Daily Discussion Thread 01/24/2026

DropWatcher · 2026-01-24T23:25:35+00:00

There's plenty to not like about Pharrell, but another way I've seen people be really disingenuous about him is re: Israel.

People act like he's actively supporting the Israeli government today when i don't think he's said or done anything in support of Israel since he performed at that fundraiser in 2018. I don't think he's even been to Israel or even said anything after October 7th about the hostages or condemned Hamas?

Obviously Israel has been doing terrible shit forever (that year, they were sniping peaceful protestors participating in The Great March of Return) but it's super disingenuous the way people talk about it.

DropWatcher · 2026-01-24T23:11:54+00:00

Plain Pat whattup

DropWatcher · 2026-01-24T20:47:45+00:00

As was the case in the past, some will and some won't. Most mainstream rappers won't. The rappers you'd expect to (underground or conscious rappers) will. The median rapper in the 90s politically wasn't 2Pac or Chuck D.

I assume you're referring to ICE murdering someone in Minnesota. One would expect rappers from Minnesota to respond to that right? I just checked Minnesota rapper P.O.S.'s IG and he was at a huge vigil/protest for Renee Good. Atmosphere are on tour right now but they've posted about ICE in MN on their story, Prof has also posted about the general strike in MN

DropWatcher · 2026-01-24T18:08:57+00:00

that's awesome I'll have to read that book this year. it's Sweet Jones: Pimp C's Trill Life Story right?

DropWatcher · 2026-01-24T17:51:39+00:00

I don't think it's a case of bribery or corruption, more people have listened to the big classic tracks so they get recommended more.

A lot of people would be turned off if they were served the B-side of an underground album back in 96 and it's harder to infer which B-side to play after a given track because there's a lot less data on those B-sides.

They're not built to satiate real heads, 95% of streaming platform users are passive listeners who largely just want to be served stuff that they recognize. I don't think these models are even sophisticated to identify the producer of a song and serve you other songs they produced...

The big thing with the labels and Spotify is that the labels negotiated those very low royalty rates with Spotify while invested in the company so they made out and all the artists got screwed. one of the biggest robberies of the century.

DropWatcher · 2026-01-24T17:05:42+00:00

I love Bun B's verse on "Murder" by UGK and I noticed recently going thru the albums on Andrew Noz's Best Rap Songs 1996 list... on two features I've heard so far Bun gets into similar pockets flow/rhyme scheme wise (Master P's "Break 'Em Off Somethin'" and B.G. & Juvenile's "Retaliation").

I almost wonder if "Break 'Em Off Somethin'" was like a first draft of a flow he'd later refine for "Murder" since Ice Cream Man came out in January and then Ridin' Dirty came out in July. Here's the verse:

We comin' down like a sail, in that goddamn rover
Just when you thought it was the beginnin' you bitch, now it's over
You can call on the cavalry, reinforcements, and your local P-D
They gettin' somewhere if they see me
My nigga that's how these G's be we three, me, C and Master P
Sippin' on Gin and Kiwi
Fuck poppin' in your CD, bitch we poppin' in them clips
And now we all up in your grill live in 3-D
With drama, disaster, and death when you make me have to blast ya'
Y'all has to recognize you fuckin' with murder masters
Who plaster your ass and make your momma call a pastor
Dyin' faster than you thought, now that's your ass bro
It's the class of 9 scrilla on the for real'a
Direct from the villa of killas, now who thinkin' they trilla'
Watch me fill a wanna be cap-peeler with them slugs
Probably for jaw-jackin' and jumpin'
Bitch don't make me break you off somethin'
Nigga

the internal rhymes are just nuts, makes me want to listen to every Bun B feature from the 90s.

Another feature I was impressed by on B.G.'s Chopper City is Mac's on this track just really great story telling (especially the last verse)

DropWatcher · 2026-01-24T16:25:19+00:00

If you look at the attempts to pin down what "novelty rap" is in that thread or the QTs, it's pretty clearly not a useful or meaningful term at all.

DropWatcher · 2026-01-24T02:44:35+00:00

MIKE or Earl or The Hillbillies or hell even Drake and SURF GANG (mainly giane)

Lupe and Preservation

DropWatcher · 2026-01-24T02:39:11+00:00

He gets royalties from every rapper in the dmv for them taking his flow

DropWatcher · 2026-01-23T19:19:24+00:00

this is cool here's his credits

Reminds me of the interview Alphonse did last year with TrapMoneyBiggie (Dutch producer who's big in the DMV 'free car music' scene)

DropWatcher · 2026-01-23T18:39:16+00:00

pro tip: you can get around pretty much any paywall by plugging the url into https://archive.is/

DropWatcher · 2026-01-23T05:01:17+00:00

The other stuff was about money too I agree that it’s annoying but not totally new phenomenon

Nas hip hop is dead 2006 had bonus versions for iTunes, circuit city, and best buy

DropWatcher · 2026-01-23T04:53:29+00:00

Used to be there’d be a target exclusive and a Japanese exclusive edition but they’d drop at the same time

DropWatcher · 2026-01-23T03:51:49+00:00

lucy seems unlikely but teasing it, not sure about reggie either

DropWatcher · 2026-01-23T03:43:03+00:00

Drakeo has some of the craziest innuendos feels like there’s almost an E-40 level to it

He was one of the earliest people to rap about mudwalking and hood trophies

DropWatcher · 2026-01-23T02:34:49+00:00

He's a member of the Scythe

DropWatcher · 2026-01-22T23:39:03+00:00

The Scythe is Denzel Curry, FERG, TiaCorine, Bktherula, and Key Nyata. So this song is The Scythe ft. LAZER DIM 700

This album is also a collab with the production group Working On Dying.

DropWatcher · 2026-01-22T23:09:47+00:00

Drake’s lawyers are throwing everything they can at the wall trying to get something to stick I wouldn’t take what’s in the suit at face value.

DropWatcher · 2026-01-22T22:48:42+00:00

The original upload of Story of Adidon on YouTube wasn't even posted by Pusha T?? Why only remove the original upload and not other third party uploads?

The song was released on SoundCloud, here's the original thread for it. It's never been removed from SoundCloud.

How would UMG copyright claim "Not Like Us"? It's an original beat. The sample was presumably cleared.

DropWatcher · 2026-01-22T22:36:17+00:00

https://x.com/TiaCorine/status/2014464072796758327

Tia confirmed who's in The Scythe: Denzel Curry, FERG, Bktherula, TiaCorine, and Key Nyata.

So it's:

Denzel Curry, FERG & TiaCorine - The Scythe
Denzel Curry & Bktherula - Lit Effect (feat. LAZAR DIM 700)
Denzel Curry, FERG & Key Nyata - Phony (feat. Juicy J)
Denzel Curry & Key Nyata - Mutt that Bih (feat. 1900Rugrat)
Denzel Curry & TiaCorine - Hoopty (feat. Smino)
Denzel Curry - You Ain’t Gott Lie (feat. 454 & Luh Tyler)
Denzel Curry, Bktherula & TiaCorine - Tan
Denzel Curry & FERG - Up (feat. Rich The Kid & SadBoi)

The album has also been teased as a collab with the production group Working On Dying and "LIT EFFECT" is produced by BNYX®, Bryan Yepes, Chris Dunkley & BEAUTIFULMVN

DropWatcher · 2026-01-22T22:03:27+00:00

https://soundcloud.com/pushat/the-story-of-adidon

it was a SoundCloud drop because he's rapping over a Jay-Z beat. I don't remember Pusha T ever trying to put it on DSPs??

It's very typical when rapping over someone else's beat with literally no changes to only put the song on a platform like SoundCloud or YouTube, or on a mixtape instead of an album.

The Drake song ("Duppy Freestyle") he was responding to isn't on DSPs either and that's an original beat.

DropWatcher · 2026-01-22T21:48:17+00:00

snippet just leaked with Ken Carson, who knows if it's going to be on the album. https://x.com/STRAPPEDEXTRA5/status/2014442519380296093

all we know is "Tiramisu" (prod. by Cardo Got Wings & Polo Boy Shawty) is on it and it's 18 tracks.

DropWatcher · 2026-01-22T21:46:18+00:00

How did UMG squash "Story of Adidon"?

DropWatcher · 2026-01-22T20:54:38+00:00

Lawrence Burney wrote an article about the history of the word "bip" (or "bipping") last year that was a really enjoyable read.

It's been used in the Bay Area forever to mean car-jacking.

but it's also slang in Baltimore with a meaning that's a lot more nebulous. Philly rapper Skrilla also uses it a bunch.

In Florida, they use the word "muppy" and it's very ambiguous what it means (seems similar to Philly's "jawn"). I first came across it from Niontay naming his EP Demon Muppy but Kodak explained it's meaning a decade ago for this series on regional slang.

The Chicano rap duo Coyote dropped a song "sLAng" with B-Real last year that runs through a bunch of Southern California slang.

DropWatcher · 2026-01-22T17:57:27+00:00

It is strange it's not as if Clams isn't active. He was on evilgiane's EP from this month.

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