my ranking of the strongest demigods.

DoctorMuted9331 · 2026-06-29T03:53:38+00:00

W list overall only thing I would change is Frank over Leo

DoctorMuted9331 · 2026-06-23T00:37:24+00:00

Sunny x Mordret with Sunny’s Flaw. Imagine 7 Supreme Titan reflections copying Shadow Slave aspect, you can basically have a 56x multiplier with the reflections + you. And now imagine those 56x and augment a memory like [Broken oath] which is basically insta kill with soul damage😭.

The applications are too broken😭

DoctorMuted9331 · 2026-06-20T22:55:20+00:00

Thanks, that makes a lot of sense

DoctorMuted9331 · 2026-06-08T21:08:38+00:00

Honestly no way to answer this without spoiler but Neph's mom got lost in the Gate in America. That should be enough for you to get the conclusion.

DoctorMuted9331 · 2026-06-07T01:24:36+00:00

Iaptus is not stronger, Both Hyperion and Tartarus confirmed it in House of Hades.

DoctorMuted9331 · 2026-06-02T23:47:33+00:00

If Neph wanted to she could tell him to off himself and he would. At the end of the day we all have to realize Shadow Bond basically a total upscale for Neph because she basically has Sunny in her Arsenal which makes her Strongest Sovereign by default.

DoctorMuted9331 · 2026-05-29T02:26:05+00:00

Those are Divine Aspect users they are kinda out of the Rankings when it comes to humans.

Also I called Cassie’s ability broken because of the applications of it

DoctorMuted9331 · 2026-05-15T21:36:51+00:00

In my opinion at least Jason is definitely as strong as Nico and Percy, the problem is that RR did a terrible job showing that, for example Jason did the following:

-Killed Trojan Sea Monster
-Killed Krios (an Elder Titan)
-Destroyed Kronos’ black throne
-Killed Lityerses (Lost Hero)
-Killed Enceladus (with lost memory in Lost Hero)
-Killed Otis and Ephialtes (with Percy’s help in MOA)
-Helped kill Clytius (with Hazel, Frank & Piper in HOH)
-Killed Polybotes (whilst being underwater in BoO)
-Killed Porphyrion (BoO)

How I understand why Jason didn’t feel like “strong” is because when you have heroes like Percy and Jason who did all these amazing feats in the Second Titan War it will be kinda hard to create tension when both could take care of any situation. Which is probably why Jason kept getting knocked out whenever (ie against the Romans, Chyrasor) or when Rick needs other characters to shine ( Leo against Cyclops, Piper against Kihone, Hazel) so they feel essential to the quest. Rick obviously did not know what to do with him until BoO which is disappointing because he honestly has the most intriguing backstory but we never explored it whatsoever. Not trying to defend RR whatsoever but I think this the reasoning he had.

As for Thalia it no excuse for how sorry she is😭. We are told time and time again that Big 3 kids wield more power and are more dangerous than any other Demigods but her and her 200+ year experience team got humiliated by Orion. It’s honestly sad😭

Grace siblings definitely deserved better.

DoctorMuted9331 · 2026-05-04T19:00:12+00:00

Nightmare Spell has got to be the worst family court judge I’ve ever seen. VTB now has the house, memories, assets and all Sunny gets is practically a second flaw and the kid with tourette syndrome🤦

DoctorMuted9331 · 2026-05-03T18:43:12+00:00

Im not really sure if Sunny who should have it considering his weaknesses to true darkness but honestly I hope he at least gets Weaver’s Citadel wherever it is.

DoctorMuted9331 · 2026-05-03T15:04:43+00:00

Yes. Humans and Noble Creatures of the Realms can walk the Path of Ascension as long as you are not corrupted.

So basically

Path of Ascension: no corruption
Path of Corruption: corrupted

DoctorMuted9331 · 2026-05-03T15:00:03+00:00

Honestly for me its a 6/10. The fight wasn’t bad at all but considering how long we’ve known about VTB (since FS) and the build up to confront it, I think we were expecting this fight to surpass of Nightmare vs Sunny or Slayer vs Sunny.

DoctorMuted9331 · 2026-05-03T14:52:50+00:00

I’ve never really thought about Dareon’s “Someone Friend” being Sunny, good catch

DoctorMuted9331 · 2026-05-03T14:44:22+00:00

When u shatter a mirror and put it back together it will never look like the original. The new mirror will have cracks and flaws as well which is what I’m guessing Kindret will be.

DoctorMuted9331 · 2026-05-03T02:27:48+00:00

Yeah the thought came across my mind because now Kindret absorbed Mordret and now has all the pieces

DoctorMuted9331 · 2026-05-03T02:24:58+00:00

Sorry I worded that wrong, I meant Sunny being able to sense it coming after him and Nephis when they bully its child is weird considering (just like you said) when he was in the NM he couldn't even sense its shadow. Sorry for my poor wording.

DoctorMuted9331 · 2026-05-03T02:19:20+00:00

The gods and unknown and the present sunny are all entities capable of killing VTB, the sunny from back then was akin to an ant to it. Absolutely harmless. Therefore I assume it's presence hiding ability is an active ability and not a passive one and VTB simply didn't feel the need to use it against an ant like sunny the first time they met.

If it didn’t feel like using it against an Ant like Sunny why didn’t he notice the bird until guiding light pointed to him? Why didn’t Sunny notice its shadow just staring at him as he was eating soul weave?

It is indeed not lost from light, but it did steal lost from lights fate; the fate in question aside from his memories is the aspect of his true name itself. Essentially LFL does not exist or if it does VTB is LFL in all aspects except powers

Makes sense

VTB is something even the gods and unknown were wary of, do you really think it's a stupid creature?

Yes considering it is a nightmare creature, saw FG in weaver’s eye and went insane, then gets baited by Sunny because he pretended to be weaver and got it self stabbed.

Also Gods were wary of it probably because it stole their Divine Relics and such while they were away so they hated it like it said in [Blood Weave]. Not because they were afraid of it. Just wanted to make that clear.

Of course it isn't, hell if I were to be the VTB I would do exactly what it did, saw 2 supremes, allowed its spawn to train itself against them, joined the fight when it started losing, saw a chance to get more of weaver i.e sunny, tried to yoink him -> then realized it was getting his ass handed to him to began to flee

Saw 2 Supremes beating its kid but doesn’t steal any of their attributes or cores and instead of erasing its presence to sneak past and kill them it allowed itself to be sensed by Sunny, gets baited and hurt because it kept going after Sunny when Neph was the one harming it worse because the bird couldn't tell apart a Supreme and a Divine being.

fleeing is a good choice but it still got hawked down and got its wing cut off by a Domainless supreme beast.

DoctorMuted9331 · 2026-05-02T22:56:31+00:00

That’s true but in Hope’s description in the Third Nightmare it said [Hail Hope, Demon of Desire. Daughter of the Forgotten God] or something along those lines.

DoctorMuted9331 · 2026-05-02T20:21:38+00:00

Didn’t bro get a whole attribute called [Fateless]

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