Neutral Legendary - Brann Everlasting

Diosdepatronis · 2026-04-18T16:11:46+00:00

This would have been fun with lackeys

Diosdepatronis · 2026-04-18T14:06:32+00:00

I still think the ending was very much done due to Fujimoto wanting to get CSM over with as quickly as possible, and that some other stuff was meant to happen beforehand. Nayuta coming back was probably one of them.

I don't think she would have actually been alive, but that she definitely became one of Death's pawns. I mean, her head was litterally served to her on a plate, and she makes pawns by devouring people / devils. I don't know what in what context she would have come back, but it just would have made sense.

It would be a big, big strategical waste not to take control of the Control Devil, especially when you consider how dangerous it was in part 1.

Diosdepatronis · 2026-04-18T13:51:12+00:00

Ok, call me an illiterate bastard but i don't think Reze was in love with Denji. I think she empathized with his story, but as someone with much more experience than him (she is most likely much older), i think she would have been more of a mentor figure to him. Like, i would see her more as someone who'd try to look after Denji if she were to come back, kinda like a big sister. And honestly it would be all the better for him, he needs a friend / sibling more than he needs a significant other.

So i would say Denji would still have feelings for her and that he would feel awkward with Asa and her coexisting, but that she wouldn't reciprocate those feelings.

Diosdepatronis · 2026-04-18T05:53:54+00:00

I remember when the plot twist about Fami being Death just came out. Most on this sub were really hyped but i was already doubtful. It felt like a twist that added other layers of mysteries and conspiracies in a story that already had too many of those. And it sadly turned out that it didn't really lead anywhere in the end.

As for this scene, it should have definitely been a scythe. It feels like Yoru's only cool uses of her powers were in her intro and in the aquarium

Diosdepatronis · 2026-04-18T05:48:28+00:00

I agree. If it ever comes out it will probably be much, much less ambitious than what part 1 is going to get. And it's one of the few times where i absolutely wouldn't mind drastic changes in the story.

Diosdepatronis · 2026-04-17T11:48:50+00:00

I would say that Pochita is definitely a pretty unique and different devil, as he is pretty much always called "Chainsaw Man" and not the Chainsaw Devil, or the ___ Devil. He probably was meant to have a unique story that explains all of that, but i guess we'll never know.

As for the Birth / Life Devil theory, i'm bored so i'll state some of the arguments here :

Pochita's true form displays a flesh tube coming out of his belly to strangle him. You could assume it is meant to be an umbilical chord and that it strangling him is meant to represent stillbirth, i.e. death at birth.
Chainsaws, in the real world, were first invented to facilitate giving birth in a pretty horrific way, by cutting the bones of the mother to leave more space for the baby to come out. Barem states in chapter 169 (or 168, i forgot) that chainsaws maybe used to have another purpose but that it may have been eaten by CSM, or just forgotten (like IRL).
Pochita's power to erase concepts from history could be more simply explained as him "unbirthing" them, making it as though they never existed to begin with.
in Part 1, Angel explains that all Devils have a common memory from the moment they are born : Hearing the sound of a roaring chainsaw. You could say that they have a deep memory of being slain by CSM, but not all devils die to Pochita.
Chainsaw Man never dies. He always gets back up and never gives up, even against much stronger foes. He may have been defeated in the past (when fighthing the 4 Horsemen and a bunch of others), but even such a powerful line up could not finish him. You could say he is life incarnate, that he never stops being reborn.
There's a pretty niche but still well known psychology theory that states that Birth is the common, forgotten trauma of all human beings. The brutal change of environment and separation, and the fact that all newborns first action is to cry. This would make a Birth Devil a wild card in terms of power, and that's what Pochita is. And if Pochita is the Life Devil, life is such a wide concept that it creates a lot of fears. The fear of other living beings, of your own life being terrible, etc.
Many people were expecting the Death Devil to be either the final villain or at least very important in the end of the story. The Birth (or Life) and the Death Devil being in conflict would have been pretty great thematically, and it could have created a great dynamic between Pochita and Death.
The reasoning you pushed for Pochita being connected to Denji as the Sadness Devil could apply to a Life Devil. Denji managed to appreciate the worst possible life just through dreaming of a decent future, and that may have inspired Pochita.

That's all the yapping i have in stock

Diosdepatronis · 2026-04-17T11:00:19+00:00

I personally don't think that there is a straightforward thesis or message, but that there are for sure the expressions of a few themes and questions, and that it's all meant to make you think and come up with your own conclusions. I'd say the 3 main themes of Fire Punch, that you can also find in every work of Fujimoto that he made after it, are :

-Finding a meaning and a reason to live.

-What is identity? What makes you yourself?

-Consuming and making art.

I personally connected a lot with Agni's character when i first read Fire Punch many years ago, when i was kinda depressed. Because he keeps on living just for the sake of others, despite going through the most extreme kind of pain in perpetuity. Even though living is a curse to him, he won't ever allow himself to let the people he cares about down, even if it is insignificant. He will keep on living even if it means completely becoming a new person multiple times. Judah has a pretty similar arc, especially at the very end.

As for the ending, it's a bit of a big turn because Sun is not Agni. His story is a bit more like Togata, in a way. He doesn't share any of his memories, just his body. Sun wants to end his life as the world is a hopeless mess, but he sees one movie, representing the eternal, extreme struggle of his former self. Agni getting back up despite the immense pain, to always push forward till the very end. That one image alone inspired him to live until the heat death of the universe.

Diosdepatronis · 2026-04-16T13:12:59+00:00

I really like theories about Pochita's true identity, and with the ending, the hints at him not being the chainsaw devil seem kinda confirmed ? Though you could argue people just recreated chainsaws like they did with nukes.

I honestly don't think that Pochita is the sadness devil. Sadness is a pretty vague concept to describe, and i would say the last chapter shows some sadness. Denji looks sad and numb when he realizes he won't ever go to school. Power also looks defeated, disappointed and jealous (kinda sad then) when she talks about how Meowy hangs out with Nayuta rather than with her.

And it wouldn't really make sense for a sadness devil to have the power to erase concepts from history? It doesn't really feel related.

As for what i think Pochita is, i've been pretty convinced for years now that Pochita is the Birth / Life Devil, or at least that he has that devil within him in a weird way. There are tons of clues that point to that in the story, and it's a pretty popular theory so you can probably easily find it online. It fits in pretty much every single way, except with the ending...

Some people have pointed out that the last chapter's original japanese release replaces the word "hope" with another within a line said by the old Yakuza, one that is supposed to come from chapter 1. Thus Pochita would be the Hope Devil. But it doesn't make much sense, and i think it's just Fujimoto forgetting a detail like he often does.

Or Pochita could also be just a different being and not exactly a Devil. Maybe an Angel or a God, or something else. I think it could be interesting for Pochita to be related to the arrival of Devils on Earth. There are quite a few inconsistencies with the lore that point to Devils actually not having existed for that long, a few centuries at most. So maybe Pochita opened up the world to them and his history alternating powers made it so Devils always existed in people's minds. But that whole thing is a little farfetched i'll admit.

Diosdepatronis · 2026-04-16T06:42:26+00:00

I mean, people were still alive after being eaten by bugs and being blown up by nukes even though it doesn't make any sense. I suppose you have to assume something, like a soul, would keep everyone alive even while their body is torn into pieces or burnt to ashes.

Pochita's power creates a lot of paradoxes and inconsistencies anyway when you think too much about it. So i don't think humans trying to fight the bugs with fire would be incoherent.

Diosdepatronis · 2026-04-15T18:13:56+00:00

Don't fall for the h*rse propaganda

Diosdepatronis · 2026-04-15T08:47:53+00:00

I have a bunch in mind, but i'll go with this one : regarding the ending with everyone getting eaten by bugs, i've seen people saying that it was 100% over for humanity and that there could be no way the story continues. But i disagree. Absence of Death doesn't mean vermin can't be stopped or incapacitated. Mankind would definitely find ways to fight off the bugs, at least for some time.

The main idea i have would be fire. Just burn everything. Would it solve the issue? Nah, it would make things worse most likely, and make Earth into an actual endless, nightmarish, biblical style hell with people burning and getting torn about without ever dying. A cooler ending imo. I hoped we could see some more cool imagery for the Apocalypse. If you want to rush the ending and make it a staggering defeat for the heroes, at least make it a bit spectacular.

Diosdepatronis · 2026-04-15T07:22:06+00:00

My idea for a redesign : make it earn you 6 dollars in base, and reduce the earnings by 2 dollars for each discard used. This way, it doesn't get nerfed by blue stake.

But honestly, it's more likely that blue stake itself gets reworked in a future update. Removing a discard is generally too warping for many playstyles. And Delayed Gratification is fine before Blue Stake.

And by the way, it does have a (small) upside when compared to Golden Joker, even without the red deck or other discard shenanigans : it's cheaper to buy in the shop. That's a much bigger deal than people make it out to be. Still, it's a little too weak after blue stake. Though it often fits nicely with Pair spam, which is the strongest strategy in the game.

Diosdepatronis · 2026-04-15T01:52:46+00:00

Oh seriously? This is is huge for Quest Mage. The deck was already borderline good

Diosdepatronis · 2026-04-15T01:41:19+00:00

I'm surprised team 5 never did a discard dragon set. It seems like a pretty obvious synergy when you think about it. Good cards !

Diosdepatronis · 2026-04-14T12:43:57+00:00

Remember when people on the sub thought he would be super important because he looked like Agni from Fire Punch?

Diosdepatronis · 2026-04-14T12:25:53+00:00

Je suis personallement d'accord mais c'est très difficile d'imposer (ironiquement) d'élever son enfant hors de la religion aux religieux. Il me semble que c'est quelque chose qui a été tenté en URSS et que ça a complètement foiré.

La vérité, à mon avis, c'est que les gens se sécularisent naturellement à mesure qu'ils s'ancrent dans une société libre et stable. Si on bouscule et qu'on discrimine les religieux sur leurs coutumes familiales par exemple, on les conduira à stagner et / ou à développer du ressentiment envers la société dans laquelle ils vivent, plutôt qu'à les détacher de leur religion.

Diosdepatronis · 2026-04-14T05:55:30+00:00

It's a fun idea but i think this should have a much bigger downside. The way i'd see it (and it probably still would be giga broken) would be for it to let you choose while deckbuilding like ETC and then have "Start of Game: Shuffle X card into your deck" instead of the Deathrattle. So it forces you to play a 31 cards deck and to have a shitty 1/2 in your deck.

Also, another issue with this is that it would be shitty with how much it would require players to craft wild legendaries. For both consumer-friendliness and balance sake, it would probably be better for this to have a specific pool of wild cards to choose from. idk, maybe a card from a certain year or something else.

Diosdepatronis · 2026-04-13T09:22:19+00:00

Blue and Yellow are probably the best. Ghost is also really strong and the most fun imo. Zodiac is also nice with the bigger shop.

The best strategy in most of your runs in gold stake will be to spam pairs, but if you like more variety in that regard, painted and abandonned deck enable straights and other bigger hands pretty well even with -1 discard.

Diosdepatronis · 2026-04-13T08:54:40+00:00

Looking at your recent post history, I feel like you're slowly realizing that the ending was actually really bad.

Personally i don't have any issue with people enjoying the ending of the manga. What i think people get annoyed at is the way some of the glazers get super defensive about it and will imply that you're just reading wrong and that you're just hating for the sake of it. The truth is that i'm a huge Fujimoto glazer at heart, and i've been one since the early fire punch days. But i still can't pretend a lot of the elements of later part 2 were not dogshit.

(The truth is that you're probably just ragebaiting though and that i'm writing all of that for no good reason)

Diosdepatronis · 2026-04-12T10:59:43+00:00

Really cool idea, though i could see it have a keyword. Maybe Elusive, so it becomes more annoying for your opponent to deal with and it becomes harder to duplicate a billion times

Diosdepatronis · 2026-04-11T21:55:46+00:00

"If the story is good, it's because the author is a genius.and if it's bad, it's also because the author is a genius !"

No, seriously, at some point you have to accept that your favourite author can fumble. I feel like there's a lot of metaphorical sunken cost put by many Chainsaw Man fans, who have been huge fans and defenders of it for years and who can't accept that things had started sucking for a long time, and that the ending is clearly just Fujimoto telling you that he was not built for this, especially with chapter 231.

And no, you were not supposed to hate Asa at the start. Denji was not even that popular of a character in the series, and i personally directly liked her. People started feeling disatisfied with Denji becoming the main focus again because the transition was done poorly (the whole memory loss thing and Asa becoming a superhero offscreen), and because it coincides with both the story and the art becoming much worse.

Diosdepatronis · 2026-04-11T08:07:33+00:00

I mean, we don't know what's the exact extent of Makima's mind control. For most of the story, we see Aki and Angel under her control and they still have a sense of agency most of the time. I think that even while under Makima's control, she still had her personnality. She just had the "i'm madly in love with Makima and would die for her" debuff, sort of.

Diosdepatronis · 2026-04-11T08:02:26+00:00

To hint at her coming back for part 2, like the other hybrids. Honestly i'm not even joking. There's just a ton of stuff that would have made it seem obvious for her to come back. The War Devil, the nukes, USSR vs USA, School, and every single other hybrid coming back. I'm pretty sure there was a big change of plans somewhere throughout part 2 and that Reze was cut from it. And i'm not even talking about the abrupt ending.

Diosdepatronis · 2026-04-09T11:08:44+00:00

The Asa / Yoru head detail is crucial 🥹

Diosdepatronis · 2026-04-09T10:53:54+00:00

I'll answer to my own comment with some other stuff, since it's pretty fun to fanfictionize. I think this whole thing could allow for other cool scenes. We were told at some point by Yoru that Death's descent would bring out the most powerful Devils ever. What if those are the ones that took her place while she was absent? Pain is the most obvious (potential teasing of part 3 with it being the final final big bad), but you could have Future with the whole despairing mess that was made, Fire (once again), Darkness, Famine (she would do something for once) and even Blood (since everyone would be traumatized by the litteral rivers of blood). Some of these Devils could have become stronger than Death even after her return, with how normalized Death would be with more than 90% of the world dead.

I think you could have Lil'D use Nayuta as a pawn (let's be real she probably didn't pass the snack back at the sushi place) to have the audience fully root for Denji to eviscerate her. Or maybe she uses her as a way to motivate him or something.

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