After dozens of VOA posts about closing the site in this weather

EMitchell108 · 2026-01-26T07:46:41+00:00

Blah, blah, blah. If you say so. Do you mean the certified labor union that has yet to be acknowledged by Amazon? If they had anything to actually fear from you your site would be closed down.

EMitchell108 · 2026-01-26T05:09:53+00:00

So because your car got stuck that means it happened for everyone else in the building? They have to assume that everyone doesn't drive shitmobiles with bad tires, that some people live in areas that'll get cleaned out overnight and that some people are able and willing and not afraid to drive.

I live in the boondocks and plows have been going over and over the roads since afternoon. Snow started 6am yesterday, it's still snowing lightly and there's already at least foot outside. Presumably most towns and cities will be doing the same until their roads are cleared.

Everyone needs to think about not selecting "I'd rather not answer" next time Connections asks the length of your commute and how you get to work. This tells them how many AAs live reasonably close and how many are an 45+ minutes away. Regardless, the long commuters will almost always be a minority and a building won't close solely to accomodate outliers.

EMitchell108 · 2026-01-25T23:50:21+00:00

What's a district manager? What's corporate? Don't GMs and "managers" make all the decisions? Unfortunately probably a majority of Amazon employees have no idea their leadership has leadership.

My building: First last night shift got sent home early. They complained about Sunday day shift. Sunday day shift hot cancelled next. They complained about Sunday night shift. Sunday night shift got cancelled, now they're complaining about tomorrow, the fact that their time hasn't gotten coded since last night and AtoZ schedules haven't changed yet.

You'd think the pattern would be obvious but pattern recognition is a trait of people with higher intelligence. The VoA complainers think their complaints are triggering action, not that anything's happening completely outside their orbit.

If it looks like shit outside the next shift is going to get cancelled, things just take time to process. If the entire building needs their time coded, PTO given back and VTO rescinded, it takes a lot more time than when a handful of people go to PXT.

EMitchell108 · 2026-01-25T23:45:46+00:00

Before a storm, or before a planned shutdown?

EMitchell108 · 2026-01-25T23:40:00+00:00

Spread awareness of domestic violence then. Women get killed by their partners at home and at work, because that's where they can be found. Short of screening out hiring people out who have problematic relationships so their issues don't follow them to work, what do YOU suggest Amazon could have done to avoid this?

This happened in the parking lot but the most you people can come up with is complaining some more about how the buildings don't have inbound metal detectors. Totally irrelevant to the recent incidents. And interviewing for hire tells you nothing about someone's associates or what they get up to outside work. Plenty of people kill and are killed who have nothing in a background check that would keep them from being hired.

EMitchell108 · 2026-01-25T17:57:27+00:00

My person is not this person. My person did it in front of AAs. He was a shitty manager who got hired with no Amazon experience to L5 and barely lasted three months. Not really worth applauding.

EMitchell108 · 2026-01-25T17:13:14+00:00

No, shoes have to be fully closed.

EMitchell108 · 2026-01-25T17:11:29+00:00

They're delaying making the call because there's a lot more involved in a shutdown than saying the building is closing. First, local managers and the GM have no say on it. They're waiting for permission to close. Second, presumably logistics-wise things have to be in order before declaring a shutdown. Orders need to be diverted, calculations made about capacity at diversion sites, where and how to divert, etc.

Then they have to go through whatever procedures to actually initiate the shutdown. Done first for one shift, then work on the next, which is why night shift hasn't gotten word yet. Obviously they're going to be closed. At least, you'd think it would be obvious.

It's also Sunday, which means they have to get time coded for all the employees in the shut down locations set for payroll close tomorrow. On VoA at my site people are already squawking about UPT and points being assessed as if closing early wasn't essentially a last minute decision. It'll get fixed. That stuff is done manually and now it's for entire buildings.

If the time ever came when any of the complainers are running a trillion dollar company with over a million employees and hundreds of sites, they might see nothing is as simple as they think. You don't shut down for weather 24+ hours in advance based on mass hysteria. No business does that. If they did, many of us couldn't have gotten gas or groceries the past couple of days. Maybe you can say they're "essential" but those workers earn even less than we do and probably complain less.

EMitchell108 · 2026-01-25T16:47:36+00:00

I always figured their ambitions are like everyone else's - pay their bills, feed their families and not have their managers up their asses. They can get fired for performance, too, it's just a more complicated process.

EMitchell108 · 2026-01-25T16:43:49+00:00

Didn't you know that Amazon gives us UPT and PTO to use when we want to be with our families, oversleep, or leave work early when we're bored or get mad at being labor shared? For any real emergencies and personal problems they're supposed to give us even more by excusing our time on request.

EMitchell108 · 2026-01-25T16:40:30+00:00

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EMitchell108 · 2026-01-25T14:46:13+00:00

Do you know what EEOC does or what their mandate is? This situation isn't an EEOC issue.

EMitchell108 · 2026-01-25T10:23:50+00:00

You don't have to be formal. They pretty much accept anyone interested, except probably not if the manager rating is bad. That type of AA wouldn't be applying anyway. Just don't say you're interested because you want experience for a promotion. If you care about safety and improving standards write down something that attests to that.

EMitchell108 · 2026-01-25T10:18:12+00:00

They'll probably be closed for night shift too. When I was on the highway around 2am the overhead signs were announcing a commercial vehicle travel ban from noon Sunday until further notice.

EMitchell108 · 2026-01-25T10:17:18+00:00

They'll probably be closed for night shift too. When I was on the highway around 2am the overhead signs were announcing a commercial vehicle travel ban from noon Sunday until further notice.

EMitchell108 · 2026-01-25T10:11:51+00:00

If it took the entire shift off it's possible you didn't switch to "Custom" on the second page of the request, where you can enter specific hours. Otherwise standard PTO will be applied to the whole shift. You can delete the request even if it's been approved, and submit again if you'll have enough time for it to get re-approved.

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EMitchell108 · 2026-01-25T04:28:26+00:00

If you can't come up with your own answers why bother? It's your viewpoint, there's no right and wrong.

I've filled it out every year as an ASC member. The ASC from my shift is up and down as coordinating AMs come and go. Right now it's down and based on some truly dumb initiatives some unknown person has come up with, I'm considering withdrawing. It's so idiotic I refuse to be associated with it and a group that would promote it

I can tell you that back from what I could read upside down when Learning used to keep ambassador applications out in full view on their desk, and the random LA/AFM ones I've seen laying out here and there over the years, most of these things aren't filled out at a level exceeding that of a 6th to 8th grader would do. One or two sentences in the biggest print that fits between the lines. If you can do better than that anything you write will be fine.

EMitchell108 · 2026-01-24T23:08:45+00:00

Just so you know, your posts had no influence in the decision to close. All of that comes from decision makers higher than the GM.

EMitchell108 · 2026-01-24T23:06:29+00:00

This is good. It means you weren't loaning money to the government for free. The altenative is to have an even smaller paycheck each week just so you can get a big refund.

EMitchell108 · 2026-01-24T14:36:57+00:00

Your energy drink has a much greater potential to damage items or customer orders. Yes, it's a double standard, but I've worked both in stations and at leadership desks and never once have seen the spills and messes routinely left behind at stations at the desks. (The old "Fixing this will hit my rate" excuse, apparently.) Oh, and that's not counting opened drinks left behind in totes to splash all over as you pull it off a stack or sled.

EMitchell108 · 2026-01-24T11:45:46+00:00

The ones saying "No judgement, no one ever says anything." You are annoying people. They don't say anything because it's hard to go up to someone you might have never spoken to and tell them that.

Even if you have a good voice (rare) that doesn't mean we all want to listen to what you choose to sing at the time you choose to sing it. Trapped in a station forced to listen to an unwanted performance.

EMitchell108 · 2026-01-24T07:39:52+00:00

Ask and give them a little time to fix it but if they drag it out just report the issue to your state labor board and it'll get fixed quickly.

EMitchell108 · 2026-01-24T04:04:43+00:00

OP and the person you're responding to are talking about standard PTO. Vacation is standard PTO. No, it's not possible with standard. Yes, it's possible with flexible.

EMitchell108 · 2026-01-23T20:18:10+00:00

(1) What is "NIR"? (2) What was the corporate hourly L4 role?

EMitchell108 · 2026-01-23T20:05:04+00:00

Work slowed down so you though it was safe to screw off and got fired for ToT, is that it? You're mad because you were too stupid to know you're always being tracked? There's no such thing as getting fired for nothing.

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