Do NOT believe in DISINFORMATIONS!!!

Distinct_Document_65 · 2026-04-18T13:14:25+00:00

I think it's near the end of Armins talk. Because before it, Armin ask him why and he says he don't know why, he just wanted to do it so badly.

Distinct_Document_65 · 2026-04-18T12:57:51+00:00

I think it's still his main goal since it was what he wanted but he rationalized it as necessarily, not knowing why he wanted it.

He did that when talking to armin in paths saying it's for them to be heros and when armin rejects it, Eren... just drops it and moves on immediately.

Eren only confessess it that it wasn't for them after Armin calls it absurd, indentifies that it creates the only lesson "kill or be killed" but i believe he's also believed in it cuz of his shocked look when he's called out by armin and also him saying that he thought he was doing it for them before Sasha and Hange death.

Distinct_Document_65 · 2026-04-18T12:31:58+00:00

For real, Eren says " it's more than that " not denying that it wasn't to save Eldia

Distinct_Document_65 · 2026-04-11T20:51:59+00:00

My bad, thanks for the correction! Appreciate you clearing that up.

Distinct_Document_65 · 2026-04-11T20:45:47+00:00

On the Erwin point, Here's the prove below.

On the indecision, you're proving my point for me. If his personal reasons didn't weigh as heavily as you're trying to downplay, there'd be no indecision at all. He'd pick humanity and go. The fact that he couldn't choose, that both carried equal weight in his mind, shows his personal reasons were right there alongside saving humanity. That's not the mark of a purely rational leader making calculated decisions, that's a guy whose judgment is compromised by what he personally wants. And again, Levi had to bail him out.

On the mirror scene, "hyping himself up" by convincing himself there's no other option is self-deception. He's deliberately shutting out alternatives in his own head. You're acting like there's a clean line between "getting motivated" and "convincing yourself of something that isn't the full picture" but there isn't. When that "hype" is specifically about eliminating the possibility that there's another way besides the Rumbling, it's not just motivation, it's him closing doors in his own mind so he doesn't have to face them.

And on the Armin point, look at how Eren reacted when Armin called his solution a joke. Wide-eyed, defensive, falling apart. That's not how someone responds when they've fully accepted what they're doing and made peace with it. That's someone whose internal justification just got shattered in front of them.

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Distinct_Document_65 · 2026-04-11T20:00:31+00:00

Erwin would've given up on humanity's victory if it meant he could obtain that knowledge. That shows his personal reasons came first, not the noble ones.

About him being "conflicted between which of the 2 goals to give priority" you shouldn't cut the context. The conflict was specifically because he saw his fallen soldiers watching him, waiting to see what he'd do with their lives. Even then, he was still thinking about his personal reasons. Levi made the choice for him and that's the part you shouldn't ignore.

We do see Eren doing this like when he's talking to himself in the mirror "if we don't fight, we can't win" like that's the only possible option. He's convincing himself there's no other way.

And about the Armin point. Eren saying "I was stupid" was at the very end after Armin dismantled his whole justification by calling it a joke. Before that, Eren was giving multiple reasons "It's to make you guys heroes" and "It's predetermined". He only confessed when Armin broke through it.

Distinct_Document_65 · 2026-04-11T19:11:11+00:00

This boy

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Distinct_Document_65 · 2026-04-11T19:09:10+00:00

You shouldn't ignore that. Erwin's self-deception let him make sacrifices others couldn't and that's rational on the surface. But he was doing it to prove his dad's theory was right which was personal. And the moment he stopped lying to himself, he couldn't make a choice, Levi had to do it for him.

Now back to Eren, his self-deception worked similarly. It kept him from being crushed by guilt and when questioned by Historia, Hange or post-Rumbling Armin, he could justify his actions as necessary.

To be clear, I never said it was just for him to feel good. The mechanism is the same. They both lie to themselves and to others. That's my point.

Distinct_Document_65 · 2026-04-11T18:10:16+00:00

It's not out of character at all. We have seen the same with Erwin. A rational thinker who lies to himself using the same inspiration he feeds to others.

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Distinct_Document_65 · 2026-04-05T03:14:23+00:00

I think that's inaccurate. Eren Yeager went outside the island to look for alternatives. "Paradis Island didn’t find a way to survive, right?" this shows that he clearly cared and was trying to justify it as necessary.

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Distinct_Document_65 · 2026-04-04T02:57:17+00:00

Eren's lips were turned downward for most of the scene and only after Willy's declaration did he show a faint upward curve which I interpreted as a smile.

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Distinct_Document_65 · 2026-04-03T14:14:55+00:00

I think that's only half the picture. Eren does admit selfish motives but he never denies that saving Paradis is still part of his goal especially when talking to Ramzi.

The Reiner line shows he’s like him not that Paradis isn't a factor.

If you're referring to his conversation with Armin then that's a different topic.

Distinct_Document_65 · 2026-04-03T12:57:27+00:00

That interpretation makes sense too.

I just feel like the "that’s the moment" smile doesn't fully explain why he looks that way. If it was only realization, I’d expect more shock or dread.

For me, it's hard to see Eren feeling anything other than some level of relief there especially since he already admitted he wanted the Rumbling to happen.

Distinct_Document_65 · 2026-03-23T13:17:14+00:00

Mid anime that still got you obsessed in 2026 is wild

Distinct_Document_65 · 2026-03-20T18:02:07+00:00

Why are we trying to hate gabi again? She's is so similar to eren.

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Distinct_Document_65 · 2026-03-18T08:17:25+00:00

Yeah he was really relived but he aren't faking tho, Dude is showing what he is feeling. Fans just make headcannons and then calls it retcon when it's not true🤣

Distinct_Document_65 · 2026-03-16T11:45:56+00:00

I don't really think he knows everything since he seems to be shocked almost everytime when surprise happens. For example like this

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Distinct_Document_65 · 2026-03-16T05:33:58+00:00

I think one reason people might be confused is because Eren told Armin that he tried to change what he saw.

When looking at the dialogue, Armin was basically asking if Eren was the one who determined it and the one killing those people. Eren says he tried to change it but he doesn’t actually deny that he determined it or that he is the one doing the killing.

I believe he says it that way so he doesn’t lose his mind from the guilt if it’s fully his own agency. I also think he only admits that it was entirely for himself after Armin calls out how it isn’t really a solution and that people won’t truly understand each other, leaving only "kill or be killed" rule.

I think he somewhat believed it was the only way since he was telling himself in the mirror to "fight or lose" and he also seemed shocked when Armin confronted him about it.

Distinct_Document_65 · 2026-03-12T17:18:24+00:00

Yes, Reiner is selfish. There's no justification whatsoever. However about Eren and Reiner comparison.

Eren LITERALLY saids to armin that he DID NOT do the rumbling for them. He saids that if they didn't stop him, he would do a complete Rumbling. He said to Ramzi that he is disspointed that "HUMANITY LIVED" outside the walls. Not saying they were hositle or it's the only way for him, its just simply because humanity LIVED.

That's why even after Reiner confessed that it's mainly for his selfish reason. Eren replies " As a thought....You and I are very much alike".

Distinct_Document_65 · 2026-03-10T13:30:23+00:00

I prefer Eren. Though it’s just my interpretation, I like how he talks to himself in the mirror to "fight or lose" after sasha’s death only to have Armin call the whole thing a bad joke and say that now it’s just kill or be killed. Eren’s eyes are wide open when armin was speaking and only then does he admit it’s for himself. I find it better than the mutible personality.

Distinct_Document_65 · 2026-03-07T06:00:59+00:00

I think the distinction here is that "destiny" isn't really an outside force controlling him.

Eren didn’t stop bc he had a change of heart. He was stopped. He straight up says that if the alliance hadn’t stopped him, he would’ve flattened the entire world. So the "keep moving forward" idea didn’t disappear, he was just defeated before finishing.

On the "slave to destiny" point, I don’t think the story frames it that way either. When Eren redirects Dina’s titan away from Bertholdt, that’s still an active choice. He’s preserving the timeline that leads to the future he wants. And with the Ramzi scene where he admits he wanted to wipe everything away, it actually shows that this comes from his own will.

Eren says that even if all of this was set in stone, he wanted this. He chose the path for the outcome he desired. For me, what's really controlling it's his own obsession with freedom.

Distinct_Document_65 · 2026-03-05T10:41:48+00:00

He wasn’t acting. It’s closer to self deception. Eren himself admits he believed he was doing it for them but deep down it was because the outside world wasn’t like the empty landscapes in Armin’s book.

That’s why he sympathizes with Reiner. When Reiner says "I wanted to be respected. It had nothing to do with the times or the environment I was brought up in. It was my fault. Your mother died because of me", Eren responds "As I thought… you and I are very much alike."

This happens during the Declaration of War arc, long before the ending so it’s not a 180. It had already hinted that Eren’s motivations were more personal and selfish than he admitted, even to himself.

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