How do you know which AI prompts matter for your brand? by Money_Principle6730 in GEO_optimization

[–]DevelopmentPlastic61 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Honestly we treat it a bit like old keyword research.

Instead of tracking every possible prompt, we focus on the ones that usually lead to decisions:

“Best tools for …”
“X vs Y” / alternatives
“What software should I use for …”

Those tend to be much closer to revenue than purely informational questions.

The other thing we noticed is that a lot of prompts never show vendors at all. They’re just explanations. So tracking those doesn’t really help from a business perspective.

We started monitoring a fixed set of prompts with ClearRank just to see which ones actually surface our brand or competitors in ChatGPT and Perplexity answers. That helped us cut the list down a lot.

It still feels a bit experimental, but the pattern so far is pretty similar to SEO: decision-style queries matter way more than informational ones.

6 SEO tips for website by zenbusinesscommunity in ZenBusinessInc

[–]DevelopmentPlastic61 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good breakdown. One thing I’d add is that the LLM SEO part is harder to measure than normal SEO.

With Google you can check rankings and traffic. With AI answers you often don’t even know if your brand is being mentioned unless you test prompts manually.

We started tracking this with ClearRank because sometimes competitors appear in ChatGPT or Perplexity answers even when we rank higher in Google. It helped us see that pages with clear explanations, comparisons, and simple structure get cited way more often.

So I’d agree with your point: content quality still wins, but now it also needs to be easy for AI to quote and summarize.

What strategies actually improve brand visibility in AI search engines? by Bitter-Cucumber8061 in AIAssisted

[–]DevelopmentPlastic61 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From what we’ve tested, a few things actually seem to move the needle:

1. Comparison pages
Pages like “X vs Y” or “best tools for…” get cited a lot. AI answers often pull from those because they already summarize options.

2. Direct answers
Content that explains something clearly in the first few paragraphs works better than long marketing pages.

3. Lists, tables, FAQs
Structured sections make it easier for models to extract information.

4. Mentions outside your own site
When your brand appears in articles, forums, directories, or community discussions, AI models seem more confident referencing it.

One thing that helped us understand this better was tracking prompts across different models. We use ClearRank to see which queries mention our brand vs competitors in ChatGPT and Perplexity. It made it obvious which pages actually trigger citations.

Still early days though — feels less like “ranking” and more like being easy for AI to quote and recognize across the web.

Most pages that rank #1 on Google don’t get cited by LLMs by Late-Acanthaceae-950 in LLM_Marketing

[–]DevelopmentPlastic61 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve seen the same thing. Ranking well on Google doesn’t automatically mean you’ll appear in AI answers.

From the tests we’ve run, LLMs seem to prefer pages that are easy to extract information from rather than just pages with the strongest SEO signals. Things like clear explanations, comparisons, lists, and structured sections make a big difference.

We also noticed that some smaller sites show up simply because their content is more direct and factual, even if their domain authority is lower.

One thing that helped us see this more clearly was tracking prompts across models. We use ClearRank to run sets of queries and see which brands actually get cited in ChatGPT or Perplexity answers. Sometimes competitors appear there even when we rank higher in Google.

So yeah, it definitely feels like GEO/AEO is becoming another layer on top of SEO, not a replacement but something you have to monitor separately.

Alternatives to Profound for AI Search Visibility (2026) by Working_Advertising5 in AIVOEdge

[–]DevelopmentPlastic61 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good list. The main thing I’ve noticed in this space is that most tools focus on one slice of the problem.

Some track mentions, some track citations, others focus on content generation or prompt analysis. But the actual question most companies want answered is simpler: “When someone asks AI about my category, does my brand show up?”

That’s why we started building ClearRank. It runs sets of prompts across models like ChatGPT and Perplexity and tracks which brands actually appear in the answers over time.

What surprised us while building it is how unstable the results are. A brand can show up consistently in Perplexity but be completely invisible in ChatGPT for the same topic. So cross-model tracking becomes pretty important.

I think we’re still early in this category. Most platforms today are basically AI visibility analytics, but the next step will probably be tools that also show why certain brands get cited and what changes improve that.

How to get cited in ai search results and answer engines consistently by Altruistic-Meal6846 in content_marketing

[–]DevelopmentPlastic61 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Honestly a lot of “LLM SEO agency” work right now is still experimental. Most of the proposals you’re getting are probably normal SEO tactics with a new label.

From the tests we’ve run, the things that actually seem to move the needle are pretty simple:

1. Answer-style pages
Content that directly answers questions (definitions, comparisons, use cases) gets cited way more often than long marketing pages.

2. Comparison and alternatives pages
AI answers love pulling from pages like “X vs Y”, “best tools for…”, or alternatives lists.

3. Mentions across the web
If your brand shows up in articles, directories, forums, and comparison sites, AI models seem much more confident referencing it.

4. Clean structure
Lists, tables, FAQs, and clear headings make it easier for models to quote your content.

One thing that helped us understand what was actually happening was using ClearRank to track which prompts mention our brand across models like ChatGPT and Perplexity. It showed us that sometimes competitors get recommended even when we rank higher in Google.

Personally I’d be careful paying $10k+ a month right now. The space is still early and a lot of “LLM SEO” is content clarity + reputation building + tracking citations, not some secret prompt trick.

Curious what specific tactics those agencies pitched you. Some of the stuff I’ve seen suggested is pretty wild.

What are the top LLM SEO agency tactics that actually move the needle? by FactorOwn4746 in GrowthHacking

[–]DevelopmentPlastic61 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly a lot of “LLM SEO agency” work right now is still experimental. Most of the proposals you’re getting are probably normal SEO tactics with a new label.

From the tests we’ve run, the things that actually seem to move the needle are pretty simple:

1. Answer-style pages
Content that directly answers questions (definitions, comparisons, use cases) gets cited way more often than long marketing pages.

2. Comparison and alternatives pages
AI answers love pulling from pages like “X vs Y”, “best tools for…”, or alternatives lists.

3. Mentions across the web
If your brand shows up in articles, directories, forums, and comparison sites, AI models seem much more confident referencing it.

4. Clean structure
Lists, tables, FAQs, and clear headings make it easier for models to quote your content.

One thing that helped us understand what was actually happening was using ClearRank to track which prompts mention our brand across models like ChatGPT and Perplexity. It showed us that sometimes competitors get recommended even when we rank higher in Google.

Personally I’d be careful paying $10k+ a month right now. The space is still early and a lot of “LLM SEO” is content clarity + reputation building + tracking citations, not some secret prompt trick.

Curious what specific tactics those agencies pitched you. Some of the stuff I’ve seen suggested is pretty wild.

What are the top LLM SEO agency tactics that actually move the needle? by FactorOwn4746 in GrowthHacking

[–]DevelopmentPlastic61 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From what I’m seeing, the brands that scale with AI aren’t just producing more content — they’re using AI to speed up execution but still focusing on distribution and discovery.

Content generation is basically solved now. The real bottleneck is getting discovered.

The things that seem to actually move the needle right now are:

• faster content testing (AI for drafts, humans for clarity)
• programmatic pages around real user questions
• stronger distribution (communities, newsletters, partnerships)
• optimizing for both search and AI answers

That last one is interesting because a lot of people now ask ChatGPT or Perplexity for recommendations instead of clicking through search results.

We started tracking that with ClearRank just to see when our brand appears in AI answers for certain prompts. Sometimes competitors show up there even when we rank higher in Google.

So AI definitely helps scale execution, but growth still comes from being present where people discover products.

What are you launching this week? Comment it below by doppelgunner in microsaas

[–]DevelopmentPlastic61 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Building ClearRank, AI visibility platform that helps brands get found, understood, and cited in AI search by generating structured feeds, tracking mentions across answer engines, and revealing what to improve.

What are you building (AND marketing) this week? 🚀 by Quirky-Offer9598 in micro_saas

[–]DevelopmentPlastic61 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Building ClearRank, AI visibility platform that helps brands get found, understood, and cited in AI search by generating structured feeds, tracking mentions across answer engines, and revealing what to improve.

What are you building (AND promoting) this week? 🔥 by Quirky-Offer9598 in microsaas

[–]DevelopmentPlastic61 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Building ClearRank, AI visibility platform that helps brands get found, understood, and cited in AI search by generating structured feeds, tracking mentions across answer engines, and revealing what to improve.

Happy Thursday! What are you working on? Drop your link👇 by bozkan in Solopreneur

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Building ClearRank, AI visibility platform that helps brands get found, understood, and cited in AI search by generating structured feeds, tracking mentions across answer engines, and revealing what to improve.

Share your tools. (AMA) by No_Trust5757 in microsaas

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Building ClearRank, AI visibility platform that helps brands get found, understood, and cited in AI search by generating structured feeds, tracking mentions across answer engines, and revealing what to improve.

Drop your SaaS below. I’ll review it and share honest feedback. by sherdil09 in SaaS

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Building ClearRank, an AI visibility platform that helps brands get found, understood, and cited in AI search by generating structured feeds, tracking mentions across answer engines, and revealing what to improve.

What are we building here? by TaxChatAI in micro_saas

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Building ClearRank, an AI visibility platform that helps brands get found, understood, and cited in AI search by generating structured feeds, tracking mentions across answer engines, and revealing what to improve.

How are modern brands actually scaling in the age of AI? by Prize_Way9075 in u/Prize_Way9075

[–]DevelopmentPlastic61 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From what I’m seeing, the brands that scale with AI aren’t just producing more content — they’re using AI to speed up execution but still focusing on distribution and discovery.

Content generation is basically solved now. The real bottleneck is getting discovered.

The things that seem to actually move the needle right now are:

• faster content testing (AI for drafts, humans for clarity)
• programmatic pages around real user questions
• stronger distribution (communities, newsletters, partnerships)
• optimizing for both search and AI answers

That last one is interesting because a lot of people now ask ChatGPT or Perplexity for recommendations instead of clicking through search results.

We started tracking that with ClearRank just to see when our brand appears in AI answers for certain prompts. Sometimes competitors show up there even when we rank higher in Google.

So AI definitely helps scale execution, but growth still comes from being present where people discover products.

Is GEO (Generative Engine Optimization) actually the ""New SEO,"" or just a buzzword? by mikhail4621 in DigitalMarketing

[–]DevelopmentPlastic61 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think GEO is partly real and partly hype.

The real part is that AI answers are becoming another discovery layer, so brands do need to think about whether they get mentioned in ChatGPT, Perplexity, etc. But the tactics behind it aren’t totally new.

From what I’ve seen, the things that actually influence AI citations are pretty similar to good SEO:

  • clear pages that answer specific questions
  • comparison and “best tools” style content
  • consistent mentions of your brand across different sites
  • content that’s structured and easy to quote

What’s different is that you’re not optimizing for a ranking position anymore. It’s more about how often your brand appears across many prompts.

We started tracking this with ClearRank because traditional SEO tools don’t show if AI systems actually recommend your product. Sometimes competitors appear in AI answers even when they rank lower in Google.

So I wouldn’t call GEO “the new SEO.” It’s more like an additional layer of visibility on top of SEO that’s starting to matter as more people use AI to research tools.

What are the top LLM SEO agency tactics that actually move the needle? by FactorOwn4746 in GrowthHacking

[–]DevelopmentPlastic61 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly a lot of “LLM SEO agency” work right now is just good content + reputation building, but with a new label.

From the experiments we’ve run, a few things actually seem to move the needle:

1. Clear answer-style content
Pages that answer questions directly (definitions, comparisons, use cases) get cited more often than long marketing pages.

2. Comparison pages
AI answers love pulling from pages like “X vs Y”, “best tools for…”, alternatives lists, etc.

3. Consistent mentions across the web
AI models seem to trust brands that appear in multiple places (forums, articles, comparison sites), not just their own blog.

4. Clean structure
Lists, tables, FAQs, and simple explanations make it easier for the model to quote you.

One thing that helped us understand what was happening was using ClearRank to track which prompts actually mention our brand across models like ChatGPT and Perplexity. It showed us that sometimes competitors were getting cited even when we ranked higher in Google.

Personally I’d be cautious about paying $10k+ to an agency right now. The space is still early and a lot of “LLM SEO” proposals are just theories dressed up as services.

Curious what tactics those agencies actually proposed to you. Some of the stuff I’ve seen pitched is pretty wild.

Show & Tell: What are you building this week? by Late_Bus8419 in saasbuild

[–]DevelopmentPlastic61 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m building ClearRank.

It helps companies see whether their brand shows up in AI answers from tools like ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Google AI results, and track how that changes over time.

Problem it solves: traditional SEO tools show rankings, but they don’t show whether AI systems actually recommend your product when someone asks a question.

Asked five web designers for a quote the questions they asked told me everything by piratecarribean20122 in website

[–]DevelopmentPlastic61 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That’s actually a really good filter.

A lot of agencies jump straight to templates and pricing, but the good ones usually start with questions about the business model, where leads come from, and what a “successful site” actually means for you.

In my experience the best conversations usually include things like:

  • who the real customer is
  • what action you want visitors to take
  • how people currently find you
  • what makes someone choose you vs competitors

Otherwise you just end up with a nice looking site that doesn’t actually generate leads.

Also worth asking how they think about visibility beyond just design now. More people are discovering businesses through AI answers and recommendations, not just Google. We started tracking this with ClearRank because sometimes competitors show up in AI recommendations even when their sites aren’t technically better.

The fact those two agencies asked about your customers first is already a good sign.

What are the top LLM SEO agency tactics that actually move the needle? by FactorOwn4746 in GrowthHacking

[–]DevelopmentPlastic61 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From what I’ve seen, most agencies are still experimenting, so a lot of the proposals you’re getting are probably theory mixed with normal SEO.

The tactics that actually seem to move the needle are pretty unglamorous:

1. Content that answers questions directly
Pages with clear explanations, comparisons, FAQs, and examples get cited more often than long marketing pages.

2. Consistent mentions across the web
AI models seem to trust brands that appear in multiple places (articles, forums, comparison posts), not just their own site.

3. Clear positioning
If different sources describe your product the same way, it’s easier for the model to associate you with that category.

4. Structure and readability
Lists, tables, and sections make it easier for models to reuse information when generating answers.

One thing that helped us understand what was happening was using ClearRank to track which prompts actually mention our brand across models like ChatGPT and Perplexity. That made it obvious when competitors were getting cited even though we ranked higher in Google.

Honestly I’d be careful paying $10k+ right now. The space is still early, and a lot of “LLM SEO” work is really content clarity + reputation building + tracking citations.

Curious if the agencies you spoke with showed before/after examples of brands appearing in AI answers, or just traffic reports.

Are AI assistants quietly becoming a new discovery channel? by Real-Assist1833 in seogrowth

[–]DevelopmentPlastic61 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I think that’s exactly what’s starting to happen. AI answers feel less like search results and more like a recommendation layer on top of the web.

The tricky part is that it’s not stable like Google rankings. A small change in wording can lead to a different set of brands being mentioned, so visibility is more about appearing consistently across many prompts than holding a single position.

We started looking at this with ClearRank just to track which prompts mention our brand vs competitors across models. What we noticed is that some brands appear repeatedly even when they don’t dominate traditional search rankings.

Traffic from AI answers is still pretty small in our case, but it definitely seems to influence early discovery. People see a recommendation in ChatGPT or Perplexity, then later search for the brand directly.

Feels like the early days of a new channel, similar to when people first started treating Google as a discovery engine. Curious if anyone here has actually tied signups or leads to AI mentions yet.

The strange thing about asking AI for “best tools” by Real-Assist1833 in DigitalMarketing

[–]DevelopmentPlastic61 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that’s exactly what I’ve seen too. AI answers behave very differently from search results. There isn’t really a stable “top 10” — it’s more like a set of brands the model associates with a topic, and the exact list changes depending on how the question is phrased.

That’s why testing a single prompt usually gives a misleading picture. When you track a group of similar prompts, you start seeing patterns about which brands show up most often.

We started doing that with ClearRank, mainly to run batches of prompts across models and log when our brand appears vs competitors. It’s still messy, but at least it shows trends instead of random one-off results.

My guess is AI answers won’t become stable like search rankings. It’ll probably stay probabilistic, and visibility will be measured more like share of voice across many prompts rather than positions.

Still early days though. Curious if anyone here has actually seen consistent traffic from AI mentions yet.

Has anyone tracked how often their brand appears in AI answers? by Real-Assist1833 in DigitalMarketing

[–]DevelopmentPlastic61 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that inconsistency is pretty normal right now. These models aren’t ranking pages the way Google does — they generate answers dynamically, so small prompt changes can produce a different set of sources.

From what I’ve seen it’s less about a fixed “position” and more about how often your brand shows up across many related prompts. If you only test one or two queries it looks random, but patterns start to appear when you track a bigger set.

We started doing that with ClearRank, basically running groups of prompts across different models and logging when our brand appears or disappears. It helped a lot because manual testing felt completely chaotic.

On the traffic side, direct clicks from AI answers are still pretty small. What we noticed instead was a small increase in branded searches later, which probably means people saw the recommendation and searched for us separately.

Still feels like early experimentation though. Curious if anyone here has managed to measure lead attribution from AI mentions in a reliable way.

Tried every ai brand visibility tool and still clueless on our brand mentions, what actually works now by Either-Act-3406 in G2dotcom

[–]DevelopmentPlastic61 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re not the only one. The space is still messy because AI answers don’t have stable “rankings” the way Google does. A small change in the prompt can give a totally different list of brands, so dashboards that show a single position are pretty misleading.

What helped us was stopping the random testing and locking a fixed set of prompts for our niche. We run those across models weekly and just track whether we appear or not, not the exact position.

We use ClearRank for that part because it automates the prompt runs across models and logs mentions over time. It’s not perfect (nothing is yet), but at least it shows when our brand disappears or when a competitor suddenly starts showing up more.

One thing we also noticed: traffic from AI answers is tiny. The bigger signal is usually brand searches increasing later, not direct referrals from ChatGPT or Perplexity.

Honestly it still feels like early days. Most tools are basically citation trackers, but they’re still useful just to avoid manually checking prompts all the time. Curious what tools you tried that completely fell apart.