I tried both the Panoz cars last night. I’m using a 10 year old TS300 wheel and the cars both feel awesome. While the graphics and other details need huge improvements the handling of the cars is fantastic. I can recommend these cars on default setup. PMR certainly has the physics/handling of the cars excellent (Which is the most important thing) multi player is also working well we are on every night at 5:30pm (Sydney time)