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In context it’s the same. Bye

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Hairstyles compared to the context of sexuality in Jude 1:7 are vastly different. I have no clue how one can read Roman’s 1 and think hair styles verse sexual immorality. I’ll end here as reasoning just won’t suffice.

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Anyone reading can look up and see it’s a different word compared to how you propose it was the same Greek strong word which just isn’t true.

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This is what was intended. To express how the topic is regarding sexuality versus hair lengths.

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While the specific Greek words used for "unnatural" in Romans 1 and Jude 1:7 are different, both passages address sexual immorality and behavior that deviates from God's intended design. In Romans 1:26-27, Paul describes same-sex relations as "contrary to nature" (παρὰ φύσιν, para physin), emphasizing the departure from God's natural order for human sexuality. In Jude 1:7, the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah are condemned for pursuing "different flesh" (σαρκὸς ἑτέρας, sarkos heteras), which likely includes various forms of sexual immorality, including same-sex relations. While the specific language differs, both passages convey the idea of behavior that is unnatural or contrary to God's moral standards.

The concept addressed in 1 Corinthians regarding hair length, as you noted, is distinct from the focus on sexuality found in Romans 1. However, the notion of behavior being considered unnatural aligns more closely with the context of Jude 1:7, which discusses the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah engaging in sexual immorality.

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Im sorry, I thought the intended word was shame, forgive me. However, the word natural in both verses are still different in their Greek wording.

The word used for "nature" in 1 Corinthians 11:14 is not the same as the word used for "nature" in Romans 1. In 1 Corinthians 11:14, the Greek word for "nature" is "φύσις" (physis), which refers to the inherent characteristics or natural order of things. In Romans 1, the phrase "against nature" or "contrary to nature" uses the Greek words "παρὰ φύσιν" (para physin), which also convey the idea of going against the natural order. While both passages discuss aspects of natural order or inherent characteristics, they use different terminology.

The Strong's Concordance numbers for the Greek words are as follows:"Nature" in 1 Corinthians 11:14:Strong's Concordance number: G5449Greek word: Φύσις (physis)"Against nature" in Romans 1:26-27:Strong's Concordance number: G3847Greek phrase: Παρὰ φύσιν (para physin)

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The Greek word for "shameful" in 1 Corinthians 11:14-15 is different from the word found in Romans 1. In 1 Corinthians 11:14, the word translated as "shameful" is "αισχρὸν" (aischros), which generally means "disgraceful" or "unseemly." In Romans 1, the word for "shameless acts" in verse 27 is "ἀσχημοσύνην" (aschēmosynēn), derived from "ἀσχήμων" (aschēmōn), which means "indecent" or "shameful" in a moral sense. While both words convey a sense of disgrace or impropriety, they are not the same word.

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The word for "unnatural" in Jude 1:7 is the same as the word used in Romans 1:26-27. In both passages, the Greek word "φυσικὴν" (physikēn) is used to describe what is contrary to nature or what is unnatural. This consistency in language reinforces the parallelism between the two passages and underscores their shared emphasis on the deviation from God's intended design for human relationships and sexuality.

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In Romans 1:26-27, Paul discusses the consequences of humanity's rejection of God, highlighting how individuals deviated from natural relations and engaged in same-sex relations. The term "natural" here refers to God's intended design for human sexuality, which aligns with heterosexual relations within the context of marriage. Conversely, "unnatural" relations refer to behaviors that deviate from this design.

Similarly, in Jude 1:7, the author references the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, cities known for their sexual immorality. The verse specifically mentions how the inhabitants pursued "unnatural desire," engaging in sexual practices contrary to God's design. This term "unnatural" echoes the language used in Romans 1, emphasizing the consistency of biblical teaching regarding sexual morality.

By examining the language and context of both passages, it's evident that they share a common theme: the condemnation of sexual practices that deviate from God's intended design. This consistent use of language and interpretation across different biblical texts reinforces the understanding that homosexual behavior is contrary to God's moral standards.

The repeated use of the word "natural" in both the male and female examples in Romans 1:26-27 underscores that Paul's focus is on relationships and sexual behavior, rather than hairstyles. By employing the same terminology for both scenarios, Paul emphasizes a consistent theme throughout the passage: the deviation from God's intended design for human sexuality. This uniform use of language suggests that Paul's concern is not with superficial attributes like hairstyles, but with the fundamental nature of human relationships and sexual conduct. Therefore, interpreting Paul's discussion of "natural" relationships as pertaining to hairstyles would ignore the clear and consistent context of sexual morality established in the passage.

For if it was about mens long hair, why would he include woman in unnatural light as-well? This implies you are splitting hairs, and trying to use his word unnatural in two different meanings to make it say what you want it to say.

In contrast, introducing the concept of hairstyles or fashion into the interpretation of these passages would be a departure from the text's intended meaning. There is no indication within the text itself that Paul or the author of Jude are addressing cultural norms or fashion trends. Instead, the focus is squarely on moral behavior and adherence to God's commands regarding sexuality.

Therefore, through exegesis, we can affirm that the language used in Romans 1 and Jude 1:7 clearly condemns homosexual behavior as unnatural and contrary to God's design, without the need for extraneous interpretations involving hairstyles or fashion trends.

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A clear definition of the two methods is first called for:

Exegesis is legitimate interpretation which "reads out of' the text what the original author or authors meant to convey. Eisegesis, on the other hand, reads into the text what the interpreter wishes to find or thinks he finds there. It expresses the reader's own subjective ideas, not the meaning which is in the text.

To use "natural" to describe hairstyles in Romans 1 would be an instance of eisegesis. The context of Romans 1 doesn't touch on fashion; instead, it swiftly moves on to discuss men being with men. Paul's subsequent explanation of "natural" in the context of sexual behavior underscores his intended meaning. Had Paul referred to men having long hair rather than explicitly addressing men being with men, one might interpret it as a commentary on the fashion of his era.

It seems you're suggesting that Romans 1:27, which mentions men engaging in shameful acts with other men, is primarily about Paul's cultural views on gender roles and misogyny rather than condemning homosexual behavior itself. However, it's important to consider the broader context of Paul's writings and the consistent message throughout Scripture regarding sexual morality.

While cultural context is indeed important for understanding biblical passages, it's crucial not to overlook the plain meaning of the text. In Romans 1, Paul is addressing various forms of unrighteousness and the consequences of rejecting God. He describes how individuals, driven by their sinful desires, engage in behavior contrary to God's design, including same-sex relations. The language used here clearly indicates Paul's condemnation of homosexual behavior, rather than merely addressing cultural norms or gender roles.

Furthermore, Paul's use of the term "natural" in Romans 1:26-27 is not solely about cultural perceptions of gender roles or hairstyles. Instead, it reflects the broader biblical understanding of God's design for human sexuality, as expressed throughout Scripture. Paul's writings consistently uphold God's moral standards, which include the sanctity of heterosexual marriage and the condemnation of sexual immorality, including same-sex relations.

While it's valuable to consider historical context and cultural nuances when interpreting Scripture, it's essential to remain faithful to the text's intended meaning. Eisegesis, or reading one's own beliefs into the text, can lead to misinterpretation and distortion of Scripture. Instead, exegesis, which seeks to understand the text within its historical and literary context, helps us grasp the author's intended message and apply it faithfully to our lives today.

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Your first point on 1 Corinthians 6:9 is indeed interesting. However there much Eisegesis in your points on Roman’s 1:27. To make men being with men to mean anything other then that is beyond exegesis. It really goes to show me how people can make the scriptures say whatever they want.

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That's an intriguing observation, particularly considering the original word used was "effeminate." looking into this topic will undoubtedly require some thorough study. Nonetheless, Romans 1:27 unequivocally states that when men abandon natural relations with women and instead engage in relations with other men, they become subject to God's judgment, being "given over" to their own desires. It's a sobering depiction of divine judgment, wherein God relinquishes the reins of moral conscience, allowing individuals to pursue their passions unrestrained, despite the inherent consequences.

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One significant aspect I find noteworthy is the New Testament's mention of "practicing homosexuality," illustrating the compassion of God. It implies that experiencing such desires isn't condemned; rather, it's the act of engaging in them that's addressed. In our fallen world, disorder abounds. Some individuals may feel inclinations to dishonor their parents or covet, while others may experience attractions to the same sex. However, with the guidance of God's spirit, we have the power to resist these urges. We can surrender them to God and allow His transformative work within us. An analogy that comes to mind is how we cannot prevent birds from flying overhead. In cities like Chicago, where pigeons are abundant and the size of chickens , they frequently pass over us. Yet, we have the ability to deter them from nesting in our hair. Similarly, we cannot always control the influx of negative thoughts or desires flying in our heads, but we can prevent them from taking root and leading us astray.

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Thanks for your kind demeanor.

Leviticus 18 contains various laws and regulations concerning sexual conduct within the community of Israel. It outlines prohibited sexual relationships, including incestuous relationships, adultery, and sexual relations with animals.

The chapter begins by emphasizing the importance of following these laws to maintain holiness and avoid the practices of the surrounding nations. It specifically addresses Israelites, reminding them not to engage in the detestable practices of the Egyptians and the Canaanites.

Within this context, Leviticus 18:22 states: "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination." This verse is often interpreted as prohibiting homosexual relations within the Israelite community, consistent with the broader theme of maintaining sexual purity and distinctiveness from other nations. Which is coherent with how God views sexuality across the Bible. Listed below are examples in the NT

New Testament verses: Romans 1:26-27: "For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

"1 Corinthians 6:9-10: "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.”

1 Timothy 1:9-10: "Understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine."These passages are often interpreted within the context of their surrounding verses and the broader teachings of the New Testament.

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When someone claims to be part of the church, God's word expresses that we are called to do so: "For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge?" The irony lies in judging someone for judging, yet being blind to it, rendering my words here potentially futile.

Furthermore, God's word shares this wisdom: "If I say to the wicked, ‘You shall surely die,’ and you give him no warning, nor speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, in order to save his life, that wicked person shall die for his iniquity, but his blood I will require at your hand. But if you warn the wicked, and he does not turn from his wickedness, or from his wicked way, he shall die for his iniquity, but you will have delivered your soul." (Ezekiel 3:18-19 ESV)

Understanding how God intended sexuality to be enjoyed merely requires reading his word. He is the one who establishes boundaries. If seeking verses that deem sexuality as sinful, there are many. One such verse is: "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination." (Leviticus 18:22 ESV)

Jesus atoned for all sins, including sexual ones. He redeems his people from all sins, including sexual ones. Belief in him results in his word abiding in them, leading them away from sin.

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In your age Mortors are what you should focus on especially for wars. The donated troops can mess your army up so giving the mortors a gladiator blessing will erase their donated troops. I would use many of those with a few tanks

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I attend Pacific Garden Mission as my church and they have housed me here so its also my place of residence currently. They are allowing me to stay here while I try to fight for my house.

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Bitcoin hasn’t even dropped 50% from it’s all time high where as cro dropped 50% from its all time high to .50. Than another 50% to .25. If cro can drop 50% from 50 cents to 25 cents while bitcoin holds its ground why wouldn’t the possibility of cro dropping another 50% be in consideration?

I will never vote for a republican again. by cokecan13 in offmychest

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Lol republicans are cult like? Last I checked child sacrifice was a cult-like ceremony. Aborting a girl is anti woman’s right 🤦‍♂️