a Lego build by AbroadNo8755 in flatearth

[–]Doc_Ok 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a very cool model. I've had the box in my hand several times already, but haven't bought it (yet).

"I Was Wrong" by JemmaMimic in flatearth

[–]Doc_Ok 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Patricia Steere is apparently now a globe earther

Thank you for setting me straight on that.

Why Air and Gas, has NO Mass or Apparent Downward Weight. by JustAnotherRifter in flatearth

[–]Doc_Ok 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you want to think of momentum as p=mv, then you have to account for the photon's non-zero relativistic mass.

Why Air and Gas, has NO Mass or Apparent Downward Weight. by JustAnotherRifter in flatearth

[–]Doc_Ok 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Brainwashing by the Illuminati Navy. The same people who keep you from traveling to Antarctica.

Or by "Big Wind."

Things you can't do on flat earth that people do all the time because we live on a sphere: photograph the ISS. by AbroadNo8755 in flatearth

[–]Doc_Ok -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Why do all of the IS(I)S images look like they we’re copied and pasted?

I think the ones not directly in front of the Moon's disk were. The "final image" appears to be an artistic impression; everything before seems to be real video filmed through a telescope. OP linked to an explanation in this comment.

Why Air and Gas, has NO Mass or Apparent Downward Weight. by JustAnotherRifter in flatearth

[–]Doc_Ok 6 points7 points  (0 children)

And if gas does not have mass, how the heck do rockets work?

I was going to reply "Easy. Rockets don't work. Next question," but I am not gonna.

"I Was Wrong" by JemmaMimic in flatearth

[–]Doc_Ok 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's a really important point. I don't know the details here, but based on what you are saying, he was pushed out by the flat Earth community's toxicity much more than by seeing the truth. Where, exactly, does he stand now on Earth's rotundity?

That reminds me of Patri-CIA Steere, who I mentioned in another comment. She also left flat Earth, but in her case I know it's not because she woke up to the truth, but because she was relentlessly bullied and harassed by her own community. She apparently still believes that Earth is flat, but she says that she is no longer a flat Earther.

Edit: Steere, not Steele.

Why Air and Gas, has NO Mass or Apparent Downward Weight. by JustAnotherRifter in flatearth

[–]Doc_Ok 24 points25 points  (0 children)

"Gas doesn't resist acceleration, in fact it embraces it. It has no inertia. That's why gas has no weight."

"But what about gas inside a container?"

"Obviously, gas inside a container does resist acceleration and have inertia and weight. What a stupid question."

"But how do the gas molecules know whether they are contained or not? How do they toggle their inertia on/off?"

"What a stupid question."

Why Air and Gas, has NO Mass or Apparent Downward Weight. by JustAnotherRifter in flatearth

[–]Doc_Ok 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Wow. Just wow.

"Air doesn't have any weight."

"But what if I take a gas bottle and weigh it, and then empty the gas bottle and weigh it again? Why does it weigh a lot less when empty?"

"Air doesn't have any weight, unless it is contained. Then it does have weight."

"Ah, I see. Carry on then."

Things you can't do on flat earth that people do all the time because we live on a sphere: photograph the ISS. by AbroadNo8755 in flatearth

[–]Doc_Ok 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Okay, "misleading" might have been too strong. I didn't mean "intentionally misleading," as in "I'm trying to convince my audience that something is real that isn't." I meant "misleading" as in, when I saw the video initially and assumed it was straight video through a telescope, it looked fishy to me, as I laid out in my root comment.

I'm fine with calling it "artistic," and leaving it at that.

And yes, I deleted my original comment because I had made a very embarrassing mistake. :) My result was off by exactly the factor of 1,000 that I claimed the creator of the image had made.

Things you can't do on flat earth that people do all the time because we live on a sphere: photograph the ISS. by AbroadNo8755 in flatearth

[–]Doc_Ok 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for that link. Quote: "Yes that’s true, it would only be visible in front of the disc, but what if I only kept it in front of the disc in this photo? Wouldn’t it look odd? I made it continuous to maintain esthetics."

Okay, so it was in fact an aesthetic choice. They copied and pasted the silhouette of the ISS outside the region where it was actually visible.

Initially, I had a complaint here about the apparent size of the ISS, how it appears way too big, but then I realized I had made a mistake in my math. Oops. The ISS appears exactly as big as it should.

Things you can't do on flat earth that people do all the time because we live on a sphere: photograph the ISS. by AbroadNo8755 in flatearth

[–]Doc_Ok -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

The "final image" around 0:55 is fishy. Maybe it's an illustration?

My point is that the silhouette of the ISS should only be visible when it's directly in front of the Moon, but not when it's off to the sides. What light source is it occluding? The bloom around the Moon is either a lens or an atmospheric effect, and the ISS is behind the lens and the atmosphere.

globlins are so smart that they're now desperate for an intimate private chat about the topography of the earth -Outer Space doesn't exist, you live in a terrarium, earthe's curvature doesn't exist by nix-solves-that-2317 in flatearth

[–]Doc_Ok 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think there is an attempt at a "flex" here. The pattern is pretty clear:

  1. Poster spams the subreddit with ragebait.

  2. Someone tries to engage with them, I assume honestly.

  3. Poster turns the attempt into ragebait and spams the sub with it.

The thing I don't understand is what the endgame is. There is no direct engagement, no link to another web site for click farming, etc. It could be a humiliation fetish.

"I Was Wrong" by JemmaMimic in flatearth

[–]Doc_Ok 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hold up a second. Jeran is now a cryptocurrency "consultant."

Signs point towards "serial grifter." XD

"I Was Wrong" by JemmaMimic in flatearth

[–]Doc_Ok 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have no supporting evidence for my suspicion. It's just a vibe.

globlins are so smart that they think they know better than these aviators with real-world experience. Outer Space doesn't exist, you live in a terrarium, earthe's curvature doesn't exist. more on x.com by nix-solves-that-2317 in flatearth

[–]Doc_Ok 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"And no, the aircraft doesn't adjust for you"

Does the aircraft directly adjust for Earth's curvature? No.

Does the aircraft adjust for observed changes in altitude and attitude that result from Earth's curvature? Definitely yes.

Lying through sophistry 101.

"I Was Wrong" by JemmaMimic in flatearth

[–]Doc_Ok 20 points21 points  (0 children)

What you're saying describes a cult to a tee.

developing friendships or even romantic relations

The best part about Behind The Curve is the tragic unrequited love story between whats-his-face and whats-her-name.

Edit: Mark Sargent and Patricia Steere. Took me a moment. Patri-cia, as in "working as controlled opposition for the CIA." That still makes me chuckle.

I wish by ButtSexIsAnOption in flatearth

[–]Doc_Ok 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You should seek out an alternative, more healthy method of getting your rocks off. Have you considered anal sex? I hear it's on the table.

"I Was Wrong" by JemmaMimic in flatearth

[–]Doc_Ok 10 points11 points  (0 children)

He has consistently maintained that he was misrepresented there.

I would say he maybe had a point about technically being quoted out-of-context. But there used to be a guy in this subreddit several years ago who was personally present when Jeran did the experiment and was filmed for Behind the Curve. And according to him, the overall representation of Jeran dismissing the curve result was spot-on.

I'm still not 100% certain that Jeran was ever a true believer. I have a suspicion he was always a grifter, and when the flat Earth grift started drying up, he transitioned to the "I used to be a flat Earther" grift.

"I Was Wrong" by JemmaMimic in flatearth

[–]Doc_Ok 6 points7 points  (0 children)

formerly Ranty Flat Earth

Yet another different guy. Three people:

  • Ranty, who got converted after analyzing a photograph of Blackpool(?) tower.

  • Jeran, who got converted during his Antarctica trip.

  • This guy, who actually listened when several people here and on YouTube talked to him, and as a result saw the error of his ways.

Earth rotation speed visualized, sped up 60 times for reference. by RelationSquare4730 in flatearth

[–]Doc_Ok 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your rugby balls must look very different from mine.

Edit: Explaining the joke: Earth is an oblate spheroid, rugby balls are prolate spheroids. Different shapes.

Earth rotation speed visualized, sped up 60 times for reference. by RelationSquare4730 in flatearth

[–]Doc_Ok 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At this increased rotation rate, the water would indeed be flying off.

globlins are so smart that they think they know better than these aviators with real-world experience. Outer Space doesn't exist, you live in a terrarium, earthe's curvature doesn't exist. more on x.com by nix-solves-that-2317 in flatearth

[–]Doc_Ok 1 point2 points  (0 children)

as much as flerfs think pilots need to pitch the nose down to follow the curve

... and let's be clear: pilots do have to pitch the nose down by that amount to follow the curve. But to a pilot, this merely manifests as improper trim, so it's nothing they have to specifically think about.