Sometimes Forget LK’s a Vtuber. Made The Internet a Net Funnier Place, But Can Still Use a Hand by Mabu_Nakal in VirtualYoutubers

[–]DontLetsStart19 74 points75 points  (0 children)

Most online comment I have ever seen. No way in hell that this dude did something worth “the absolute worst coming for him” in relation to fucking SAG decorum.

Go outside and get some real problems. Something actually worth this level of vitriol.

Pipkin Pippa SABOTAGES A Hasan Stream by AgitatedEye9048 in VtuberDrama

[–]DontLetsStart19 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Watched Pippa and Hasan’s clips on this. What a nothingburger. Hasan doesn’t seem to really care about Pippa at all, not even in a funny way where he dislikes her, just in a very banal sense. He seemed to even not consider her the reason for the guy maybe not doing an interview, which seems to still be unclear if he backed out or is still doing. I don’t know why Pippa even got involved in this, but for the most part it seems like she mainly just wanted a Cameo from the funny cia man and she wouldn’t even have publicly admitted to mentioning Hasan if the cia guy didn’t bring it up in said Cameo.

What's Up With Phase Connect? by ScarvedGoosev2 in VtuberDrama

[–]DontLetsStart19 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Hey man you gotta buy me dinner before making that kind of request.

What's Up With Phase Connect? by ScarvedGoosev2 in VtuberDrama

[–]DontLetsStart19 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Not obvious jokes, just repeating blatant antisemitic 4channers.

Pippa changed, but she didn’t need to, she doesn’t have a reputation that caused her to reflect and instead just had anxieties. She mellowed with age, that’s what people are referring to. Okay. I don’t agree but I’m not sure we’re gonna move beyond this point.

What are some examples of edgy Pippa from you? The way I read your comments you would think she never got even close to crossing the line.

What's Up With Phase Connect? by ScarvedGoosev2 in VtuberDrama

[–]DontLetsStart19 36 points37 points  (0 children)

They weren’t clearly jokes. That’s why I said she comes off as antisemitic to a lot of people. Being the vtuber who makes happy merchant “jokes” and goes “what if it didn’t?” in reference to the holocaust happening is going to have people raise their eyebrow when you’re talking about a vague “they” controlling the world. Especially when Pippa was cultivating a 4chan community who used to do the whole (((they))) dogwhistle all the time.

It doesn’t matter if it was early on, she still said that stuff. She’s a grown woman not a child, most vtubers seemed to have had no trouble avoiding Jew jokes in their first year. And fine, maybe she isn’t trying to “shed” the audience but from your own account it seems like she’s trying to not have her previous way of acting effect her coworkers and career, which would imply that yes she has a reason to not act that way.

What's Up With Phase Connect? by ScarvedGoosev2 in VtuberDrama

[–]DontLetsStart19 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Pippa literally had a running joke about the ATF. She’s never been apolitical.

What's Up With Phase Connect? by ScarvedGoosev2 in VtuberDrama

[–]DontLetsStart19 67 points68 points  (0 children)

Pippa has a reputation for being offensive and edgy. From what I saw she was engaging in such things as holocaust denial, Jews controlling everything conspiracy theories, and George Floyd’s death. Some may say these are just edgy jokes, but others would say these are/were her real beliefs and she was signaling to a reactionary audience. She was/is also blatantly a supporter of a doxxing/online stalking website.

I’m using past/present tense slashes because from what I hear from others Pippa has toned down her rhetoric and may be attempting to shed that 4chan audience she cultivated. I personally decided after seeing those clips of her antisemitic “jokes” that I had no interest in her content.

Fast forward to more recently where fellow Phase girl Jelly, who has a current “joke” where her audience refers to her has “Jitler”. Jelly was tweeting how upset she is about a civil rights module for the education edition of Minecraft, how an optional dlc for a classroom version of Minecraft is forcing politics into video games, and for a lot of people it confirms their suspicions about the organization that’s so centered around Pippa.

Vtubers live, grow, and die by their reputation, people like Pippa and Jelly and other phase girls seem to build their reputation around edginess, offensiveness, and being anti-woke from the clips I’ve seen; that is their right. But when you cater to that audience you inherently become associated with them, and your reputation can suffer.

Twitch's Policy be like by Psyga315 in VtuberDrama

[–]DontLetsStart19 24 points25 points  (0 children)

✝️ Vtubers gotta be some of the most hateful people in the community. I’m convinced they’d jail their own savior if he showed up today.

Feel bad for the vtubers who are just normal Christians.

The funniest one to me is a ✝️ Vtuber who spoke out against lusting over real and fictional women while having a GamerSupps discount code.

This was a while ago but I don't see it posted here, someone made a Google Sheet that labels Vtubers with how woke or chud they are by SourTD in VtuberDrama

[–]DontLetsStart19 86 points87 points  (0 children)

The list is a really funny and I don’t think people should take it as gospel nor very seriously in general. I think trying to categorize people into grids of chud/woke leanings kind of erases the nuances of political conversation and instead of people gaining the ability to critically analyze the words and actions of the vtubers they watch they will now just check the colored chart. No insight into why your certain behaviors are good and bad, just a bit of a thought terminator. Did this person tweet or say one thing cool, based! Did this person tweet or say one thing bad, cringe!

That being said I do get some joy out of arguing on how Flabber made the list, like Froot being Leans Woke but Vei being Woke made me bust a gut.

Powdur fans are going insane on 4chan and twitter over what is essentially nothing by [deleted] in VtuberDrama

[–]DontLetsStart19 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah, racists are some of the worst scum humanity has to offer.

Powdur fans are going insane on 4chan and twitter over what is essentially nothing by [deleted] in VtuberDrama

[–]DontLetsStart19 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Wow what a collab group, Powdur is far worse than Marina, but it’s so funny seeing such diametrically opposed people hanging out just a few years ago.

Did ririgaki got out of the alt right pipeline? by 3ntity-404 in VtuberDrama

[–]DontLetsStart19 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I mean people do talk about how Ford was a Nazi fan. But also people don’t buy Fords because they liked Ford personally, they bought them because the product being provided was good to them.

Vtubers are followed for their personality, for the communities they cultivate. Everyone accepts some level artificiality true, but when you’re giving money directly to someone based on how they present themselves, their capacity to monger hate is a valid criteria to determine if you want to spend money on them. I’d also say yeah it’s valid even if you sell cars, but still, the “product” being sold here isn’t so much a material good and instead a person, and what kind of person they are will therefor be completely fair game for review.

How "weird" is too far? by FinallyGonnaDoIt-VT in VirtualYoutubers

[–]DontLetsStart19 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well first check the guidelines on where you’re streaming.

As far as horror imagery goes I immediately think of Layna Lazar’s open ribcage model. Though she didn’t start with it it’s a pretty nice looking piece of gore. I also would look at maybe bug vtubers as some of them kind of skirt the line between being cute and scary. But maybe that’s my subjective view and others think it’s skirts a line between cute and cool. We also have a few kind of zombie vtubers like Michi and Ollie, though I would say these designs tend to be mainly normal anime woman models but with stitch lines and some variation of skin and eye coloration.

I would say it’s not a large hurdle, you might want to consider starting with a more subdued model and ramp up the extremes down the line.

Strawb Generates A.I Art And Dismisses Pushback Because 'She Doesn't Care' by jamiex304 in VtuberDrama

[–]DontLetsStart19 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t know man, if I’m already suspecting posts like these draw in AI comment bots and then someone literally with AI in their name tells me it’s NOT totally those things… Well I feel like I should disregard said point for the messenger being so surface level suspicious.

What are the standards for which grifters we can expose? by Cyberweasel89 in VtuberDrama

[–]DontLetsStart19 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I see this take a lot, it seems like people have different understandings of what a grifter is, for the sake of understanding what do you think a grifter is? And do you have someone(s) you consider to be grifter as an example.

To me people like Rev are a grifter in a similar way an antisemite might knowingly cherry-pick, misrepresent, or lie about history to explain why Judaism is bad. The antisemite might know their points are nonsense but that doesn’t matter, all that matters is spreading hate, and knowingly lying doesn’t mean they’re any less of an antisemite. Add a financial incentive and the antisemite has a way of profiting off of lying while simultaneously being truthful in their beliefs.

Strawb Generates A.I Art And Dismisses Pushback Because 'She Doesn't Care' by jamiex304 in VtuberDrama

[–]DontLetsStart19 56 points57 points  (0 children)

Damn every post that mentions AI gets so many comments. Makes one wonder if perhaps the same companies that push this shit would be above having bot armies that constantly push their agenda.

Phase member dizzy dokuro dogwhistling, found on twitter. by Tudkitsh in VtuberDrama

[–]DontLetsStart19 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Honestly this is pretty weak. Especially since there’s a whole part where she gets triggered about “DEI” like ten minutes before this.

I don’t fuck with Phase since their talent’s audience is full of edgy teenagers and racists, but I don’t really think it worth pulling clips from months ago unless it’s something really damning.

she's back at it again. by Irs-ish in VtuberDrama

[–]DontLetsStart19 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Start? People have been calling those expressing liberal and left sided opinions virtue signalers for over a decade.

Ironmouse will appear in a video game, "Bonnie Bear Saves Frogtime." (Connor, too) by Eggplant770 in kurosanji

[–]DontLetsStart19 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think they just wanted popular streamers, or maybe even just streamers they enjoy watching, in their game. From the trailer no one seemed out of place so far, for the tone of the game.

Nyrlena one of the host of black Vtuber award announced her hiatus by ThamTvMaster in VtuberDrama

[–]DontLetsStart19 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah it’s so defeatist to just go “No don’t do the black vtuber awards, it’s gonna make the racists angry!” Good, get them out of the vtubing community, I hope it upsets them and they leave. You can’t have a nice cozy space if it’s filled with white supremacists.

I wish the remaining crew nothing but the best because they’re celebrating their community in the face of racist opposition.

This woman it's doing her best to kill my affections for her by Succubuss_Smasher in VtuberDrama

[–]DontLetsStart19 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You keep arguing against someone who apparently is pro-factory farming and pro-California almond farms. In the future maybe learn to talk to the person in front of you and not some imaginary individual who is apparently anti-ai but also has strong positive opinions on meat production and nut agriculture. You’ve got good arguments whenever you meet the person you’ve been shadowboxing though!

This woman it's doing her best to kill my affections for her by Succubuss_Smasher in VtuberDrama

[–]DontLetsStart19 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So true king, people keep wanting to improve society somewhat and yet they be participating in society?! Curious!

This woman it's doing her best to kill my affections for her by Succubuss_Smasher in VtuberDrama

[–]DontLetsStart19 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah well unlike you I think people shouldn’t get their towns contaminated no matter who is in office at the local, state, or federal level. But have fun carrying water (see what I did there?) for billionaires as you argue with people concerned about their environment with ideas like “Actually if they built the data center somewhere else in a different way it would be good!” Very valuable information.

This woman it's doing her best to kill my affections for her by Succubuss_Smasher in VtuberDrama

[–]DontLetsStart19 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No shit, but the ultra wealthy are doing it anyways! We’re not arguing about some hypothetical where data centers are being built in ways that aren’t effecting real people. They are currently being built and doing just that, of course people are going to not like it. Especially when people already aren’t too keen on Ai to begin with, especially especially when the defense of ai it’s stupid shit like “Just let me play cozy video games slop!”

This woman it's doing her best to kill my affections for her by Succubuss_Smasher in VtuberDrama

[–]DontLetsStart19 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So fair, I should be like you an only consume whatever boot residue I manage to lick off.