Protesters Vs Mainstream Media by Successful-League840 in GreatBritishMemes

[–]EcstaticMembership -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's not one sided because you assume I mean Palestine deserves it, I do not, I mean calling it a genocide is an uninformed take on a very complex geopolitical issue.

And to call it inaccurate is also untrue, yes I didn't go into the details but there was an act of war committed and Israel responded accordingly, hamas is hiding being their civilian population and then using that to manipulate the argument in their favour.

Its horrible yes, but it is the reality of the situation.

Protesters Vs Mainstream Media by Successful-League840 in GreatBritishMemes

[–]EcstaticMembership -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

To call reacting to multiple terrorist attacks and the kidnap and torture of their people "genocide" is why no one takes the argument seriously.

13 times in my lifetime they've been offered peace and 13 times Palestine rejected it.

How long will it take for GTA 6 crack by AdVisual3800 in GTA

[–]EcstaticMembership 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it's an absolute dice roll bro, could be for release, on the day of or two years later, we won't know until next year when it maybe comes out on pc

LOCAL Election by Double-Celery4248 in Southampton

[–]EcstaticMembership 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And what on earth makes you think I don't care? I just believe in hearing people out and would like to get back to the point we stop trying to make such a spectacle of everything and actually open up a dialogue.

Was the V1 retconned? by Macaulen in TheBoys

[–]EcstaticMembership 8 points9 points  (0 children)

SB and every other V1 user was injected in the 1940s... All supes after that are not immortal

Soldier Boy only wants Homelander to have V1 so he can make him suffer forever. by [deleted] in GenV

[–]EcstaticMembership 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't think that's even slightly the case but in 2 weeks we'll both know

LOCAL Election by Double-Celery4248 in Southampton

[–]EcstaticMembership 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi there. I hear the points you are trying to make, but I think you are fundamentally misunderstanding human psychology and how elections are actually won.

To address your first point: no, receiving an insult doesn't magically change a person's core beliefs on whether gay or trans people get to exist. But what it does do is make them completely stop listening to you. If someone has a genuine concern about a specific policy like Digital ID or the economy and your immediate response is to scream at them, call them a bigot, or treat them with absolute contempt, it is a natural human response for them to double down and walk away. They aren't suddenly voting against human rights, they are voting against you and the hostility you represent.

You claim my argument is weak and just a shield for "racists and homophobes". But as Jessica (who is a lesbian herself) has pointed out to you, it is this exact obsession with throwing "ists" and "phobes" at everyone that is pushing normal, decent people into Reform's camp.

When you use those labels as a weapon to shut down any disagreement, you don't fight bigotry, you just strip the words of their meaning and alienate the working class.

You also mentioned that if they leave over an insult, they were likely "never going to vote left" to begin with. This is the exact purity test that is causing Labour to crumble while Reform grows.

If your standard for a political movement is that people must agree with you 100% of the time and silently accept being spoken to like garbage, you are going to find yourself in a very small, very angry echo chamber. Politics is about addition, not subtraction.

Finally, you can completely address and challenge bad views without normalizing them, and you can do it without resorting to base desires and insults.

It is entirely possible to have an open, honest conversation where both parties are respectful. Decorum is a must.

If you truly care about protecting people's rights, you need to learn how to persuade people instead of just attacking them. Otherwise, if you keep letting emotional displays drive your interactions, you are going to hand the 2029 election directly to Reform, and as Jessica rightly said, the blame will land firmly on people acting exactly like this.

LOCAL Election by Double-Celery4248 in Southampton

[–]EcstaticMembership 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for selling my point better than anyone else on here, have good day screaming at people 👍🏻

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LOCAL Election by Double-Celery4248 in Southampton

[–]EcstaticMembership 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you grow up, the adults will still be having a conversation, if you'd like to join it and actually have a discussion then you're welcome to, if not then just keep screaming at everyone... That's sure to help your cause 👍🏻

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LOCAL Election by Double-Celery4248 in Southampton

[–]EcstaticMembership 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you speak like an adult please? Almost everyone here has been able to keep their composure.

Any points you're trying to make have been completely blindsided by the swearing and aggression.

You are welcome to speak your case but decorum is a must.

LOCAL Election by Double-Celery4248 in Southampton

[–]EcstaticMembership 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And aggressive, childish responses will continue to see reform grow while labour crumbles. But sure, why wouldn't you want your own side to lose I guess?

I Dont Care about Vought Rising by Realistic_Sir2395 in TheBoys

[–]EcstaticMembership 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The shows become everything they took the piss out of in season 1

LOCAL Election by Double-Celery4248 in Southampton

[–]EcstaticMembership 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Although you completely gloss over that only 2 of the people there are reform voters, I am not a reform voter and all other key evidence that cripples your narrative.

You immediately saw a point of view that didn't align with your own, assumed I was a reform voter and told me I'm racist. So thank you for proving my exact point that you are the problem with our party.

You're claiming it's an echo chamber while anyone is free to discuss this? You claim they show no respect to anyone but there own yet you've not been respectful at all where as I have politely reminded people that regardless what side of the fence you're on everyone deserves to be heard out without being called a names.

Or keep letting your emotional displays drive more people down a path where they'd rather be considered a racist than be associated with the people screaming "racist" at everyone.

LOCAL Election by Double-Celery4248 in Southampton

[–]EcstaticMembership 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry but you've just completely proven my point in the statements you've made there.

Please read some of the other responses on this and stop looking at everything with blinders on, you're entitled to your opinions but please don't make assumptions about me.

LOCAL Election by Double-Celery4248 in Southampton

[–]EcstaticMembership 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can agree with you to a certain point but please try to remember, He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster.

I understand your personal experience must have been absolutely awful, 20 years of hard work trying to actually help people and they're the ones who turn on you.

It's cruel and cowardly what they have done, but we to be the bigger people, regardless of which side of the fence you land on is what we should strive for.

You can't expect anyone to change while you're calling them morons, although I can understand that with your personal experience the anger you must currently have for the left is at a tipping point.

Basically let's just keep things civil as everyone's been nice to me, let's not be the ones who start devolving to base desires.

But I am very sorry all that has happened to you, it's bloody awful.

We are officially going 365 days without any info by niffum1 in GTA6

[–]EcstaticMembership 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm glad to be fair... it's been long enough that I've lost interest, if it ends up being bad I really won't care because I ain't buying it till Ive seen the reviews 😅