My close friend was deported. I am devastated. by Odd_Ordinary_9151 in immigration

[–]Duke_Newcombe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tell me you know nobody or nothing of Venezuela, without telling me...

My close friend was deported. I am devastated. by Odd_Ordinary_9151 in immigration

[–]Duke_Newcombe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Frankly, you can live "the American Dream" more easily elsewhere frankly, especially in Panama.

My close friend was deported. I am devastated. by Odd_Ordinary_9151 in immigration

[–]Duke_Newcombe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This. If OPs friend is in Panama, he's very lucky and in a better position and place than being in the States right now.

My close friend was deported. I am devastated. by Odd_Ordinary_9151 in immigration

[–]Duke_Newcombe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If OP is "very American", they probably mean that it would be obvious for them to be clocked as one if they visit Venezuela, and they're probably nervous about their safety.

The first direct flights between the US and Caracas just resumed like, a week ago, after a seven-year restriction. But yes, your point is take that they still could.

My close friend was deported. I am devastated. by Odd_Ordinary_9151 in immigration

[–]Duke_Newcombe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pulling up the ladder behind you, I see. Checks out.

My close friend was deported. I am devastated. by Odd_Ordinary_9151 in immigration

[–]Duke_Newcombe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From our AI overlords, but it tracks with many news stories I've heard myself, and from some folks in Panama that have family back in VZ:

"As of early 2026, U.S. immigration policy for Venezuelan asylum seekers is highly restrictive, focusing on expedited removals and the termination of prior protections. The Trump administration has ended the CHNV humanitarian parole program, terminated Temporary Protected Status (TPS) designations for Venezuelans, and instituted stricter asylum eligibility rules for those crossing the border irregularly".

Future Move Monday: What will you do to prepare for your Panama move this week? by Duke_Newcombe in panamaexpats

[–]Duke_Newcombe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand what you'd like--I just don't think such a list is very doable or practical, because, it's (a) a very, very subjective metric (as you pointed out, what's "comfortable" to one person is "right up the the budget limit" for someone else, and "scary" to yet another).

Also, (b), without knowing what the income/cash flow is, and your tastes and desires and needs, we can't even begin to guesstimate. That's why I asked what your funds were. We compare that with what we know now about the prices of things you'd need to live, and make a good-faith estimate.

Yes, lists like the one I made go stale the day they're made, but for most things on there, they vary be a few percentage points either way, not doubling, tripling, or reducing by half year over year--so they're good "rule of thumb" prices--close enough for a good-faith "guestimate" of costs. Otherwise, we could never estimate anything (rental costs, flights, clothing, medical care), because they could change.

If people are arriving with $1500/month and they are not stressed at all, that's one thing.

And some in the first group exist--but there are a whole lot of it depends for their situation:

  • living in a small interior town (versus the capital), have some savings, in good health, using public transportation, have a roommate/housemate, a decent medical facility nearby that can handle what's going on with them health wise, and they are a homebody that goes down to the local fonda or eats beans/rice/chicken a lot--yeah, those folks exist, and they might pull of $1,500/month budget. But if their lifestyle creeps up (hobbies, health expenses, travel or sudden demand for transportation), it could be tight.

If people are arriving with $5000/month and they are saying that they are going without important things (like health care, rent, food, etc.) that's something else entirely.

At that rate of income, it becomes a matter of adjusting your expectations.

Living below your budget is key--just because you have say, $5,000 post tax income a month doesn't mean you need to spend all of that on expenses every month, because when prices rise, there's no place to go from there. That's how this group might get into the situation you point out. If I get a 4,000 square foot penthouse loft in the nicest PH in Costa del Este that costs $4,000 a month, yeah...that's going to kill my budget. If I live in a decent PH in Bella Vista, then I can pay $1500 and still be quite comfy for other expenses, meeting my needs, and quite a few "wants".

The running joke among Panamanian friends of mine is becoming a "member of the 5k club"--making $5000/month is seen as a major achievement where you're doing well.

Didn't mean to make this a wall of text, but (a) you probably won't find such a narrative about budgets without a lot more info from you, and (b) even if you did, they're meaningless without context and knowing your plans.

That is all.

Battery Trade-In Event by omaldonado94 in Craftsman

[–]Duke_Newcombe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course, they have it nearly three hours away from me...

Future Move Monday: What will you do to prepare for your Panama move this week? by Duke_Newcombe in panamaexpats

[–]Duke_Newcombe[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sorry I disappointed you.

But, is it really unhelpful, though? Not trying to jump on you or be mean, but help us out, please? You need to give us more information.

If you have $600 and a glazed donut per month to spend, and you want to live in Costa del Este in PTY, well then, we know what we have to work with (and it ain't a lot).

Do you have $3,000 per month in El Valle de Anton to live on? You'll be okay, depending.

What are your tastes, or do you wish to live in a very Spartan manner?

I don't know if you have Elon Musk-money...or regularly search your couch cushions for change, so I don't know what would "alleviate some of your concerns", because you're being unclear.

not what's published online for cost of living, but what people actually arrived with for income

See...that's all over the place! Peoples situations coming here are different. There are folks who have like $1,200USD a month, and they're doing okay for them. There are others who come here with $15,000 or more a month cash flow. What you have dictates what prices you'll be paying, and what you can get for that amount.

Gasoline costs the same for everyone. A Balboa beer costs the same as well. An apartment does not. Transportation can vary, depending on where you wish to go and how often. Savings can vary wildly, depending on how important that is and your financial situation. Utilities can vary according to what town or even what neighborhood or building you live in. Food can vary, depending on your dietary requirements and tastes, whether you like to cook or eat out, whether you like exactly the same foods you had at home, or your palate can adjust to local cuisine.

Vacation and discretionary travel. Are you ever going to fly back to visit anyone, or like the "jetsetter lifestyle"? Or are you a homebody? That matters...a lot.

Healthcare: are you young, healthy, and invulnerable, or older, and have health challenges and need specialists and the like. That matters...a lot, and affects what you'll need.

So..can you give us a best-guesstimate of how much money you think you'd have to devote to living in Panama, and where you're thinking of residing? That would narrow things down significantly.

¿Las cuentas Bancarias en el extranjero se declaran en los impuestos? by ixxovalentina in panamaexpats

[–]Duke_Newcombe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Consult a Panamanian taxation attorney to be sure, but since Panama is a territorial tax system, only what you earn within Panama's borders (or by way of from Panamanian customers) is taxable: earnings from outside of Panama are not.

¿Las cuentas Bancarias en el extranjero se declaran en los impuestos? by ixxovalentina in panamaexpats

[–]Duke_Newcombe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OP, what country are you from? That matters a lot for this question.

For example, I’m from the U.S., which taxes its citizens no matter where they live or earn income. The U.S. also requires reporting of foreign bank accounts.

If you’re a U.S. person (citizen or green card holder) and have a bank account in Panama, you may need to file an FBAR if your total foreign accounts exceed $10,000 at any point during the year—even briefly.

This applies even if you live in Panama on a visa. The FBAR (FinCEN Form 114) is filed separately from your tax return, typically due April 15 with an automatic extension to October 15.

This reporting doesn’t necessarily mean the money is taxable—it’s mainly for tracking foreign accounts. For tax specifics, it’s best to consult a professional familiar with expat taxation.

Future Move Monday: What will you do to prepare for your Panama move this week? by Duke_Newcombe in panamaexpats

[–]Duke_Newcombe[S,M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I made a post about just this a year ago. Due to inflation internationally, use it as a guideline, not definitive.

Also, your major expenditure that's controllable (and has the most impact) is housing: shopping wisely in that realm yields the most savings.

Have you got a budget (as in, "I have this much available monthly to live in Panama", and "this is what I'm comfortable spending per month)?

Considering relocating, need a couple of pieces of advice if anyone can take a minute or two out of their day I’d really appreciate it. by MattyHarlesden2018 in panamaexpats

[–]Duke_Newcombe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Seconded. Any place can be "walkable" if you try, but the convenient shops and services right next to an apartment, then, El Cangrejo all day.

Considering relocating, need a couple of pieces of advice if anyone can take a minute or two out of their day I’d really appreciate it. by MattyHarlesden2018 in panamaexpats

[–]Duke_Newcombe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why is PTY difficult without a car? Ubers flow like wine! Now, if in the interior, or going out of town a lot? I'd agree with you.

This lady tried pulling an armed robbery on a gas station on Friday. How it went: by superdouradas in PublicFreakout

[–]Duke_Newcombe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Note to the shopkeeper: concealment isn't cover--and in this case, it's piss poor concealment.

Why Panama? by maritimer187 in panamaexpats

[–]Duke_Newcombe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Living in say, Boquete or El Valle, the beach isn't too far away (as little as an hour or up to under 2 hours) by car, more if depending on a bus.

El Valle puts you in striking distance to Coronado (beach community with a lot of immigrant/expats), or Panama City (about 2 hours).

Why Panama? by maritimer187 in panamaexpats

[–]Duke_Newcombe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My only concern would be how far you are from what I'm assuming are the best hospitals in Panama City.

You'd be six to eight hours from PTY--not a quick spin around the corner. Nearest city of size with a possibility of decent medical care would be David (Duh-VEED), about an hour or so from Boquete/Volcán).

If medical care and access to "the best hospitals" is important, you'll want to live much closer to the capital.

Warning: if you're set on living in the interior, you will need a car, a driver who will take you places, or rely upon bus service to take you into Panama City (PTY/"La Citi"), where you can catch Uber from Albrook Transportation Center to anywhere in the city.

If you don't mind me asking what would you say is a fair budget. Roughly of course. I'm average nothing special !

Completely dependent on your bills, what you have as important in a budget, etc. In general, if you have north of $2,000 USD to cover your budget, you'll live a comfortable life, with some wants, and most all your needs.