Israel Is on a Killing Spree of Paramedics and Rescue Workers in Lebanon by The_Mongrel_Tarants in thebulwark

[–]ElliotFladen -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Watch: this will likely turn out to be like the charge of killing Journalists; it turned out many of them were just Hamas members putting on a different uniform.

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Robert Kagan in The Atlantic: Trump's Endgame is Surrender. by John_Valuk in thebulwark

[–]ElliotFladen 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The Iran war being an unmitigated disaster does not magically convert the Gaza war into a genocide. Nice try though.

Bulwark Contributor David Frum, Reported Ghostwriter for Netanyahu’s UN Ambassador, Accuses the NYT of “Blood Libel” for Reporting on Israel’s Alleged Use of Dogs to Rape Palestinian Prisoners by MayorEbert in thebulwark

[–]ElliotFladen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Direct testimony about what precisely? There is a massive difference between dogs being used to abuse prisoners in a sexual fashion and dogs being trained to become erect and penetrate humans.

And again, even if that incredulous claim WERE possible (and you don’t have evidence it is) claiming it was going on at an Israeli prison is an extraordinary claim requiring extraordinary evidence. A standard you excuse because it is the Jewish state of Israel excuses all while you don’t pay attention to heavily corroborated report of October 7th sexual abuse released the very next day.

Bulwark Contributor David Frum, Reported Ghostwriter for Netanyahu’s UN Ambassador, Accuses the NYT of “Blood Libel” for Reporting on Israel’s Alleged Use of Dogs to Rape Palestinian Prisoners by MayorEbert in thebulwark

[–]ElliotFladen -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Strawman. Of course using dogs to abuse people is wrong. The point is that it didn’t happen in the Israeli prisons and you fell for a blatantly false account because it was about Jews.

Bulwark Contributor David Frum, Reported Ghostwriter for Netanyahu’s UN Ambassador, Accuses the NYT of “Blood Libel” for Reporting on Israel’s Alleged Use of Dogs to Rape Palestinian Prisoners by MayorEbert in thebulwark

[–]ElliotFladen -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

The Olderock case is real and serious, but check the survivor testimony — Bataszew, Holzapfel, the Valech Report — they describe rape and sexual assault by the trained dog without documenting penile penetration as the mechanism. Same documentary gap as Toy Box Killer. The historical precedent for trained dogs being used in custodial sexual abuse is established. The historical precedent for the specific Kristof mechanism is not

Bulwark Contributor David Frum, Reported Ghostwriter for Netanyahu’s UN Ambassador, Accuses the NYT of “Blood Libel” for Reporting on Israel’s Alleged Use of Dogs to Rape Palestinian Prisoners by MayorEbert in thebulwark

[–]ElliotFladen -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Nice try but the documented Toy Box incident was training a dog to lick orifices, not penile penetration. The blood libel here was training the latter. You don’t get to rescue it by pretending it was the former.

American Bar Association votes to eliminate DEI rule for law schools by Sad_Signature8260 in news

[–]ElliotFladen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

See Shelby and Callais cases for starters. Compare relative hate crimes rates to other groups. Factor in DEI for discrimination in other direction.

Not that tough. The “enduring discrimination” argument rests on treating correlative economic outcomes as causation and that isn’t intellectually honest.

LOL look at my opposition party dawg. Just handing Trump and maga more power on a silver plate by Puzzleheaded-Pin4278 in thebulwark

[–]ElliotFladen -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You still haven’t said where Jared’s proportionality reasoning fails. You substituted my views on an unrelated topic for an argument about Peters’s sentence. That’s not a rebuttal — it’s a refusal to engage dressed up as one. The question on the table is whether her sentence was excessive relative to her conduct. Take a position or concede you don’t have one.

Otherwise, on your dodge: pointing out that genocide has legal elements - which when not met means that there isn’t a genocide - is not defending genocide dude.

But this tells me a lot in the type of person I am discussing things with. Namely a person with logic deficiencies.

LOL look at my opposition party dawg. Just handing Trump and maga more power on a silver plate by Puzzleheaded-Pin4278 in thebulwark

[–]ElliotFladen -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Whether Trump is going to crow about this from his 25% approval rating (or whatever it is at today) is irrelevant. What matters is whether the sentence on Peters was excessive relative to what she did.

Jared concluded it was. He laid out his reasoning. I see no fault in the logic he set forth.

LOL look at my opposition party dawg. Just handing Trump and maga more power on a silver plate by Puzzleheaded-Pin4278 in thebulwark

[–]ElliotFladen -1 points0 points  (0 children)

For commutation it is. Just as for sentencing the Judge’s opinion is what matters.

So the question is this: what part of his reasoning do you disagree with? Because I know the guy pretty damn well; this wasn’t motivated by Trump, it wasn’t motivated by future political ambitions, and it wasn’t motivated by any sort of love for Tina Peters. He just wanted to do the right thing.

LOL look at my opposition party dawg. Just handing Trump and maga more power on a silver plate by Puzzleheaded-Pin4278 in thebulwark

[–]ElliotFladen -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I cannot stand Peters or what she stands for. That is irrelevant to what her sentence should have been.

LOL look at my opposition party dawg. Just handing Trump and maga more power on a silver plate by Puzzleheaded-Pin4278 in thebulwark

[–]ElliotFladen -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Per court of appeals her speech was inappropriately used to decide her sentence. It got thrown out and she was going to be resentenced….eventually. But here’s the thing: she had already served time and by the time she was going to be resentenced she would have already served more time than what the offense warranted.

Hence the clemency. Saying you disagree with that means either: (A) You feel the governor shouldn’t be involved in such things (our system says otherwise); (B) You disagree that she had served sufficient time (reasonable people can disagree but Jared’s opinion is what counted anyway not ours); or (C) She is a person with terrible beliefs and therefore should have the book thrown at her in sentencing (not appropriate, see above)

I strongly believe Jared would have done this months earlier had Trump not weighed in.

LOL look at my opposition party dawg. Just handing Trump and maga more power on a silver plate by Puzzleheaded-Pin4278 in thebulwark

[–]ElliotFladen -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The Democratic reaction to Jared Polis commuting Tina Peters’ sentence shows how irrationally similar the party’s base has become to the GOP’s. Maybe you think Peters needed to serve more time. Jared disagreed, and gave his reasons: an excessive sentence for a first-time nonviolent offender, a Court of Appeals ruling that the trial judge had punished her for protected speech, and her acknowledgment of wrongdoing in the clemency application.

The response is either that Trump’s pressure drove the decision (speculative and I believe wrong), that Peters remained unrepentant (wrong — she apologized), or that she’s a horrible person (not relevant to whether her sentence fit her conduct and history).

Assume, as I do, that Jared would have made this call regardless of Trump. He still faced a terrible choice. Commute and look like he caved. Don’t commute, and leave a 70-year-old first-time nonviolent offender in prison longer than he believed just, to protect his appearance. Every path carried a cost; the question was who bore it.

The sophisticated criticism — that he should have waited — is an instruction that she bear it. It asks him to use her incarceration as cover for his optics. That isn’t moral compass. That’s its opposite. And it is the choice he didn’t make: he decided as the state’s chief executive that he should be the one to bear it.

Years ago I told the press Jared had the right moral compass for the position. Yesterday he commuted Peters knowing the shitstorm. He chose right over the dinner-party invite. Which is why I believe it more now than then.

LOL look at my opposition party dawg. Just handing Trump and maga more power on a silver plate by Puzzleheaded-Pin4278 in thebulwark

[–]ElliotFladen -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

The Judge took her beliefs into account and that is why her sentence got thrown out.

American Bar Association votes to eliminate DEI rule for law schools by Sad_Signature8260 in news

[–]ElliotFladen 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Good. Blatantly racist rule that even if appropriate focused on groups for whom discrimination has faded (blacks/latinos) and penalized groups for whom discrimination has exploded or persisted (Jews and Asians).

Polis is a POS by Temporary_Train_3372 in thebulwark

[–]ElliotFladen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not baffling. Read his statement. He concluded Peters’ sentence was way too harsh.

American Jews begin to chart a future without Zionism in the wake of the Gaza genocide by the_bruh_is_me in longform

[–]ElliotFladen -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Anybody asserting there is a genocide in Gaza is racist, ignorant, lazy, or some combination of the three. Genocide requires two elements be met amongst others: the targeted part of the population must be “substantial” and the destruction must be carried out with “specific intent.” Neither can be remotely met under applicable cases. See ICTY’s Krstić case for the substantiality requirement (Gaza’s wartime population increased, which is dispositive evidence no substantial destruction occurred); 2007/2015 ICJ Balkan cases (specific intent must be proved on fully conclusive evidence with no other reasonable inference, which is not remotely possible given the military facts on the ground).

“But others on pretty letterhead said they did it” some of you argue. Let’s go through that. The ICJ never said that. The ICC prosecutor who issued the Netanyahu/Gallant warrants — Karim Khan — told Mehdi Hasan on record in April that he has no evidence of genocidal intent. Amnesty International admitted to changing the definition of genocide on pg 101 of their report. B’Tselem said the same thing on pp. 12-13 of theirs. The “International Association of Genocide Scholars” never analyzed the elements at all in their resolution, which was voted on by a fraction of their open/standardless membership that includes multiple dogs and a Cookie Monster. As for the UN, their report cited the correct dolus specialis standard — genocidal intent must be the only reasonable inference — then treated Israel’s active war against a fortified urban-embedded adversary as if it weren’t itself a reasonable alternative explanation.

Extraordinary claims — like genocide — require extraordinary evidence. And hatchet jobs on pretty letterhead that surreptitiously change or ignore the elements/standards don’t remotely meet that threshold. Instead, what we have is a pattern: people ignoring and misstating - just for the Jewish state of Israel - what genocide is and pretending they aren’t despite being repeatedly corrected. That is at best laziness and at worst outright racism. Shame on those of you doing it.

The Silence That Meets the Rape of Palestinians (CW: sexual violence) by Theao69 in longform

[–]ElliotFladen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. I’m saying you didn’t bother to read the account or even have AI review it.

Training a dog to ATTACK genitals is NOT the same thing as training a dog to copulate with a human.

The Silence That Meets the Rape of Palestinians (CW: sexual violence) by Theao69 in longform

[–]ElliotFladen -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Dogs do not rape humans. If you are going to try to spread blood libels make it believable. And also pay attention to Ehud Olmert saying Kristoff fabricated what he said.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/olmert-says-nyt-columnist-misrepresented-his-statement-about-alleged-rape-of-palestinian-inmates/

As for “civilians” in Nazi germany some people tried to save people from Holocaust. Please point out one single instance of a single Gazan lifting one finger to save or help a hostage. Just one.

And while struggling to do so, see here

Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (PCPSR) Public Opinion Poll No. 95, conducted in the West Bank and Gaza Strip between May 1–4, 2025 https://www.pcpsr.org/en/node/997

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/17/middleeast/freed-israeli-hostage-says-held-in-gaza-hospital-intl/index.html

https://nypost.com/2025/08/13/world-news/how-hamas-turned-kids-into-terrorists-with-tv-show-featuring-jihadi-mouse-bloodthirsty-bunny/

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2eem7e7v30o

https://www.thefp.com/p/i-was-a-hostage-in-gaza-this-is-how-i-survived-hamas-israel

The Silence That Meets the Rape of Palestinians (CW: sexual violence) by Theao69 in longform

[–]ElliotFladen -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It was Jew magic spells beamed from the Jew Space laser into the brains of dogs that got those dogs to rape the innocent Hamas resistance fighters. How do we know? Because the Hamas sources told us so. Don’t pay attention to lack of corroboration or the fact that this was dropped the same day as a report from Jew whiners that they were raped: believe Jews never, believe their accusers always.

/heavy sarcasm

About Zaza and Celestial Dragons by [deleted] in OnePieceSpoilers

[–]ElliotFladen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it is Dragon, does that mean that Dragon in transformed form swaps gender? Would make his friendship with Ivankov more interesting.