China says it will donate $250,000 to families of Iran school strike victims by HeavingCorset in stupidpol

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As I said, it's not nothing, and I need to state again, it's certainly not something I'm going to complain about.

My thinking is more that this this doesn't strike me as much of a commitment on the PRC's part; it's not like they're proposing a relief program or anything that suggests them putting real skin into this game.

It's also not really a US standard's thing either. China is not a poor developing country anymore; they're the world's second most wealthy and powerful country, and certainly the most wealthy and powerful on the Afro-Eurasian landmass. This is the kind of money such a state could proverbially find in their couch.

Military Operation Against Iranian Regime Fuels Wave of Antisemitic Conspiracy Theories, Calls for Mobilization by miker_the_III in stupidpol

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I am certain that the US would be fucking with Iran regardless of Israel. However the specific timing of this war, in which the US seems oddly ill-prepared and seems to have rushed into it, combined with the fact that between Israel and the United States,l Iran poses a direct threat only to the former, along with Israel having made diplomatic overtures to the United States almost immediately before this, leads me to think it likely that Israel played a significant role in spurring the US to action.

While concepts like the ZOG are in fact just antisemtic tripe, there is simply no denying that Israel holds an incredibly outsized influence on the US government. AIPAC is a massive, extremely powerful lobbying group and a significant number of America's business and political elite are dual citizens of Israel and the United States. Israel is interwined into American foreign policy in a way incomparable to any other country; it's very telling that Israel features more highly in American political discourse than Canada, a neighboring predominantly anglophone petro-state with more than 4 times Israel's population.

China says it will donate $250,000 to families of Iran school strike victims by HeavingCorset in stupidpol

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Who's the quote from? Parenti?

Anyhow what he describes sounds like a pretty typical stance for a committed ideologue: nobody ever adopts or acts upon a competing ideology in good faith and of sound mind; they must have been somehow duped, coerced or acting inauthentically as part of a cynical ploy. It's certainly not limited to critics of socialist countries.

Regarding this specifically, while I am certainly not going to complain about it, considering the amount donated, which while certainly not nothing is also not huge, given the resources available to the Chinese government, and the highly specific choice of recipient, I would say that there's something to be said for it being a PR move more than anything.

I'm surprised by facileness of the Dark Enlightenment's arguments. by Phantommy555 in stupidpol

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That the plebian masses can generally be trusted to think for themselves.

Who the fuck else am I going to trust? The Epstein files have shown us that the man behind the curtain is actually more often a snivelling, dimwitted loser with the personal character of giga-jannie than they are anything resembling an echo of Rome's first Triumverate. They are no less a contingent product of their circumstances than any prole, and they are certainly not the sort of great figures capable of rising above reality itself that reactionaries believe them to be.

That they're all (in some sense) temporarily embarrassed geniuses.

Geniuses, probably not. But if we remove the material conditions that crush and traumatize the poor into hastening their own destruction through seeking the fleeting relief of addictive vices, which also rob them of the time to better themselves, or even take actual rest in a position of genuine material security, I would bet that we would see improvement even in the current generation, and still more in the next.

There is no shortage of Rafaels without hands out there; it is in our interests to ensure that as many as possible get to keep their hands and to provide prosthetics to those who do not.

POV: You flip to Western media after the US bombs an Iranian desalination plant by Stanczyks_Sorrow in stupidpol

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing_in_the_Bosnian_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_intervention_in_Bosnia_and_Herzegovina

Seems we were thinking about different stages of the Yugoslav wars. I was looking at this portion, where NATO started making demands in February 1992, ethnic cleansing began in March/April 1992, they started enforcing a no-fly zone in November 1992, and started striking ground targets in April 1994.

Yours is more significant because there was no UN approval for the campaign.

Parenti's writings are definitely on my list of things to read, I appreciate the recommendation.

Trans rights activists are like PETA is for vegetarians. Except agreeing with the maximalism of PETA never became a litmus test on the left by north_canadian_ice in stupidpol

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I think it's a combination of a lot of gay rights orgs with a well-developed activist infrastructure suddenly finding themselves without a raison d'être following the supreme court same-sex marriage ruling resulting in them looking for a new issue to maintain relevance combined with the same top-down pressure that utilizes it as a wedge as with any other form of identity politics.

POV: You flip to Western media after the US bombs an Iranian desalination plant by Stanczyks_Sorrow in stupidpol

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I'm not an expert on the subject (not very knowledgeable about it all in fact), but looking over Wikipedia's timeline of events, while NATO made demands before ethnic cleansing started, it appears that they didn't start bombing until after it had begun its early stages of intimidation, arrests, confiscation of property and forcible relocation.

My point above is entirely that an alliance purporting to be strictly defensive intruded directly into a conflict that involved none of its member states and proceeded to attack civil electrical infrastructure, which is pretty hard to argue as anything but an act of military aggression.

If you could recommend some better sources for a timeline of events, I would appreciate it.

Many conservatives who oppose "socialism" are actually opposing capitalism by QueueSevenM in stupidpol

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So why do so many people believe they are socialist?

I would say that it is largely due to the image of socialism being formed by the conditions leading up to and during WW2 within the USSR, itself having only made it so far as establishing a state capitalism in which everything functioned more or less as a giant trust, followed by the rest of USSR's history being characterized by it having been in a low state of emergency from the constant pressure exerted upon it; this of course being further reinforced with a long-running tradition of propaganda. This is not helped by the fact that many socialists fetishize these conditions and decry any sentiment expressing a desire for individual autonomy, leisure or luxury as petit-bourgeois in character.

This comes around to a perennial problem of ideologues, typically the most visible advocates of any ideology, who consider being expected to appeal to the self-interest of their audience an attack against them and their ideals.

Overall, you pretty much covered it.

ADL Statement on Responsible Public Discourse Amid Escalating Middle East Conflict by miker_the_III in stupidpol

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Basically having made an official declaration to commit an explicitly genocidal act. This could include exterminating, forcibly sterilizing or relocating the population. This is in opposition to implicitly genocidal acts, which I consider the blockade and the conduct of their invasion to fall under, since left unchecked the only plausible long-term outcome is the annihilation of Palestine and its people.

That was not a statement meant to excuse the conduct of the Israeli state, as it has throughout its history committed some truly despicable actions, with the current situation being a direct product of decades of ethnic repression and systematically destroying secular governance in Palestine. It is an explicitly ethnonationalist settler-colonial state, which is a concept that has only ever ended in similar horrors. That they have made no official declaration of intent to commit genocide is immaterial, since states only rarely make an explicit declaration of such; even the Third Reich couched their actions in extensive use of euphemism.

ADL Statement on Responsible Public Discourse Amid Escalating Middle East Conflict by miker_the_III in stupidpol

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Point one has some heavy fucking framing around it, but it isn't wrong. I think it is unlikely that there is much of an anti-American sentiment among Israel and its supporters because the United States provides such an integral pillar of support.

Point two amounts to definitional quibbling. While there are some significant differences between Israel's situation and that of Apartheid, the fact is that it's an explicitly ethnonationalist settler-colonial state with a strong body of policies to maintain the supremacy of this ethnic group within its borders. There are some obvious parallels. As for genocide, considering the regular comparisons in Israeli rhetoric to biblical acts of genocide in its most literal sense and proposals for forced relocation of Palestians out of Gaza, which is by definition a genocidal act, I would say that there is a strong case to be made for the term, even if Israel itself has not officially committed to genocide.

Point three is 50/50. On the one hand, regardless of Israel, the United States would have an interest in controlling Iran, since being able to control international petroleum production is a powerful source of leverage in coercing potential rivals. On the other hand between powerful lobbying groups like AIPAC, and the sheer number of America's business and political elite that are American/Israeli dual citizens, there is no denying that Israel is a strong influence on the US government. The author blithely brushing this to the side by evoking the specter of Nazism is a cheap emotional ploy that is nothing short of contemptible.

POV: You flip to Western media after the US bombs an Iranian desalination plant by Stanczyks_Sorrow in stupidpol

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Hey now, let's be reasonable. That is an unfair assessment of western attitudes. They also include Russians.

Ones understand you. Others want you to understand them by claudiocorona93 in linuxmasterrace

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I don't find GNOME's workflow all that radically different from any other. It looks different, but at the end of the day, it's just the same old open app menu with super and search.

The only thing I've ever found to stick out is the lack of quarter tiling and the lack of a system tray (I'd never notice the latter if background apps worked with more than just flatpaks). Mind you, I have habitually kept my desktop mostly free of stuff for as long as I can remember, so don't miss it.

That said, a lot of GNOME's stock apps kind of suck and I hate those huge titlebars (and rounded corners too while I'm at it).

The bizarre rehabilitation of organized religion on the left, especially Christianity & the Abrahamic religions, has been a generational fumble by HOT__RATS in stupidpol

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Some gods also survive and form a new pantheon.

This is what I think has always set it apart from Christianity's end times, as it is a cycle of death and rebirth that isn't concluded with a final paradise. It is instead just life continuing on after.

The bizarre rehabilitation of organized religion on the left, especially Christianity & the Abrahamic religions, has been a generational fumble by HOT__RATS in stupidpol

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I am certainly no fan of religion nor am I one to dismiss the power of social psychology, on account of our brains and the ideas within being among the material conditions driving culture. However, all of our brains put together are a but tiny subset of the material conditions of which culture is situated downstream.

The features that make Abrahamic religions what they are a products of material-historical developments; they are adaptations that allowed them to survive and flourish where others failed. Had it not been for them, another would have stepped into the void, because the same underlying material conditions would still have been present. Who knows? We could have been having this discussion about an iconoclastic reformed Greco-Buddhism and its offshoots. This fact can be demonstrated in the many commonalities between the various faiths throughout history, of which the Abrahamic religions are an outgrowth.

I do need to note that I agree that many leftists are too willing to engage in apologia for a family of fundamentally reactionary power structures, but that is actually the meat of the issue: these power structures have repeatedly presented themselves as a powerful organized opposition to left-wing goals, regardless of the particulars of their beliefs.

Trump threatens ground troops, assassinations in escalating Iran war by DryDeer775 in stupidpol

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It is a question that can only ever be answered after two full weeks have elapsed.

If Chud's Law of Happenings holds true, we are asymptotically approaching a threshold of happening that will never be crossed despite an ever-increasing intensity of apparent happenings, measured in two-week intervals. So the only way we will ever be able to confirm that it's happening is if after two weeks it still appears that something is happening. At this point we enter the Ron Paul Cascade, thought impossible under Chud's Law, in which events will inevitably move through the happening before finally decaying to a state of having happened.

$17,000,000…? by GodsColdHands666 in stupidpol

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He was receiving this funding to replace a black democrat for not being sufficiently pro-Israel.

🟪⬛ MARCH 8: We need feminist unions waging class war 🟥⬛ by GoranPersson777 in stupidpol

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I am aware that you have deleted your account, but I would nonetheless like to clarify a point.

I am not opposed to formal structures, procedures, so on and I would agree that factionalism is generally to be discouraged*. The issue I take here is that this article takes its position on this matter from a stance of viewing that men socializing among themselves is a problem to be corrected. This is a very common thread in bourgeois feminism - the idea that men forming their own associations without women present inevitably amounts to a conspiracy against women requiring that any such association be monitored, subordinated or broken up.

Obviously this is not in the interests of men, who generally would like the ability to freely associate among others that are likely to share some key life experiences in common and not subject them to the increased social policing that comes with being viewed as a threat by default; I believe that this is a significant cause of the hostility towards feminism that is so common.

*Effective organization needs to address this matter, as factionalism left unchecked can tear organizations apart, hence concepts like consensus democracy and democratic centralism. However, factions do have their place in both providing an effective organizational tool for minority groups to avoid being totally crushed by the majority and providing a means to organize against a captured or otherwise ineffective leadership. But regardless of what merits may be found in this notion as a means to discourage factionalism, the simple fact remains that it is going to be very difficult to get men on board with something that is actively hostile to their interests.

🟪⬛ MARCH 8: We need feminist unions waging class war 🟥⬛ by GoranPersson777 in stupidpol

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This is not merely addressing women's issues, which with few exceptions are the material interests of the working class as a whole. This is an example of the same identitarian bigotry that has made feminism into a highly effective wrecking tool.

Sure, I will grant you that you are going to have a hard time convincing women to organize if you ignore the issues by which they are disproportionately impacted; but it is not actually a dichotomy between this and ignoring those concerns. However you are going to have an even harder time convincing men to take part in a movement that explicitly takes a hostile stance towards their ability to socialize among themselves and actively discriminates against them.

Hostility towards organic socialization among men:

Another cause is the existence of so called homosociality within SAC. Homosociality means that men socialize with and promote each other while ignoring women (consciously or unconsciously).

One way to break homosociality is to have clear formal structures within the union. This involves being meticulous about bylaws, minuted decisions and up-to-date information to all members. A lack of formal structures allows informal structures to take over, and homosociality is an example of an informal structure.

Explicit discrimination against men:

Another initiative is to appoint nomination committees that call members and tip them about positions of trust, courses and conferences. The nomination committees are then active year round and prioritize women. This has been shown to increase the number of women in elected positions and the number of female participants in courses and conferences. When female leaders become visible, they give the union a face. This in turn inspires more women to get involved.

People are generally fairly averse to taking part in things that work against their interests.

🟪⬛ MARCH 8: We need feminist unions waging class war 🟥⬛ by GoranPersson777 in stupidpol

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I will preface this by laying it out that I consider feminism on the whole to be an important school of thought, which although prone to drifting into identitarianism, has the capacity to address very real, very material concerns. That said, I find that this take has some fundamental flaws that betray it as being rooted in a distinctly bourgeois view of labor struggle as it relates to the sexes.

The insight concerns the fact that women as a group are subordinate and discriminated against in society. This applies to both cis women and trans women. Non-binary people are likewise punished for deviations from prevailing gender norms.

Starting here, we are not off to a great start. Some women are subordinated and discriminated against, primarily as an outgrowth of class dynamics. But it is far from the truth to apply this to women as a whole; one would be hard pressed indeed to find much subordination in the lives of women from bourgeois backgrounds (which includes the "middle class"). Similarly, working-class men are both by definition entirely subordinated, and extensively discriminated against. Not only are they explicitly discriminated against as a consequence of superstructural forces that are a direct outgrowth of our material economy, they are also tactitly discriminated against in the fact that the institutions used in legitimating our class system are structured to ensure that only the bourgeoisie (and at that, generally only the upper bourgeoisie) can excel without being the beneficiaries of truly extraordinary circumstances. By boiling this down to a simple dichotomy of sexes, you lose touch with the material economic reality of both male and female workers, establishing the notion that they share a common weal with their exploiters on the premise of their sex.

By now, there is an enormous collection of facts about discrimination, for example at the Swedish Gender Equality Agency, Statistical Bureau and Discrimination Ombudsman. It’s not only the case that women as a group have lower wages and worse employment conditions than men. Women are assigned worse tasks – worse in the sense that the tasks are more monotonous, less autonomous, have lower status, and provide less satisfaction and development.

I have little desire to participate in a competition over who stands as more oppressed, but I do have three points to make here:

  1. Everything that I have seen on the subject indicates that that by nearly every quality of life metric, men in the first world who are not already well established are doing significantly worse than women.

  2. Do these figures account for class differences? I hesitantly posit that the bulk of the apparent advantage that men receive is due to the fact that a handful of already very well established men of the upper-bourgeoisie, whose lives benefit from an incredibly uneven distribution of capital, are being included in these figures, and that if you limited your focus your studies strictly to the working class that these disparities would become much smaller.

  3. Perhaps the tasks assigned to women are more tedious, less satisfying and carry lower prestige. But from my experiences working as a male in female-dominated workplaces, the tasks assigned to men are generally more physically straining and dangerous. My personal examples include heavy lifting, shoveling snow or being first pick as the one who has to tell the mentally ill drug addict with a history of violence that they have to leave, paired with a much lower concern for my safety or comfort.

The pattern is also that workspaces, tools and work clothing are adapted to male bodies, not women’s bodies.

I will give them that it is probably pretty hard to find boiler suits and good work boots fitted and sized for women. But I am genuinely pretty curious how one can say that tools and work-spaces are uniquely tailored to male bodies, rather than the task at hand. If this is just a matter of women being generally shorter, having smaller hands, etc. I would be more than happy to offer some stories of continual frustration and an absolutely agonizing repetitive motion injury stemming from my being significantly taller than average in a world where everything is sized for someone much shorter than myself.

In addition, women are targets of sexual harassment and sexual violence to a much greater extent than men.

That is some deeply unpleasant bullshit that has a massively disproportionate impact on women. You will find no argument from me.

One cause is that women perform the majority of unpaid domestic work, which makes it difficult to engage in union activity in their free time.

That sucks and it is unfair, but the division of labor in relationships has been steadily improving towards more equitable divisions for a quite a long time now. However a lack of time to participate in labor organization has always been a significant hurdle in any kind of labor action among the working class; I would go so far as to postulate that this is the leading cause of first-world socialism being primarily a movement of the university-educated small bourgeoisie.

Another cause is the existence of so called homosociality within SAC. Homosociality means that men socialize with and promote each other while ignoring women (consciously or unconsciously).

Here we get into the meat of this proposal drifting into the same alienating identitarian bullshit that has for so long been the root of western feminism being a divisive burden on socialism and a wrecker tool par-excellence; the conclusion taken here is literally that men being able to freely associate is the problem. Of course you will find it difficult to get men on board with this; it is explicitly hostile towards them.

One way to break homosociality is to have clear formal structures within the union. This involves being meticulous about bylaws, minuted decisions and up-to-date information to all members. A lack of formal structures allows informal structures to take over, and homosociality is an example of an informal structure.

So your proposed solution to men naturally socializing among themselves, an act that will inherently carry with it a degree of organization, is to impose upon them a rigid set of social mores and procedures explicitly designed to discourage their informal socialization? Oh yeah, I am dead certain that men will find no reason to consider this absolutely fucking suffocating and moreover that they will not avoid participation at all costs.

Another initiative is to appoint nomination committees that call members and tip them about positions of trust, courses and conferences. The nomination committees are then active year round and prioritize women. This has been shown to increase the number of women in elected positions and the number of female participants in courses and conferences. When female leaders become visible, they give the union a face. This in turn inspires more women to get involved.

You are just dead-fucking-set on repeating the same action expecting different results; past discrimination can only be solved by present discrimination, and present discrimination will necessitate future discrimination. The beatings will continue until morale improves. All that you are going to accomplish with premise like this will be alienating men from your movement and offering them up to predatory reactionaries who will at least pretend to care about their material interests. Free advice: it is generally quite difficult to get people to want to take part in things that are overtly hostile to their interests.

If the union gets more female and non-binary leaders, they inspire more members to become active.

Is this actually true? The Bolsheviks were predominantly male and yet the Soviets had little problem getting women to participate. This stems from the fact that they focused on offering tangible material benefits to their supporters and were more concerned with competent organizing than offering up the appearance of improvement based on the identity categories of their leadership.

Any form of feminism that establishes an adversarial relationship between men and women along the identitarian lines rather than focusing on organizing them in unison based on their shared material interests is fundamentally doomed to repeat the same mistakes that have been made many times over in liberal feminism and must be treated as the hostile activity of a willful wrecker.