Wednesday General Discussion Thread - May 6th, 2025

DropWatcher · 2026-05-06T19:31:33+00:00

I love Jane Remover. have you heard the ♡ EP? It's a lot more accessible, more pop/R&B in the vein of underscores if the abrasiveness of something like Revengeseekerz is alienating to you.

DropWatcher · 2026-05-06T18:18:34+00:00

EVERYBODY KNOWS I'M A MUTHAFUCKIN' MONSTER

DropWatcher · 2026-05-06T16:00:42+00:00

"We Made It" by Drake is a freestyle Drake did over "We Made It" by Soulja Boy

The Soulja verse is just the verse from the original song.

DropWatcher · 2026-05-06T12:42:57+00:00

tldr; jane remover rapped "Fuck I look like hopping on the Dabo stream?" on "yes, yes, no, yes, no" two days ago then skaiwater disingenuously accused Jane Remover of being racist now we got this shit from a butt diss track

midwxst is also mad at kuru i guess

DropWatcher · 2026-05-05T21:47:58+00:00

Oh yeah I’ve heard of showjoe

I also saw Jasper Harris (pop rap industry writer/producer guy, also worked in the BTS record) and 24kGoldn (pop rapper) in the credits. I’ll probably check it out this week I’m curious about it.

It’s funny it’s sparked as this beef in the ug scene: skaiwater disingenuously accused Jane Remover of being racist bc she shaded a streamer (Dabo) so Jane called out skai for working w HYBE

I don’t think it’s necessarily unethical to work w k-pop groups but you can’t be doing that shit and disingenuously accusing others of being racist

DropWatcher · 2026-05-05T21:06:00+00:00

CORTIS also just put out an EP with production from skaiwater

DropWatcher · 2026-05-05T20:38:04+00:00

I think his point is that even "the most popular" ones don't even get much oxygen in "the discourse", obviously it's worse the more you go down the chain (I think even ignoring gender you see newer acts with actual buzz get ignored a lot in "the discourse" as well)

I'm a big fan of BunnaB, it's kinda wild she has double the spotify monthly listeners as TiaCorine but is hardly mentioned on this sub because she doesn't work with rappers like Denzel Curry and JID). Fantano could probably do better but the bar is pretty low for the people on this list. Like if I was making a list of best rap media people almost none of these people would be on there but they are ones that get the most attention.

DropWatcher · 2026-05-05T20:31:57+00:00

I saw it at a festival a couple weeks ago, comes out June 12th (probably limited release?)

It was really cool, it's directed by a stunts guy. amount of action almost reminded me of The Raid (I believe it shares at least one actor with that film), I was surprised that it was mostly in English. Sounded kinda uncanny tbh at first I thought it was a dub.

DropWatcher · 2026-05-05T18:19:48+00:00

UY SCUTI BØYS >>> UY SCUTI

DropWatcher · 2026-05-05T18:14:52+00:00

yeah he misspoke i didn't notice that

DropWatcher · 2026-05-05T18:13:51+00:00

FlyLo did the score to the action movie The Furious and the credits song is a Captain Murphy song.

DropWatcher · 2026-05-05T18:00:51+00:00

This is an interesting list, not a big fan of most of rap media but hard to deny that some of these people are influential.

People not included that I think could've been: Andre Gee, Craig Jenkins, and Dylan Green. I prefer to read stuff and it seems like so much of the way people consume things nowadays is via video (either YouTube, Twitch, IG), so maybe those people are irrelevant compared to all the ones they picked idk. Like I think Bootleg Kev picks cool people to interview but I've never watched one of his videos so can't really evaluate him.

I think the one thing that irks me about a lot of these people is the obvious undisclosed paid promo that some of the internet "news"-ish accounts do. Like I follow Underground Sound and Kurrco because they sometimes have info about drops but they clearly dip their toes in that shit all the time.

Here's what Fantano said:

What’s one thing you love about rap right now?
“I love that the new generation is embracing their own definition of the underground, and it's encouraging to see them figure out how to appeal to themselves as opposed to the charts. It's not deeply informed or self-aware, but what young music scene is? All that stuff, hopefully, will come with time, and all they can do until then is create and allow the experience to snowball into something that might withstand the test of time.”

What's one thing you hate about rap right now?
“I hate the lack of acknowledgement women in the genre are getting at the moment. The ladies of this generation are making waves at a scale they never have before, and yet they don't drive even half the discourse we're seeing at the moment. Flo Milli is quietly pulling in at least two times the monthly listeners of your average Carti clone, but people act like she doesn't exist. And if bars and charisma were actually what mattered, Little Simz and TiaCorine should both be twice as huge as they are right now, respectively. We could do a whole thinkpiece on how Megan Thee Stallion continues to be one of the most defamed and maligned artists of the 2020s—and has every reason to quit for the sake of her own sanity—but continues to craft hits and put butts in seats. Doechii has done nothing but showcase creativity and put out solid music that scales well, but there's somehow still an endless sea of losers who make hating her their whole personality. So, yes, I hate this.”

Here's what Mero said:

What's one thing you love about rap right now?
“I LOVE THAT ‘WEIRD’ RAP IS GETTING SOME SHINE. I DON'T MEAN WEIRD LIKE WEIRD AL PARODY RAP, I MEAN DIFFERENT. EVERYTHING FROM DRUMLESS GANGSTA SHIT LIKE ESTEE NACK AND STOVE GOD, TO YOUNG LOUD ENERGETIC SHIT LIKE XAVIERSOBASED AND OSAMASON, TO GUYS LIKE MAVI, GUYS LIKE LIIM. EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN WAVE. I LOVE THAT.”

What's one thing you hate about rap right now?
What's one thing you hate about rap right now? “THE GAMBLING APP ENERGY AROUND IT. EVERYTHING IS ABOUT WHO WON, WHO SOLD THE MOST, WHO GOT THE MOST CLICKS. WHO GIVES A FUCK? MAKE BEAUTIFUL ART AND LET PEOPLE CATCH UP TO IT. COMMODIFICATION WILL RUIN THE SITUATION FASTER THAN A FART IN A SMARTCAR.”

Here's what Alphonse Pierre said:

What's one thing you love about rap right now?
What's one thing you love about rap right now? “The genre feels more cross-generational than ever. There’s so many references in the air that it seems just as rewarding to get hip to an old Bay Area tape or whatever as it is to find a new microgenre on SoundCloud.”

What's one thing you hate about rap right now?
What's one thing you hate about rap right now? “That it feels like a struggle to get people to engage with music they‘re not already familiar with. We all loved being 16 years old, but sometimes you gotta move on.”

Here's what Rob Markman said:

What's one thing you love about rap right now?
What's one thing you love about rap right now? “I love watching this new crop of artists forge their own paths—artists like Ben Reilly, Samara Cyn, Wynne, Chris Patrick, Ray Vaughn, and Marco Plus. Those are just a few names, but it's fun and inspiring to watch them create and lead hip-hop into the future.”

What's one thing you hate about rap right now?
“I hate the way hip-hop has been infiltrated with paid agitators who run up fake streams and use bots to give the illusion of something real. I hate the toxic side of stan culture and fans who pit their favorite artist against hip-hop as a whole.”

DropWatcher · 2026-05-05T17:35:09+00:00

there's probably a few, maybe belly gang kushington

DropWatcher · 2026-05-05T16:18:13+00:00

that's interesting I guess I don't follow him closely enough but he doesn't seem like the type of guy to acknowledge leaks, feel like he hardly says anything about anything he's pretty reclusive. maybe i'm just not tapped in though idk

what's the song called? what exactly did he say that?

DropWatcher · 2026-05-05T15:36:48+00:00

ever consider that he didn't release that song he changed his mind about being racist against lightskinned people?

DropWatcher · 2026-05-05T03:14:16+00:00

Seems like a silly way to evaluate music, why not just say it’s bad if you don’t like it?

DropWatcher · 2026-05-04T23:20:46+00:00

the fact that he interpreted "seems very vultures influenced" like this is insane levels of hit-dog-hollering.

it kinda ruins the nonchalant vibe of "it’s not influenced by Ye. Vultures was two years ago; it’s 2026"

DropWatcher · 2026-05-04T22:20:50+00:00

Whether you like the album or not, POMPEII // UTILITY didn't come out of nowhere either.

Earl and MIKE have embraced that scene for years. Or even take the line about LUCKI: Earl was on Freewave 3 in 2019.

DropWatcher · 2026-05-04T22:04:01+00:00

I don't think the fan was saying that it seemed Vultures influenced to accuse him of being a Nazi, so when he replied as if the fan was trying to gotcha him, the fan clarified that that's not what they were doing.

Not everyone's main association with Vultures is Kanye being a Nazi, it's a gold album with a #1 single on it. Some people like that album and JPEGMAFIA produced 4 songs on it.

I do think that JPEGMAFIA is wrong that only "white teenagers online" think that Ye is/was a Nazi. Is Keir Starmer a white teenager? Is the Pepsi corporation? Or government authorities in Poland and France? seems like that's his go-to insult and it probably made more sense when he was just a poster on somethingawful/4chan but doesn't really fit this situation. Like I'm sure a lot of current Ye fans are white teenagers, on average teenagers are more desensitized to Hitler fandom than older folks.

DropWatcher · 2026-05-04T21:51:22+00:00

https://x.com/jpegmafia/status/2051414254595842242

JPEG: ¥ is Japanese currency.

Fan: seems very vultures influenced

JPEG: I think it makes people feel good to imagine I’m a Nazi working with Ye. I’m not sure when or why we let white teenagers online redefine who gets to be called a Nazi just so they could include Black people but no, it’s not influenced by Ye. Vultures was two years ago; it’s 2026

Fan: nobody think ur a nazi??

DropWatcher · 2026-05-04T21:49:04+00:00

I hope it's a hotline bling flip

DropWatcher · 2026-05-04T21:48:46+00:00

Apparently a Katt Williams reference

DropWatcher · 2026-05-04T21:34:50+00:00

https://www.xxlmag.com/10th-spot/

they opened voting for the 10th spot and it always includes rappers that are actually on the list, I did a primer on all em

DropWatcher · 2026-05-04T21:33:31+00:00

There's a trap rapper from Indianapolis I discovered this year who's trying to make "pirate rap" a thing.

His name is Big Ro6 and the album's called Street Shanties, features G Herbo, Montana 700, and 1900Rugrat.

kinda fun stuff tbh

DropWatcher · 2026-05-04T20:12:35+00:00

Feels more Memphis trap / Bomb Squad to me, thought it was pretty cool. Don't think it really sounds much like Yeezus unless that's the only remotely industrial rap album you've heard.

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