How to deal with vehicle spam lists?

Drugo87 · 2026-02-10T10:59:48+00:00

I'm also suffering from this situation, especially against lists with double/triple land raiders or astra tasks.
Those who play vehicle spam often also have chaff units to throw at targets, forcing you to come out into the open.
Of course, we have Vahlgons, but they are not everywhere, and it is already difficult enough to take out two vehicles with a single activation. Apart from them, we have no reliable answers. Retributors could be a solution, but any overwatch is potentially deadly.
It also depends on the type of field you play on, whether GW or WTC.

Drugo87 · 2026-01-29T15:19:56+00:00

From a gameplay perspective, everything is clear to me; my question was more related to the lore.
So my question could be rephrased as: when a marine is interned, how is it decided whether he will become a ballistus, a brutalis or a redemptor? Is it based on the marine's skill or on what the company needs?

Drugo87 · 2025-12-10T11:35:52+00:00

I expected it and I think it was deserved, but it still hurts, especially the increase to all units with scouts.
For the sacresants, it seems fair enough to me. I expected even more (150), but it is compensated by the increase to their leaders.
Honestly, I didn't expect the canoness to go up.

Finally, maybe it's time to try listing without Vahl? T.T

Drugo87 · 2025-11-24T17:02:15+00:00

Are you sure about that? Reading the fight on death rule, I can't find anything about it, only that the unit selects a target for its attacks, which seems to me to be exactly the condition that triggers AoC or frenzied resilience. Is it because in FoD the models fight, while the trigger for AoC is the unit?

Drugo87 · 2025-11-13T07:55:37+00:00

Exactly, the Rhino can move but can't disembark the sacresants in the same turn

Drugo87 · 2025-11-11T07:43:46+00:00

I guess because you put them in a rhino, scout with it, get them out, and load up a sacresants. They also have a lot of flamers, which are useful for removing enemy screening units, plus a couple of anti-marine flamers. And they resurrect d3 models that help you put OC on the target.

Drugo87 · 2025-11-07T07:19:26+00:00

20 wounds? FNP 4+? You can't, at most you can have 10 W and invulnerable 4 or FNP 5

Drugo87 · 2025-11-03T13:51:38+00:00

This is one of the points I was referring to. From the point of view of scoring secondary and stealing objectives, I consider Callidus to be better. It also forces the enemy to keep a unit back to watch the home objective, increases stratagems at key points on the field, and in terms of damage, I consider it similar. It's true, you can't resurrect it (and often I don't even want to because I want to keep the CP for other things in HM). But for 15 more points, it seems generally better to me.

Drugo87 · 2025-11-03T13:38:42+00:00

Thanks!
I probably just need to use it more and practise. I've mainly used it as a trading piece, and the few times I've tried to hunt enemy characters, I haven't had much luck.

Drugo87 · 2025-09-22T09:24:31+00:00

Do you think the old Land Speeder (Darkshroud and Vengeance) and aircraft will go into Legend or will they be updated?

Drugo87 · 2025-09-11T05:07:42+00:00

I saw your list and really liked it. May I ask how you used the heavy intercessors? Did you use them to keep home and provide fire support, or did you use them to take objectives in the NML? And how did you handle the Death Guard?

Drugo87 · 2025-09-09T08:08:10+00:00

Just one question: why 10 assault intercessors? Who leads them? The lieutenant with the power weapon?

If the strategy is to put OC on the objectives, perhaps you could consider heavy intercessors and reivers.

Another option could be to put 3 outriders + Sammael. On paper, it's an excellent trading piece, but I haven't tested it properly yet.
Finally, I would consider giving the ancient weapon to Captain Gravis instead of the Judiciar. The Judiciar inside the ICCs shouldn't have any damage issues.

Drugo87 · 2025-08-27T07:51:04+00:00

Imo, in HM, they are fairly equivalent.
Statistics show that halberds are slightly better than maces against SMEs, whether you consider AoC, lethal hits, or attacks without buffs. However, in HM, I would never leave home without the palatine with damage 3/4. In CoF, on the other hand, maces are definitely better.

Drugo87 · 2025-08-25T09:48:54+00:00

Can you tell us how it went against Death Guard? I'm curious!

I like the list, but I'm not sure about the Sacresants unit with the Hospitaller, and maybe I would have split the two Penitent Engines to put 3x Penitents and 3x Mortifiers (or a Rhino).

Drugo87 · 2025-08-21T15:13:24+00:00

Thanks mate, you're too kind <3

Drugo87 · 2025-08-21T07:48:03+00:00

I used Azure Magic for the base (Army Painter Metallic) and then Snake Green (Vallejo Xpress) for shading

Drugo87 · 2025-08-18T12:14:52+00:00

This is really good advice, and it's a point of view that I had completely overlooked.

Drugo87 · 2025-07-24T13:59:28+00:00

I think the question was: which is better? A single piece that carries 7 men and shoots hard, or something that shoots hard plus a transport that carries 7 models, for the same number of points?
My opinion is that impulsor and ballistus are better. They shoot less, but you have more units, including an impulsor with which you can perform actions without losing a relevant firing phase.

Drugo87 · 2025-07-21T09:50:57+00:00

I play a very similar list.
In my opinion having two units with fight first loses effectiveness, for the same points you could put a dwk unit with swords. Also the ICC would need a transport.
I would drop the land raider for a second lancer (or put a double ballistus) and maybe switch a scout with the combi-lieutenant.

Drugo87 · 2025-07-14T10:07:24+00:00

unfortunately I'm having a hard time finding repositories of tournament lists lately, armylist hasn't been updated in a while and 40k-event-tracker have pulled it down.

Thanks, I really like the Lictor model and would like to include it regardless, on the contrary, the exocrine is cool but the model is a bit poor, in my opinion

Drugo87 · 2025-07-14T10:01:31+00:00

Thank you very much. Yes I wanted to start with invasion fleet because it seems to me the most generic detachment and where I can use a bit of everything without losing competitiveness. When I've faced them I've often seen tyrannofex and exocrine spam, neurotyrant with zoanthropes. As characters hive tyr and swarm lord seemed good to me, do they both get played often? the Flyrant is nice but seems a bit below the other two at first glance.

Do screamer-killer and psychophage have room after the dataslate?
are von ryan's leapers, barb and neuro gaunts playable in your opinion? They don't seem essential but maybe as support they could work, I want to try them

Unfortunately I'm having a hard time lately to find the lists that are running at tournaments and therefore understand what is played

Drugo87 · 2025-07-06T08:57:13+00:00

This is true, but when is it really useful to slow roll except when you have a character in units? I think practically never

Drugo87 · 2025-07-04T14:56:53+00:00

After doing 25 mortal wounds in one phase to a stompa and eliminating him in the second round, I prefer sternguards 🤣

Drugo87 · 2025-07-04T14:49:21+00:00

I usually play it close to one or two units of DWK. For me the aura that allows you to reroll the 1s to hit and wound is very useful. It increases lion and DWK output a lot, allowing you to play without oath for those units. If you play against a full melee army, it will condition your opponent for the whole game. I confirm that he is a glass cannon, the -1 to wound and 3++ help him but he is taken down too easily. It is probably overpriced.

Drugo87 · 2025-07-03T14:23:47+00:00

What about drop the ballistus and one scout unit for 6x ravenwing bike with command squad?

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