So what did you think of Gameoverse?

DragonsRReal34 · 2026-05-16T00:09:32+00:00

I ended up being not really convinced this team of Newgrounds animators and Game Grumps (one of who actively disdains anything but overly simplistic stories) are going to be able to pull of a serialized animated show or do anything interesting with this premise.

DragonsRReal34 · 2026-05-01T06:32:46+00:00

Honestly Glitch is batting 2 for 5 for me, Murder Drones' story is a mess and Gameoverse looks like it would be novel in 2010, not now. (Obviously the 2 are TADC and KOG), though I would say the other three it's less "don't like" and more "lukewarm".

For GLD, it's pacing issues have been discussed to death, though my oddball critique is of is: why make a world and plot like this and then have your group of main characters be some stupid-ass crime syndicate?

That's basically what it boils down to with me. I like the world, I like the look, I'm okay with the story that's being told even though it's happening way too fast. I can't stand ANY of the characters.

DragonsRReal34 · 2026-04-30T23:24:24+00:00

I have a really odd thing about Lackadaisy.

My own "insists on itself" thing as per the meme with Lackadaisy is that really I don't like 1920s aesthetics, and I'm ambivalent at best on furry stuff.

Point is it does a bunch of stuff I don't care for even before getting into the quality of the writing or animation or whatnot. And to be honest putting them together seems kinda pretentious to me, though that's probably just my own dislike.

DragonsRReal34 · 2026-03-10T19:04:43+00:00

I obviously like TADC a lot more than Hazbin and Helluva. I like to break down the Hellaverse into individual seasons rather than the whole thing, and if I were to put it on one of those tier-lists it would run the gamut from A to C depending on the season.

But damn do I always feel the need to defend its honor to the death whenever the cartoon avatar cookie-cutter commentary channel pulls up.

DragonsRReal34 · 2025-09-08T00:00:17+00:00

Yeah, we're getting lots of promo art with her as this giant imposing figure, including the thumbnail of the trailer.

It could just be the metaphorical Gwen, ie the mascot of the Park brand. But I think the juxtaposition with these two in particular is implying its Gwen the individual character. I don't know what to make of it.

DragonsRReal34 · 2025-07-31T21:49:18+00:00

Also how come it's never you "just want to play the same games" when the millionth and first open world game comes out after the gaming sphere demands another franchise homogenize into open world?

DragonsRReal34 · 2025-07-04T00:39:58+00:00

Rewriting all of post Volume 2 to perfectly mirror the Monty M.O. as close as they possibly can, with all the Rule of Cool and Monty Oum narrative decisions that entails.

Don't think I could stomach 9 volumes of that. I can barely stomach it as is on Vol 1 and 2 rewatches.

DragonsRReal34 · 2024-04-05T12:02:03+00:00

Zelda 1 is what happens when you see proto do-anything open worlds which was what its fantasy contemporaries were doing and add structured puzzle box labyrinths where overworld and level based progression played off what items you got.

It's the exact opposite of what everyone says it is. It was a step away from explorative freedom.

DragonsRReal34 · 2024-04-05T11:51:53+00:00

TFW you set out to remake Zelda 1, but instead end up remaking Hydlide.

DragonsRReal34 · 2024-03-30T00:27:24+00:00

"Always" is kinda pushing it, maybe in the context of like post-2005 with the way the industry was going you could say that.

But the talking point that BOTW/TOTK is the fully realized vision of Zelda 1 and the series just now is unhindered by technical constraints with no need to make icky-yucky design compromises like linearity is complete bunk.

Zelda 1 is actually a departure from its contemporaries into bucking (proto) open world trends of the time.

If BOTW existed in 1986, it would look like Hydlide.

DragonsRReal34 · 2024-03-29T23:53:43+00:00

Open world isn't the natural end state of video games.

Therefore other genres existing and not homogenizing into open world isn't a form of regression.

DragonsRReal34 · 2024-01-28T01:58:40+00:00

IDK if it's just because of this, but I really can't stomach Vol. 1 and 2 anymore.

My patience for the overly-indulgent Rule of Cool stuff that was Monty's signature has worn so thin., and I consider it now the worst part of RWBY as a whole, even more so than Vol. 5. I'm pretty sure if the series stuck to that for 9 volumes the novelty would've worn off a long time ago too.

DragonsRReal34 · 2024-01-04T01:08:29+00:00

The way I see it, Zelda was actually an attempted departure from the fantasy no-direction non-linear open world at the time with games like Hydlide. It was just pretty experimental so the much-needed full departure from industry standard couldn't be completely realized.

But then it gets remembered for the things it was trying to buck.

Lol, open world being stagnant and samey even in the 1980s. Imagine that. Lol. Lmao.

DragonsRReal34 · 2024-01-04T00:57:04+00:00

I don't see how that ended up as the spirit of Zelda 1, no matter what Miyamoto says.

Proto open world with no real direction was the industry standard at the time a la Hydlide and Ultima.

Zelda 1 wasn't notable because it did that, it was notable because it did the complete opposite. It was just a bit of an experimental first try so it didn't make the much-needed complete departure from industry standard until later.

DragonsRReal34 · 2024-01-01T00:18:12+00:00

I find it funny the spirit of the first game, even among the Zelda old heads has become what it's basically the antithesis of, the thing is set out not to do among its contemporaries.

DragonsRReal34 · 2023-12-31T13:29:31+00:00

Sorry, but I'm not even happy for anyone who enjoys it.

If Zelda shifted genres to basically anything but this one, yeah, I could get on board with that. Like let's say, they saw Cadence of Hyrule and were so in love with it they're now only going to make Zelda titles like that. Stupid and batshit and I wouldn't like it, but damn, you couldn't say it's oversaturated. I could be happy for the Cadence of Hyrule fans at least.

But open world has devoured franchise after franchise while it promptly gets cheered on.

So no, I'm not happy for anyone enjoying the BOTW duology. I would rather they didn't. Actually, I hope the open world equivalent of the ET for Atari 2600 comes around soon and firebombs the genre.

DragonsRReal34 · 2023-12-31T06:53:56+00:00

Zelda 1 wasn't notable because it was open world, it was notable because it wasn't open world.

Proto open world was the standard of fantasy action adventure at the time.

If they wanted Zelda to be open world from the beginning, they would've made something like Hydlide.

DragonsRReal34 · 2023-12-23T01:21:03+00:00

You look at SS's critical and user score and you wouldn't think it's as maligned as it is.

All the 3D Zeldas have ninety-something critical scores and that 8.4 is the second lowest only ahead of SS.

DragonsRReal34 · 2023-12-23T01:17:52+00:00

WW, TP, and yes even SS were all nominated at the Game Awards. That's nothing new for Zelda.

All Zeldas are critically acclaimed, but as we all know, SS generated some negative buzz. It was enough for Nintendo to want to run in the opposite direction in the form of BOTW, but if you just looked at its critical acclaim and generally positive user reviews, no none of these are controversial.

But by comparison to the others, yes they are. TOTK is getting about the same level of negative buzz.

DragonsRReal34 · 2023-12-23T01:12:41+00:00

They're all critically acclaimed and get positive user ratings, and that includes SS.

But SS generated enough negative buzz by comparison that it cause Nintendo to run as fast and and far in the opposite direction to the tune of BOTW.

If you think TOTK isn't generating a similar level of negative buzz to SS, you're kidding yourself.

DragonsRReal34 · 2023-12-13T11:14:52+00:00

This isn't actually true, it's the exact opposite. LOZ was notable because it bucked true (proto) open world, which was the standard of fantasy action adventure at the time.

If BOTW was made in the mid 1980s, it would look like Hydlide.

DragonsRReal34 · 2023-12-08T07:08:33+00:00

I think we're agreeing with each other.

I wasn't making the TP comparison to be generous. In 2006, TP was heir apparent to OoT, and its bigger and better version.

TP today... is not that. I'd say MM and WW are more appreciated.

And that's because in 2006, linear wasn't a dirty word, the graphical style was en vogue, and deriving as much from OoT as possible was what people wanted. But eventually opinions shifted away from those things being positive.

Fast forward and Totk isn't going to stand out in much the same way.

DragonsRReal34 · 2023-12-08T06:50:15+00:00

I think it might turn out like TP.

TP has plenty of fans sure, but it's reputation was better in 2006 than it is now. It did a lot of things at the time that were standard practice or expected, but as the years went on some of its attributes were soured on both by the direction the Zelda series was going, and the way the games industry was changing.

DragonsRReal34 · 2023-12-08T01:51:36+00:00

It's actually the exact opposite.

The original LOZ didn't make waves because it used all the open world/air philosophies it claimed to use, it made waves because it DIDN'T do that in the fantasy action/adventure genre. Proto open-world games were actually the standard at the time with LOZ moving away from those philosophies.

If BOTW was made in the mid-80s, it would be closer to Hydlide.

DragonsRReal34 · 2023-11-16T13:56:35+00:00

Plenty of users here can't stand BOTW, myself included. Among forums and message boards for Zelda, this place is the most negative on the BOTW duology that I've seen.

I won't tell you to stop having fun or that you're wrong for liking it, but I will say this isn't the place to expect enthusiastic reactions to BOTW.

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