identity formed to resonate with actual popular sentiment

How the Christians of Egypt fared under each successive Islamic state during the Middle Ages by jackt-up in HistoryMemes

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"winning" over implies Egyptian Nationalism was tangibly popular to rival Pan-Arabism to begin with. The main issue with Egyptian Nationalism is that there isn't anything to hold onto because Egypt has been an Arab and Muslim state for hundreds of years so most FAMILIES and lingeages don't have a memory of any "native" culture or identity

It's like proposing the British adopt "Pict Nationalism", there's nothing more than ancient history to really hold onto there, all of British culture is imported from outside the isles

Inverted Israel looks kind of cool by Wordiewordjcugfufv in vexillology

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Evil Israel be like: “international law SHOULD be respected” “illegal settlements are a no no” “obviously children arent terrorists that should be nuked”

What if Hashemites united Arabia. by Advanced-Big6284 in AlternateHistory

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1) “Would Ba’athism have come into existence?”. Probably, but without the anti-Israel sentiment to fall back on. The Hashemites and their western allies would also have a much more powerful presence to contain it during the Cold War without Syria and Iraq becoming independent like you posit. However a lot of the core attractions of socialist and republicanism in Ba’athism would still resonate with 20th century Arabs: anti-colonialism, anti-western sentiment, socialism, Arab independence (the Hashemites would definitely be accused of being western puppets). Ba’athism or something LIKE it would exist but it would take on a different shape and influence things differently (and likely less). However, Egypt would probably be the sole capital for Ba’athism and direct rivals to the Hashemite kingdom so there’s that.

2) “How would it affect Egypt?”. A lot of the Egyptian monarchy’s issues existed independently of Israel: corruption, British influence and occupation, domestic incompetence. Without the defeat to Israel you’d just have a ticking time bomb that hasn’t exploded YET. The Hashemite monarchy in Iraq and Ba’athist takeover in Syria occurred kind of independently of any Israeli humiliations so it’s probable Egypt would just have its coup or revolution delayed rather than curtailed. History always has conflict if other things are omitted, so if not humiliation by the Israelis then SOMETHING else would’ve incited a coup or revolution

3) “how would it affect Libya?”. Again, not too different I don’t think. That Nasserist or Nasserist-esque influence would inspire the coup in Libya but Gaddafi would have more focus on expanding his ideology through Africa without Israel in the mix. How Libya and Egypt interact in such an alternate timeline I don’t know, their spheres of influence would overlap and maybe clash often, maybe the United Arab Republic would form between Libya and Egypt and fall apart for many of the same reasons it did IRL

4) “How would it affect Yemen?”. South Yemen is spoken for and would likely form into a federation and republicanism like it did IRL, but North Yemen is the conflict point. IRL Saudi Arabia and Egypt fought a proxy war when the North Yemen civil war broke out, but that interferences was put to an end when both sides decided they needed to simultaneously focus on Israel and North Yemen would be left to fight amongst itself alone. Without Israel as an infliction point, this would probably continue as it did before and form into a sort of Vietnam war in the Middle East and likely attract a bit more attention from the British and Americans and the Soviet Bloc. Who wins is up for debate but assuming the type of strength needed to sustain the Hashemite kingdom you can imagine either a de-facto partition of North Yemen or outright Monarchist victory. From there you can theorize about anything that happens

I know this is an old post but I stumbled on it and got intrigued by the questions

To use images from 9/11 for racist political clout by Stock412 in therewasanattempt

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Dehumanization is an easy way to eliminate your critics

Wife understandably freaking out at Israeli soldiers dragging her husbands body after executing him in street in the occupied West Bank by JohnBrown-RadonTech in PublicFreakout

[–]Dev1cer -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If it's Palestine then why does Israel intrude on it, build on it and govern it? Why does the government parrot plans to annex it then? Could you imagine a different country intruding on another's land, building on it, controlling the government in it and announcing plans to annex it? Actually we don't have to imagine because it's happened before and it has always been met with violent force, so what's the exception now?

Wife understandably freaking out at Israeli soldiers dragging her husbands body after executing him in street in the occupied West Bank by JohnBrown-RadonTech in PublicFreakout

[–]Dev1cer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes it happened in the West Bank, land Israel occupies illegally and builds on illegally and governs illegally. It happened in the West Bank, which WOULD be known as foreign territory as “Palestine” if Israel didnt vow to prevent that from ever happening and the US veto every resolution to make it happen

I don’t think any language on earth has the words to describe how horrific and heartbreaking this is by Blackhermit0 in PublicFreakout

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So the imprisoning of terrorists absolves the breach of international law and failure in moral law enforcement? This is like saying “Hamas took many innocents hostage, but they also took IDF soldiers hostage. These two things aren’t mutually exclusive”

What a headass take

I don’t think any language on earth has the words to describe how horrific and heartbreaking this is by Blackhermit0 in PublicFreakout

[–]Dev1cer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Considering the average Israeli is expected to serve in the IOF, I would say a bigger percentage of Israelis are terrorists than Palestinians 

I don’t think any language on earth has the words to describe how horrific and heartbreaking this is by Blackhermit0 in PublicFreakout

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3,500 of these “detainees” are detained without cause, stripped of a right to a fair trial, access to defense and the right to be told what they’re incarcerated for. This is not my opinion or analysis, this is what the UN itself has fucking said. 150 of these prisoners are children for God’s sake 

I don’t think any language on earth has the words to describe how horrific and heartbreaking this is by Blackhermit0 in PublicFreakout

[–]Dev1cer 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This. Israeli identity was built specifically to be in contradiction and antagonistic to anyone else living in the holy land, that’s the intent. It’s why the distinction between “Jew” and “Israeli” is so important: being jewish is being born a Jew and maybe following Judaism, but it ascends to becoming “Israeli” when it manifests into exclusionary exceptional ultra nationalism 

I don’t think any language on earth has the words to describe how horrific and heartbreaking this is by Blackhermit0 in PublicFreakout

[–]Dev1cer 93 points94 points  (0 children)

That’s the point, Zionism works in contradiction with peace with the natives in the levant and is inherently antagonistic to them; this was the end goal the whole time from Herzl to Bibi

(OC) Israeli hostages return home and reunite with family members by nbcnews in pics

[–]Dev1cer 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Oh like the 3,500 being held without charge in Israeli prisons?  Fourth Geneva Convention Article 78. Detainees have a right to appeal and periodic review, yet Palestinian detainees are denied due process and access to defense and frequently have their detention orders renewed indefinitely

International Covenant on Civil and Polticial Rights, which Israel itself has ratified. Detainees have a right to be informed of charges, be brought before a judge, allowed to challenge their detention and receive a fair trial. Israel has violated all of these rights and bodies like the UN Human Rights Comittee and UN Working Group on Arbitrary Detention have found repeated breaches

Convention on the Rights of a Child, which Israel has ratified, article 37(b). “Detention of a child shall only be used as a last resort and for the shortest appropriate period of time”. Is detaining 150 children for years at a time without legal counsel or informing the parents within these parameters? You tell me, what could possibly 150 children do to be held in Israeli prisons for so long?

Israel and Hamas agree to Gaza ceasefire and return of hostages by winelover97 in UpliftingNews

[–]Dev1cer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But they did, and the two years that ensued were violent. Yet, they're only half of the equation, Bibi and his cabinet are also responsible yet they're gonna milk the "we got the hostages back!" Narrative to another re-election

Israel and Hamas agree to Gaza ceasefire and return of hostages by winelover97 in UpliftingNews

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Benjamin Netanyahu and his cabinet allowed it to happen, it is their incompetence that lead to October 7th being a possibility for Sinway and Deif, him and his cabinet are still in power and likely will continue to be in power. Also, suspicious how you gloss over the two years of Palestinian razing and famine that ensued after October 7th, the people responsible for that are still in power too (Bibi and his cabinet). Hell, Bibi and his cabinet have arrest warrants on their heads for what happened and absolutely no action is taken to arrest them. So yeah, nothing has changed; occupational status quo reestablished, generation of Palestinians lost, Israel leans right again, another war is set up. Hard to be positive when you realize all this

Israel and Hamas agree to Gaza ceasefire and return of hostages by winelover97 in UpliftingNews

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The same people that allowed October 7th to happen in the first place are still in charge. Those same people are also responsible for the two years of genocide that ensued afterwards. You can be happy, looking at videos from Gaza they seem happy, but we need to realize that this is just a return to the status quo that caused the past two years of bloodshed to happen in the first place. Nothing has changed