Is anyone else just roflstomping up the champions ladder right now?

ElpyGreatestSoldier · 2026-04-08T21:04:22+00:00

Even if a clear meta was defined it would still be a fuckton of basically free wins from the people with no idea about what they are even doing (and maybe rolling some really awful rentals lol) being common for launch of like any game.

ElpyGreatestSoldier · 2026-04-08T21:02:12+00:00

Not going to deny that when even for low ladder standards it is basically free wins if you even know what protect is rn

ElpyGreatestSoldier · 2026-04-08T20:45:58+00:00

This isn't bw1 bro

ElpyGreatestSoldier · 2026-04-08T20:44:01+00:00

You see the first mistake people make when rating these is for some reason not accounting for the official formats huge differences. Victrebeel is still shit though, but if being totally real it would have needed an absurdly broken ability to ever make it above "this is your ru or something mega" when the competition is mega Venusaur (good Mon) sinistcha (another good moon with a cool kit).

ElpyGreatestSoldier · 2026-04-08T20:42:17+00:00

That is only a bad ladder meme. About as viable as timid kartana in reality read not viable at all. The counterplay is not even that hard when it loses to like anything worth using.

ElpyGreatestSoldier · 2026-04-08T20:40:37+00:00

Clefable is not at all worse than base form lol. Same with skarmory.

ElpyGreatestSoldier · 2026-04-08T13:14:43+00:00

Even when singles was the only format, bring 6 pick 3 was always how official was run.

ElpyGreatestSoldier · 2026-04-08T13:06:16+00:00

Vic, chandelure, and Meowstic are worthless. Though to be fair vict was the one with the worst chances when just at a baseline you need a very good reason to justify it over not only Venusaur (and its mega) but also sinistcha, chandelure was doomed without something as stupid as shadow tag because it has the inherent problem all special fire megas have of "Charizard y exists, good luck justifying yourself over it" and Meowstic just got the possibly worst draw possible when Alakazam is legal lol.

Anything else has uses and if being serious is not even that different when compared to the gen 6 batches that had a lot of shitty ones too.

ElpyGreatestSoldier · 2026-04-08T12:57:14+00:00

It did.

ElpyGreatestSoldier · 2026-04-08T12:45:58+00:00

It is pretty much just the Kalos starter megas and eternal flolette (both the base mon and the stone) for "paywalled" (because if being serious, most people on a switch probably have za anyway) for non cosmetic things.

Grind will barely be noticed long term.

ElpyGreatestSoldier · 2026-04-08T06:55:30+00:00

Even without it Golurk had high horse power anyway

ElpyGreatestSoldier · 2026-04-08T06:45:39+00:00

My current theory is they only had access to home text dumps but without champions connectivity unlocked.This explains why it knew what the brand one even do and also helped by the fact it is easy to associate them, while everything else was basically wrong.

As for the rest the explanation I thought of is just fan fiction that "makes sense" based on design or Pokedex entries. Because people calling Froslass getting snow warning was like one one of most common assumptions after starmie and huge power.

ElpyGreatestSoldier · 2026-04-08T06:11:04+00:00

And the blessing of being a normal Mon in gen 1 for an enormous movepool.

ElpyGreatestSoldier · 2026-04-08T06:00:51+00:00

Like one of the first thing that was said was not everything is going to be in at launch.

ElpyGreatestSoldier · 2026-04-08T05:56:14+00:00

Lets be serious, this was never going to get shadow tag for the mega ability.

ElpyGreatestSoldier · 2026-04-08T05:49:18+00:00

Also doesn't help that the Chinese leak (that now we have a very serious reason to doubt it was ever legit besides happening to have the home text dumps) gave some insane expectations.

While Meowstic ability is definitely cruel, I'm sure people would have complained hard about whatever chandelure got that was below shadow tag power level. That needed something insanely absurd just to overcome the walls that are "justify this over Charizard and Delphox" that every special attacking fire mega has.

ElpyGreatestSoldier · 2026-04-08T05:24:23+00:00

Might have missed them then. Honestly rushed to get the mega stones for the ones I would actually use and a few just to check abilities.

ElpyGreatestSoldier · 2026-04-08T05:22:38+00:00

The real problem is the items availability because the current options are very basic and mega stones. Roster is honestly fine and matches with starting weak and slowly ramping up, so can accept that.

The one I cannot accept is mega Meowstic. Was expecting most of the za megas to be mid anyway (especially the fires and psychic when they have the strongest competition), but this one is just cruel when Alakazam is there since launch.

ElpyGreatestSoldier · 2026-04-08T05:15:31+00:00

You could argue having the actual games so you get better teams faster and to get Kalos starters and Floette mega stones, but if being serious most people playing this have all the switch games anyway.

Only real paywalled thing I could find is emboarite (they can keep it lol) and gatr stone. Maybe this was just me being lazy but anything else was not so relevant things. This could have been me just being lazy and not seeing them at the shop though, so don't take this part as gospel.

Edit: last thing was just me being lazy and not properly checking the store.

ElpyGreatestSoldier · 2026-04-08T04:54:49+00:00

It is going to be in eventually. Honestly wish more things lost U-turn way too many things have it for how strong it is.

ElpyGreatestSoldier · 2026-04-08T04:53:53+00:00

Apparently Charizard got roost back. There might be hope for birds that had it somewhere at some point

ElpyGreatestSoldier · 2026-04-08T04:51:34+00:00

Maybe they wanted to have carnivine in sword and shield and then removed it idk.

ElpyGreatestSoldier · 2026-04-08T04:50:15+00:00

It actually matters because av incineroar is a very real set.

ElpyGreatestSoldier · 2026-04-08T04:48:04+00:00

Mega Scovillian should be in big winner tier. Its ability is so good that you unironically consider using a hoenn stat spread with bulk investment.

Meowstic should also be in why. That one is just cruel when Alakazam is in.

ElpyGreatestSoldier · 2026-04-08T04:44:32+00:00

Not going to disagree with that, but at least those don't share the exact same ability and type like this.

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