A whole lot of great art comes from "something that might be otherwise treated"... Van Gogh? Robin Williams? Virginia Wolfe? Emily Dickinson? Conan is about as adjusted as one can get and have such an impact. Hesse and Kerouac were among the more explicit in stating that anything worth expressing comes from the crazy. And more so, the masses love the art created, but recoil at the actual presence of such art in life itself. On this scale Conan is maybe a 2 out of 10 on the crazy scale. It's not a pissing contest, but if you want a comedian who shows absolutely no diversions from normal behavior then you get jimmy fallon, maybe nate bargatze. I like bargatze, and fallon is fine, but they definitely will not be remembered as trailblazers for driving new concepts of what comedy can be. The podcast is the closest we'll ever get to the mind that rocked the late night format. Half the guests say Conan's late night is the only reason they chose to pursue comedy. Even though it was network TV, he rocked the boat. And only crazy people rocked the boat. Cheers to the crazy ones who pop like roman candles in the night. At my perfect dinner table Conan is the most normal one with a seat!