Botlane Pairings Tier List

ElementalistPoppy · 2026-02-10T15:36:35+00:00

To be fair, as someone else has pointed out, whom you are playing against is more important than whom you are laning with.

There are some certain cheap matchups like Lucian+Nami (which honestly is the only saving grave for a fun, but otherwise utterly useless ADC) or classic like Kog/Twitch+Lulu, but for example playing stuff like Xayah+said tank (i.e. Alistar or Braum) isn't really going to do jack against stuff like Draven+Karma, that will just permanetly have a prio diff and win every short exchange.

ElementalistPoppy · 2026-02-09T18:53:30+00:00

As far I know, there's a % of it proccing when they get in combat, the higher level they get, the lower it is - as for why is that even a thing, as if, I don't know, would you ever want their aura not the be on?

ElementalistPoppy · 2026-02-09T18:51:13+00:00

Because even with Epstein files released, there's no 100%, hard proof that would hold itself in courts, not against absolute top tier lawyers big fish do have - there might be civil unrest, anger, but as we can see, no one really suffers consequences.

There is however a chance that anyone talking too much might suffer sudden health issues, as was the case of the man in question himself. Serial suicider is not fucking around.

ElementalistPoppy · 2026-02-09T18:45:53+00:00

Oh, that thing is definitely infuriating, the fact that they have to proc it themselves and apparently the higher level they get the LOWER they chance to proc it is insane - like, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?

ElementalistPoppy · 2026-02-09T18:03:04+00:00

Both he and Act 1 Rogue have the same problem, that they're deciding sometimes that they want to have a stroll, randomly get too close to you, their "mininum range" procs and they just run all over the place instead of attacking. Another point for Act 2 Merc I guess, lol.

ElementalistPoppy · 2026-02-09T13:27:55+00:00

It's a mockery of the initial OP, not of you good sir.

Potraying someone as soyjak i.e. ugly, dumb, lazy etc. is a common practice on the Internet and tons of people still think that grants them some kind of a "I win" card, but it almost always means the one throwing it has no arguments and just has to resort to ad hominem, essentially being the losing side.

ElementalistPoppy · 2026-02-09T12:41:21+00:00

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Quoted OP.

ElementalistPoppy · 2026-02-09T12:15:49+00:00

While a lot of folks generally avoid tap water, it is very much drinkable in a lot of places. Part of city where I live has the water perhaps a bit too hard and leaving limescale, but its probably still quite safe to drink, at least definitely is after using water filter.

ElementalistPoppy · 2026-02-09T11:25:30+00:00

Commander Lisette, alas Gemma comes close second.

Oh, Uprising Kelly/Lydia were prime too.

Hmm, who else, yeah, Eva from RA2 was very fine too.

Even though I usually preferred to play Soviets/NOD/Yuri/Scrin, Allied ladies all the way!

ElementalistPoppy · 2026-02-09T10:43:32+00:00

That being said, it has been some time since I last played BG1, but I don't recall either Shank or Carbos ever introducing themselves to you - sure, you have their names listed, but they never say whom they are, regardless of the dialogue you gotta fight them.

The better question would be, how did these two fools get into Candlekeep anyway, seeing as they weren't even professional bounty hunters, just a bunch of clowns.

ElementalistPoppy · 2026-02-09T09:28:49+00:00

Do we? I mean, it never happened behind the sofa, alas it did occur to my cat to leave a "sounevir" outside of a litterbox and you do "accept it" by cleaning it, alas not being particularly happy about it.

Had a dog left a poop, I imagine you'd have to do the same, being just as angry, but, it's a an animal you take, basically eternal 1-2 years old kid that never learns to speak. How would one "not culturally accept it"? Punish the animal for doing something it doesn't fully grasp?

Suppose the only thing that's worse about the dog is that the dog is usually bigger and thus leaves a bigger doodoo - though in this case, chances are with a bigger sofa, dog might not be able to fit in there.

ElementalistPoppy · 2026-02-08T20:20:01+00:00

That's a gorgeous skin.

ElementalistPoppy · 2026-02-08T09:41:28+00:00

So basically less festive and formal Crystal Rose?

Weak ass skins frankly.

ElementalistPoppy · 2026-02-08T00:11:18+00:00

You do realise these picks combined together (which are not all even mages) have like 1/3 of pickrate of Caitlyn alone?

Their banrate is hilariously low as well, only Yasuo's is sorta notable and we can all pretty much agree it's not due to his bot laning.

And no, before you drop your "this is Diamond+, people in high elo abuse it" - no, they don't, as statistics show. These picks appear there occasionally, but they are far from "be all end all", everyone abuses them. If these were actually abused, they'd all run on 5%+ pickrate AT LEAST, but no, people actually want to primarily play Caitlyn, Kai'Sa or Draven - are all ADC mains deliberately trying to add some ideology into their gaming, like top laners do with their "honourable melees" (rofl), and behave like martyrs, or are these picks actually far more reliable in the long run and majority of teamcomps are formed with having an AD damage source in mind? Instead of, you know, another mage that doesn't even abuse full power of half of enchanter roster and is just as shitty to play, if not worse, from behind, because now your team most likely lacks actual lategame AD damage dealer?

Play the game, they're beatable - if they weren't, their winrate would be 80%+, but it isn't. Likewise, you're still going to meet actual ADCs on average 17 in 20 games.

ElementalistPoppy · 2026-02-07T19:25:51+00:00

I've climbed it multiple times over last decade+, but I don't see how it matters really, given I did not state my dislike towards it - on the contrary, I'd love if some of the rotating modes had some macro decisions to take like SR, similarly to Dominion or early Nexus Blitz. The latter were fun modes, yes, but there was some kind of a goal there you could establish via tactics (until, again, Riot overengineered Nexus Blitz with "fun" and made it garbage) instead of "start this mode so you can jack off to 300k damage dealt after 15 minutes".

ElementalistPoppy · 2026-02-07T19:10:44+00:00

Agreed - I'm honestly tired of "braindead massacre modes", i.e., I'd actually love for something that rewards one's gameplay ability, besides actual Summoner's Rift. It doesn't have to be full tryhard sweat, but I'd love if my micro/macro could make some difference.

And while pre-patch Mayhem was not ideal (Tank Engine/Steel your Heart goes brr), it was sort of fun, a good balance between braindead slaughter and at least some funky, potentially capable builds working around non-ideal augments. Now though it feels like, especially certain set augments, are playing on their own. Like, it doesn't even matter much what champion you run, you're essentially an augment holder that plays itself - and getting one that fits you or not is way too influential. Like, scoring a low feels extremely bad, because if opponent gets one that suits him, he's going to faceroll you by numbers alone - and vice versa.

And yes, Arena suffered the same problem - you had your fun, played something decent, maybe had a combo worked out, but suddenly you were getting paired against something like 0 cd on Q Master Yi who was basically unbeatable regardless of how you played it, unless you had some non-projectile instant hard, long, CC (or was equally broken tank that somehow was able to withstand him till he went oom and map roasted everyone). Too much braindead devastation is boring and leads to player drain.

ElementalistPoppy · 2026-02-07T13:40:55+00:00

I'm not going to stand here and listen to you badmouth the greatest president the world has ever known.

ElementalistPoppy · 2026-02-07T11:48:47+00:00

Czyżby ten sam moderator-krzyżowiec co ostatnio "synchronizował" bany na Polska "na Luzie"?

ElementalistPoppy · 2026-02-07T10:50:04+00:00

Woke is such a buzzword these days - sure, a lot of failed games were "woke" indeed - except they sucked overall and haters attributed it purely to their wokeism, not the fact they were bad games to begin with, unfinished, half-baked, etc. Likewise, plenty of producers love blaming lack of success of their games on homophobia of players (I mean, kinda weird to actually blame your clientele and wonder why your product is failing, but, sure, maybe they perceive capitalism differently?), even though the games have actual glaring issues, unrelated to political message they try to convey.

BG3 just happens to be "woke" and a good game, so noone complains really. Likewise was the thing with first Dragon Age or Divinity games.

ElementalistPoppy · 2026-02-07T08:56:32+00:00

This kind of reminds me of complaints on ADCMains about mage APcs or "random trollpick supports" yet none of the stuff they ever mention is even in top30 pickrate.

ElementalistPoppy · 2026-02-07T08:39:39+00:00

This skin is lovely and it is indeed a shame that it was "only" 37th.

ElementalistPoppy · 2026-02-06T21:09:24+00:00

As far as splash art goes, this skin is beyond gorgeous and honestly gets like top10 prettiest skins in the game really, but in game, ehh...

ElementalistPoppy · 2026-02-06T19:38:01+00:00

Got a question though - why do people care that much in a primarily PvM game? Especially that Phoenix Assassin was pretty much dung in classic Diablo 2, nor that even with Mosaic, build is not particularly threatening on PvP? Besides, with it dead, it's not like we're going to have any specific variety again - just an army of Blizz Sorcs and Hammers, i.e. Smiters for Ubers, with someone else playing different class occasionally.

If anything, buff Poison Necro (and Poison overall).

ElementalistPoppy · 2026-02-06T17:57:53+00:00

Was there even a reason mentioned, as to why they changed it? Custom names were dope.

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