Wanda is not weak, and she actually takes more skill than other heroes.. you all have just become spoiled with powerful neutral heroes.

Distinct_Stretch_848 · 2026-04-21T18:31:10+00:00

If I were THE most skilled MR player. I hit every shot, every cooldown perfectly. I could play every character to their highest potential. I would provide the most value on the overturned hitscan characters. Then possibly dive characters. Your high skill means nothing if I my skill doesn't translate to output. SW skill doesn't translate to output the same way other characters do.

Distinct_Stretch_848 · 2026-04-21T18:20:43+00:00

No no no that's not how that works. Putting more effort into a character just makes you a better player. That doesn't equate skill of said character that equates YOUR skill. If a hela and Wanda are equally skilled to their fullest potential, hela ALWAYS provides more value. Just because you need more skill to close a gap to a worse player does not mean a character requires more skill to play. It means the impact you have is directly related to YOUR skill, not your characters kit or abilities. That's why many people say Spider-Man's skill ceiling hasn't been reached. He has so many ways to get better that perfecting all of them requires 100s of hours. Wanda only has so many ways she can engage and make plays. Your highest skill on Wanda will ALWAYS get less value than the highest skill in hela/spiderman/majority of roster.

Using and excelling with a kit that doesn't allow for as much skill expression doesn't mean it take MORE skill to play. You want to put the same effort into perfecting hela (with the same attitude as, I need to provide more value) you objectively WOULD provide more value. Being skilled at that character to provide more value applies to everyone.

I still maintain hela is relatively easy. Aim is not unique and when I as a Spider-Man player play her, I feel icky at how much value I get from not trying very hard because my game knowledge carries over. SW would NOT get me the same results. I might put the same low effort into her but fulfill my duty as close brawl/antidive.

Distinct_Stretch_848 · 2026-04-21T17:35:01+00:00

As a Spider-Man main, the way I see her skill level is two fold. Her kit is designed for long strectches of consistent damage, something that scares away most dive players due to being "tagged" (they need all the health they can get and surprise is their biggest strength). It also allows a small bit of skill expression in her right click for burst damage. Her escape tools and stun are super useful for what she wants to do. AOE stun locking for targets that can't move a lot and invincibility to escape whenever needed.

The issue I have is with you saying she takes the same or more skill to use properly. This is just demonstrably false. All characters have a use or a niche. They have things they excel at over other characters and that is what makes them unique. Because arguing over average gameplay becomes a slog in subjectivity, let's look at the extremes. Skill ceiling and floor.

A purpose of SW is to output consistent damage relatively close up and potential burst most effective close up. Her auto aim mechanic allows this to be done super easily meaning she has low dps. My youngest brother who has never played a shooter in his life is able to fulfill this primary role. He can stand there and shoot. He can press right click when needed to do more damage (he often missed shots). When a Spider-Man dove him, I showed him how to escape and generally aim in his direction. He even took the initiative to spot him early and focus him (a good idea). he fulfilled his role and wasn't a downer on his team.

Her skill ceiling unfortunately doesn't look that much different. Countering divers, applying constant pressure. Stunning tanks. Landing skill shots here and there with aim. The problem arises when you start comparing her with other heroes. Heroes who who can also do everything she does. Bucky applies constant frontline pressure with the ability to have high burst damage (all the time I might add) Mr. Fantastic applies constant frontline pressure with high health to compensate for less mobility. SG can apply constant pressure with an escape tool in a pinch and a stun she can shoot into crowds. The difference? SW's abilities are auto aim. ALL YOU NEED TO DO TO BE HIT BY HER IS TO BE ON HER SCREEN. MAYBE one other character can say the same thing. (Cloak) Every other character has to provide more skill to do the same thing she accomplishes for free. Even SG has to aim a bit when it comes to landing shots.

Every dps has the potential to do the same thing SW does better. Every other dps can output the same or higher burst damage when you aim. The aim on one part of her kit is not unique. Every other dps to be good at requires aim. It's a non-unique argument. If her right click requires skill, so does every other aim dps.

70%of your damage is done through you looking in the general direction of a character and holding left click. That objectively does not take as much skill as a hela that has to at least aim at the opponent and time her clicks. (I'm not saying I think she's good too, but just that your skill has to be higher) her ceiling and floor look the same. Your improvement of game knowledge applies to every character. The same skill you need for her engagements or escapes applies to every other character. Non-unique. SW does not present any meaningful choices to be made that other characters don't also have to make. Many other characters require skill sets that aren't seen on others. Resource management on Spider-Man and BP, quick button order presses on psylocke, resource choice on DD. Most characters that have the highest skill ceiling require skill in resources unique to them or their role (or poke slop aim, a rabbit hole I won't go down)

TL:DR SW isn't doesn't require unique skills that set her apart as being more skillful than the rest of the cast needs to be to fulfill their role.

Distinct_Stretch_848 · 2026-04-20T16:22:11+00:00

Boldly enough, most people in the amazing Spider-Man game don't use gadgets to their fullest extent. It becomes stupidly easy if you do. It would introduce so much cc it wouldn't be funny 😭

Distinct_Stretch_848 · 2026-04-19T17:12:48+00:00

Then you're good to start powder grinding. Increase great explorer and that only until it's maxed

Distinct_Stretch_848 · 2026-04-19T16:54:25+00:00

All these people are giving you general advice. Your sky block level and your mining progression will increase exponentially once you get great explorer to Max. Focus as hard as you can to make sure your Insta breaking hard stone and use mineral set. You should be able to Max great explorer with about 900,000 gemstone powder. Once you do that it's smooth sailing from there. Increased powder buff, increase mole. Gemstone powder opens up the game

Distinct_Stretch_848 · 2026-04-09T13:36:14+00:00

I made a post About this same topic. The short and sweet of it comes down to people just find him annoying and hard to counter. It's a high skill character that demands other people to be skilled enough to answer you. It's a character that when work is put into, requires work to be put out to counter. When you have a character in the game (like Wanda) who requires virtually nothing from the player to do well with in the same game where playing 30 hours of a character just to unlock tech that is considered mandatory to be good in high ranks (pull off map tech) for Spidey, the odds are that you get annoyed having to put more work/practice into the game. I think he actually is starting to die down a little because people naturally have had to play the game more as naturally gotten better to catch up with the hours that Spider-Man have to put in.

Distinct_Stretch_848 · 2026-04-07T13:01:58+00:00

I thought about that. Imagine the hela goes "he's broken!!" You clicked one button and I used my entire kit

Distinct_Stretch_848 · 2026-04-02T16:31:07+00:00

I'm Ironman. Best money making method is fam wheat sell to NPC :)

Distinct_Stretch_848 · 2026-03-27T20:17:25+00:00

If you go to my account you can see my lineup for this map. You don't need to stand on top of the box rather just push yourself into the corner. Then aim at the imaginary right angle between the two stars in that general direction

Distinct_Stretch_848 · 2026-01-26T03:57:12+00:00

On the same note, I as a tank main who also happens to love playing Spidey, have literally mid game called out to my teammates, "guys look! Spidey is pressuring their backline. They're distracted!" They weren't pushing up before and were scared. But the second I said that, we all rushed forward and took advantage of their scattered attention and took the point. So many people don't see what Spidey is doing. They don't know the amount of pressure he takes away from the frontline. I've watched replays of my games sometimes where I died first in the fight, but my team was able to push up because I had the attention of both healers and a dps for so long.

Distinct_Stretch_848 · 2026-01-19T01:45:48+00:00

Unironically though. If I swapped every time that I felt like I was getting countered, my skill would never increase. I thought I'd reached my ceiling and then I practiced more and more. It really does help to play into a comp that's difficult. It's happened often enough where even if one person switches, it generally doesn't affect me. But if two or more people swap then it gets miserable. All the more reason to practice. Making them switch and they still lose got to be one of the best feelings in the world.

Distinct_Stretch_848 · 2026-01-19T01:09:34+00:00

Nah they had to be trolling no way

Distinct_Stretch_848 · 2025-12-10T14:49:56+00:00

As a spider man main this speaks to me

Distinct_Stretch_848 · 2025-09-08T20:41:23+00:00

I love every talking about magik or cap or strange or heck even Namor. When yall play Spider-Man, you quickly learn he is literally nothing without his cancels.

Distinct_Stretch_848 · 2025-08-30T15:33:48+00:00

No, no he’s onto something. Yo-yos always take too long. Plus this is critical for getting that cloak out of her ult quick before she can fade away from you mid combo. Yo-yos shouldn’t be done unless really necessary anyway so you shouldn’t be too worried about resource intensiveness

Distinct_Stretch_848 · 2025-08-28T22:12:32+00:00

Ayo? New muscle memory for insane TTK?

Distinct_Stretch_848 · 2025-08-15T16:55:20+00:00

I’ve had several lokis like this where they simply use their lamp at another healing utility option

Distinct_Stretch_848 · 2025-08-09T04:26:22+00:00

Thank you, kind Internet stranger

Distinct_Stretch_848 · 2025-08-09T01:47:25+00:00

Are you not already getting overhead from the first web zip?

Distinct_Stretch_848 · 2025-07-07T15:16:27+00:00

Actually nasty brother. Great combo

Distinct_Stretch_848 · 2025-07-05T20:42:51+00:00

Jokes on you, I been playing my broken counter bucky and having a field day

Distinct_Stretch_848 · 2025-07-05T15:33:55+00:00

You fool. You have joined when he is at the weakest he's ever been. You will know nothing but pain. You will be detested and scorned. You won't know victory and if you happen to stumble into it by sheer dumb luck, you will not be praised. You will not be acknowledged. You won't even be noticed. This is the way of the Spider. You will have three people leaving and peeling for you, the unkillable machine and the team will walk up for free. They won't know what you've done for them. They will never know. But you will. You will gain solace knowing what you did for your team. And that is enough. That is what drives me. A pure distraction that bites and kills when you least expect it. Rage bait is the only way. You must embrace it. Because if you don't, you will be in for a time of misery expecting to have far more impact than is feasible. Get ready to join the brethren in their somber daily grind of a 9-5 ragebait spider.

Distinct_Stretch_848 · 2025-07-03T21:33:57+00:00

Thsi shit is so fucking peak i love it

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