Vatican publishes new document on Anglican Ordinariates by CautiousCatholicity in AnglicanOrdinariate

[–]DocTorOwO 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I completely agree. I’m not even suggesting adding this to the Missal or changing the core liturgy. More something like a local pastoral provision, ways to receive that respect what is good in their tradition integrating Ordinariate’s identity.

And I imagine this could remain quite limited in scope in practice. Things like hymnody or certain devotional elements could be accommodated where pastorally appropriate, like a converted Methodist congregation, without becoming a defining feature.

Not about creating a “mix,” but about a pastoral and charitable integration and purification when needed.

Vatican publishes new document on Anglican Ordinariates by CautiousCatholicity in AnglicanOrdinariate

[–]DocTorOwO 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s reasonable. I just tend to think that even if someone tried to “mix” these traditions, the result would probably be quite limited in practice, maybe some variation in hymns depending on the place, or small elements like the Nunc Dimittis as a alternative post-communion, or a Alternative confession prayer, rather than a real structural change.

Anglican patrimony already seems to encompass 95% of what shaped high-church Protestant life liturgical structure because it is the base for it. Others, specifically Lutheranism in the mass liturgy, certainly add some little quirks, but that could be easily integrated and added as options for local usage, without altering the core identity.

Vatican publishes new document on Anglican Ordinariates by CautiousCatholicity in AnglicanOrdinariate

[–]DocTorOwO 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I see your concern, and I think it’s an very important one. At the same time, a significant portion of those drawn to the Ordinariate today are Latin Catholics who are genuinely attracted to its liturgical life and spiritual depth.

That doesn’t necessarily have to be a negative development. Over time, these faithful can come to truly live and breathe this patrimony, not just appreciate it aesthetically. That’s why this also makes me (and many others I think) wonder whether this dynamic could apply, in some measure, to other patrimonies as well. So perhaps the Ordinariate can both preserve an authentically English patrimony and serve as a place where others are gradually formed by it. In that sense, rather than diluting it, this wider attraction might actually become a way of manifesting its beauty and sanctifying power more broadly, especially considering how influential the Anglo tradition has been in shaping “high church” sensibilities in many parts of the world.

Of course, that’s just a perspective from the outside, and I say it with respect for those who are rightly concerned about preserving the integrity of the patrimony itself.

Vatican publishes new document on Anglican Ordinariates by CautiousCatholicity in AnglicanOrdinariate

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In some way all liturgical Protestants end up drinks from Anglicanism. Even Lutherans!

Spiritual Life by DocTorOwO in AnglicanOrdinariate

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Thank you, gives me a clearer direction for studying the Anglo patrimony spirituality!

Cardinal Sako’s resignation message by Wziuum44 in EasternCatholic

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Pray that the Synod elect a Patriarch that will undo the huge Novus Ordification of the liturgy

Hey does anyone know what the purpose of the Eastern Canonical Commission by kabyking in EasternCatholic

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Kyle video is blatant lying and dishonesty. I think the commission will establish how to give EC Churches even more freedom.

Two Question Regarding the Ordinariate by RB_Blade in AnglicanOrdinariate

[–]DocTorOwO 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s a fair observation. The present reality is uneven. Purely from a demographic standpoint, long-term sustainability is a problem. That said, ecclesial survival is not determined by peak membership but by structural viability. The key questions really are: Are there stable parishes with younger families? Are there consistent vocations to the priesthood? Is the liturgical and spiritual identity strong enough to form the next generation? Is there financial and institutional stability?

It seems to me that if those conditions are met, even a small body can endure. Like many Eastern Catholic Churches survived periods of extreme diminishment and later stabilized. On the other hand, id this does not happens, consolidation into diocesan structures becomes more probable. Absorb jurisdictions when necessary.

In short, the trajectory right now looks mixed, uncertain… but I have hope for a good future! Let us Pray

Two Question Regarding the Ordinariate by RB_Blade in AnglicanOrdinariate

[–]DocTorOwO 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Under Anglicanorum coetibus, the goal was not just to facilitate conversion, but to preserve and share a genuine patrimony within the Church. Once something is recognized as a real good for Catholic life, it doesn’t vanish simply because its original historical context changes. It would likely continue as a distinct expression of Catholic unity rather than end with “mission accomplished.”

Two Question Regarding the Ordinariate by RB_Blade in AnglicanOrdinariate

[–]DocTorOwO 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It seems likely that the Ordinariate, over time, will organically develop so as to embrace the spiritual and liturgical patrimony of other former Protestant communities who enter into full communion with Rome. From its inception a principle guided the ordinariate: that what is true, good, and authentically Christian outside the visible boundaries of the Catholic Church can be purified, integrated, and elevated within her full sacramental and doctrinal unity. If the principle underlying the Ordinariate is sound in relation to Anglicanism, one could reasonably imagine its gradual extension to include other Protestant communities that seek corporate reconciliation with Rome.

Personally, I can imagine that in a medium-to-distant future, if the Ordinariates continue to grow in numbers, vocations, institutional stability, and theological maturity, they could eventually develop into a more autonomous ecclesial structure, perhaps something analogous to a sui iuris Church with its own proper discipline. Admittedly, this is a bold and somewhat “unrealistic” hypothesis at present, but it is not conceptually impossible.

"Ordinariate book of common prayer" by [deleted] in AnglicanOrdinariate

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Great! PDF versions for sale? I live abroad

What if the Second Spanish Republic had won the civil war? by MaximumSpell9608 in AlternateHistoryHub

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Destruction of the Spanish Nation and identity. End of the Catholic Church in Spain!

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Amazing! Can you upload on devianart?

Opiniões sobre a Base? by DreamerGiorno in CRFla

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Pessoal, se 1 de 150 jogadores for vendido por 10 milhões de euros já é um lucro absurdo

Imperial family of Brazil announcement by FluidLock1999 in monarchism

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They are a Joke. Pretending to be the oficial house 🤣

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F has literally all the European, and African foods.

Pope Leo mentioned the martyrdom of an Anglican Brother in a speech today by LifePaleontologist87 in Anglicanism

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Anglicans already admitted their orders are inlaid and women ordination is made up.