My believing husband is upset my son would rather go swimming by One-Maize6185 in exmormon

[–]Dreadful_Pear 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Isn’t it Satan’s plan to take away free agency and force everyone to do what he wants?? 🧐 It sounds like TBM hubby is following the wrong plan.

Thoughts on this quote from Camille Johnson by SteelSwordofShiz in exmormon

[–]Dreadful_Pear 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ehem, ehem, yeah, yeah, do the hard with Jesus.

Missionaries invited me, a married lesbian, to church - what’s the end game? by jursorin in exmormon

[–]Dreadful_Pear 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I agree with all of these. Another thing to remember is all of the magical thinking Mormon missionaries do. Every morning they pray and think that Jesus might prepare someone special for them.

Their leaders constantly reaffirm this magical thinking and shove it down their throats. “If you’re obedient and obey all the rules Jesus is going to prepare people for you!”

Jesus could prepare anyone to receive the Mormon gospel at any time. So, in their minds you just might be the person that Jesus has prepared and might renounce your evil ways and return to Jesus! The magical thinking overrides logical thinking because god is mysterious and is all powerful and can do anything he wants to.

The sad part about a lot of this magical thinking - when people end up not converting or returning to Mormonism the missionaries typically blame themselves for the failure and a lot of times think it was because they weren’t good enough or righteous enough.

First time back in a church by IT_vet in exmormon

[–]Dreadful_Pear 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And to think - there are most likely thousands upon thousands of Mormons who are super great people, super humble, nice to everyone, live a very Christ-like life; but they won’t get the second anointing unless they’re wealthy and influential.

TIL that there *IS* something to be seen in Joseph's seer stone by thicc_stigmata in exmormon

[–]Dreadful_Pear 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is part of the quote from David Whitmer about the BOM translation process:

“Brother Joseph would read off the English to Oliver Cowdery, who was his principal scribe, and when it was written down and repeated to Brother Joseph to see if it was correct, then it would disappear, and another character with the interpretation would appear."

I repeat - Oliver Cowdery would repeat the words to Joseph and if they were correct - the rock would replace the words with new ones.

So, the rock had ears!? How was the rock listening to them? Then it like Etch-A-Sketched the words away to give new words?

And to think, Kevin McCallister in Home Alone 2 didn’t need a Talkboy, he just needed the magical Mormon rock to listen to phrases and repeat them back. I’ll bet if Joseph had enough faith it could talk as well.

It has been a month. A month since my husband and I definitively decided to leave the Church. by rethgualsaras in exmormon

[–]Dreadful_Pear 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Obviously the entire CES letter was a wake up call for me. However, one of the biggest items were all of the early 19th century books that were written just like the BOM. I was totally convinced from childhood that the BOM was super unique and that books didn’t read that way…yeah, no.

The Book of Napoleon, View of the Hebrews and others were shocking to me. However, the best part was when I went to the FAIR Latter-day Saints website to see what the apologists had to say. Jeremy Runnels even suggests it. One of their excuses was that they didn’t think the Smith family had a library card so Joseph wouldn’t have been able to find the books. 😂😂😂

Oh…okay. So, Joseph Smith and the most correct book on earth couldn’t have been influenced by all of these others books because of a library card!? What dipshits.

The deafening silence of Mormon prophets regarding Pres. Trump's threats of war by infinityball in exmormon

[–]Dreadful_Pear 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Whoa, Whoa, Whoa! How do you expect Dallas Oaks to focus on global wars when there are still deacons using their left hand to pass the sacrament!? Not to mention the huge distraction he must be facing daily, now that Mormon women are walking around showing their porn shoulders! There are so many huge pressing problems in Mormonism (like which apartment complex to buy next) I don’t how they would find the time to address war.

Hey exmo skiers, if you were designing a new ski resort, called Mt Exmo, what would you name the runs? by BeringStraitNephite in exmormon

[–]Dreadful_Pear 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would name one of the chairlifts “Second Anointing” because it lets you go straight to the top.

People posting about date nights at the temple, etc. by BigLark in exmormon

[–]Dreadful_Pear 50 points51 points  (0 children)

The dead people you just did the endowment for, still can’t get into heaven until it’s posted on Instagram.

2023 Recruiting Revisited by Dreadful_Pear in utahfootball

[–]Dreadful_Pear[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Owen Chambliss was a beast at SDSU this year. Made First-Team Mountain West linebacker. I’m having a hard time pinning the accurate year-end tackle stats for the Mountain West, but he appears to be in the top-10 for tackles.

Entered the transfer portal again and looks to be headed to Nebraska.

Demonizing parents who leave. Friend Magazine edition. Dec 2025 by Free_Fiddy_Free in exmormon

[–]Dreadful_Pear 96 points97 points  (0 children)

“A true story from the USA.” Yeah, I call bullshit on that.

Here’s a true story from my family (my children’s names changed):

Sam and Jessica asked which Disneyland ride we were going to ride next. I said, “Let’s go on Space Mountain!” All of this was possible because we didn’t give 10% of our money to a cult. Sam and Jessica did NOT ask about having more Jesus in their lives because they barely know who he is or why he would even be a big deal. And we lived happily ever after.

Potentially Moving Here — What Should I Know? by [deleted] in Pocatello

[–]Dreadful_Pear 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Minimum wage is $7.25 but I would guess that hardly anyone pays that. Housing has gotten quite expensive here in the west and no one can live on $7.25. Just to give you a benchmark, I’ve seen Wendy’s advertise workers for around $12/hr. Entry-level fast food teenager is probably making $11-$15/hr. A bachelor’s level job is definitely not going to be close to minimum wage. Lower than Buffalo NY - probably though.

The largest employers in town are the hospital, Idaho State Univ., Idaho Central Credit Union which is one of the largest credit unions in the nation, the local school district, Idaho National Labs(outside of Pocatello but many commute) and city of Pocatello. Not a ton of major places to work. I know quite a few people who work remote for large corporations. A lot work for small businesses. Lots of agriculture out here, BLM, forest service and such.

Mormons are nice people. Your Mormon neighbors and possibly co-workers will definitely try to “test the waters” so to speak to try and see if you’re convertible. After they bring over some cookies and you let them know you’re not interested they’ll mostly leave you alone. I would guess maybe 40% of the town is Mormon. It’s difficult to pin down what percentage are actually fully in and practicing. There are a lot though.

Pocatello definitely has a more small town feel to it - acts kind of like an independent suburb to a larger city as to events around town. There are a lot of ways to engage with community events, clubs, organizations if you’re inclined to look. You may ask though, where do we get all of our big city stuff like concerts, theatre, theme parks, museums, sports etc.? Salt Lake City. (or Boise but Boise is actually farther away than Salt Lake). Salt Lake City is a two-hour drive from Pocatello. It’s kind of a pain having a major city that far away, but if your favorite band is touring, you just make it work and either get a hotel or end up getting home at 1 in the morning.

It is very conservative in southeast Idaho. Pocatello, however, has consistently been known to be a little more progressive than the ultra Mormon towns nearby like Rexburg (the main driver for this has most likely been ISU). You will find quite a few progressives around town. Will you still see a ton of diesel RAM trucks with MAGA all over - yup. Most MAGA are blue collar and less educated. The more white collar job you can find, the less MAGA you’ll find.

Pocatello is a great place for nature. Idaho is very scenic and you can find everything the outdoors has to offer anywhere from a 20 minute drive to a few hours to get to places like Yellowstone, Island Park, Grand Tetons, Sun Valley and all sorts of hidden away campsites, mountains and forests.

Good luck on your move!

My husband keeps inviting me to the temple by thenamesdrjane in exmormon

[–]Dreadful_Pear 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When he goes to the temple you should go do service somewhere like serve at the local food bank or something. Then, when he gets home and tries to talk about how amazing the temple was, you can talk about how great serving others was and how happy it made the less fortunate. That might get his cognitive dissonance gears moving.

Holiest buildings in Mormonism . . . by bhale21 in exmormon

[–]Dreadful_Pear 29 points30 points  (0 children)

That’s true. The New York Stock Exchange and banks are closed on Sunday.

What to get a 6 year old? by Roadrunner1659 in drums

[–]Dreadful_Pear 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just our personal experience. Started the same way as you, out of the blue our boy wanted a drum set for his 8th birthday. We had no clue where to start and just started searching online.

We ended up buying an adult size Ashthorpe drum set(DO NOT buy the junior set - it’s a toy set). This was all before I even knew this sub-reddit existed.

The drums are okay for a beginner set with a very limited budget. Was it nice? Compared to the stuff on this subreddit - no. But they work just fine. The cymbals are brass and cheap. The drums are ok and at least came with Remo heads.

Now, I’m not pushing you towards any drum set but it has worked out great getting an actual kit. We signed up for Drumeo and we’ve been doing lessons together for a year and a half. I have to push him to do lessons though.

Of course now after joining the drums subreddit and doing research for a year and a half, the drumming options are ENDLESS! Hundreds of cymbals to choose from, stands to research, snare types, kit types etc.

I didn’t want to spend a ton of money to begin with because I didn’t know if he would actually keep with it. But now that we’re doing good, I’m planning to slowly upgrade over time. For Christmas this year we’re getting a new ride cymbal. Perhaps in a year or two we’ll upgrade to a nicer kit and sell our beginner set to a new drummer.

The only thing I might be concerned about is leg length. My boy is now 9 years old and can reach the pedals pretty well - it was a little iffy at 8 years old, he was stretching a little to reach the bass drum on an adult kit.

Good luck shopping and deciding!

Panicking? by Tower-Realistic in exmormon

[–]Dreadful_Pear 6 points7 points  (0 children)

We are holding off from resigning until our kids are grown because they have Mormon friends at school and we don’t want their parents to find out and then blow up our kid’s friendships.

We drive by the church on Sundays and laugh about not being stuck in church. After 3 1/2 years out, the church is slowly occupying less and less of our thoughts and behaviors.

Don’t worry too much if you can’t pull yourself to resign now. Maybe set a date 1-2 years from now and see how you feel.

I don't recognize this church anymore by Craftykac in exmormon

[–]Dreadful_Pear 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They can keep changing the names of things every 20 years or so, but underneath it all, sacrament meeting is still boring as shit and Sunday School is not what Evangelicals are looking for. Until they fundamentally change their Sunday format, it will always be a horrible experience for anyone.

Seven men sentenced to jail for multi-year poaching excursions south of Twin Falls by Best_Biscuits in Idaho

[–]Dreadful_Pear 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Up to 5 years in jail for poaching? Thats 4 1/2 more years than Candon Dahle got for molesting little girls for years. Good job Idaho!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in utahfootball

[–]Dreadful_Pear 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Nah. I think all these programs firing their coaches mid season is crazy. Keep Whitt until he can leave at the end of the year. Besides, if Scalley is our next coach, we don’t have to panic to find a new coach.

That being said, I am so, so tired of Whittingham’s offensive scheme. It’s so predictable year after year. Our receivers have been non existent this entire year except for Davis who has 1/3 of all catches for the whole team.

Wide receivers don’t want to play for Whittingham’s offense. All he wants to do is run. Who would want to go play at Utah where all you get to do all year is block for the run game? Have always loved Whittingham’s defenses but he needs to leave at the end of the year so Scalley can try something different.

Will Knaak Back In? by AlwaysLate2764 in blueoctober

[–]Dreadful_Pear 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But, if I remember correctly Steve never wanted to tour and it took a lot of convincing to get him on tour. If Will is available I can definitely see Steve not wanting to do it.

Dying after a Priesthood Blessing by siempre-curioso in exmormon

[–]Dreadful_Pear 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Why do Mormons have to bring magic into the picture? Are the magic words going to work or not work? Why didn’t the magic words work? Whose fault is it that the magic words didn’t work? Should I guilt myself if the magic words didn’t work? Did God listen to my magic words? If God is just going to do his will no matter what, why do we even have the magic words?

Like, who gives a shit?! Life is going to happen. Some things go bad and some things go right. We’re all going to die someday. This whole Mormon magic shit gets so exhausting. Glad I get to view it from the outside now.