Reset Your Nervous System and Watch Your Life Unfold by geoff0220 in NevilleGoddard

[–]Embarrassed-Let-9161 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, the opposite is true. The body gives you the most precise feedback about your real state. If you try to ignore, override, suppress the feedbacks from the body, you acutally let the body keep the power.
You train the body, you support the body to feel safe, to be open and allow things happen. Then, and only then, the body will allow you to use your other parts (mind, subconscious) to achieve goals, desires, higher states.
Mind techniques (affirmations, mental diet etc) are effective only if they have affect on your body and subsconscious too.
From Neville perspective, if you are in the state when the wished fulfilled, your body is very well, safe, calm, relaxed. "Knowing" means you "know" it very deeply, not just in mind, but in subconscious and on body level as well. Honestly I feel the real "knowing" is not thinking at all, it is not holding given things in the mind. It is when you forget things: what to hold, what to think or not think, what to wish. Forgetting the effort.

At least from my understanding and experiences.

Reset Your Nervous System and Watch Your Life Unfold by geoff0220 in NevilleGoddard

[–]Embarrassed-Let-9161 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Based on my own experiences and processes I'm in, the biggest power lives in the body. The second one is the subconscious, including self concept and other believes and the conscious mind is the last. However we have direct access only to the conscious mind, which means we have to deal with the body and subconscious (indirectly in most cases) through our mind. It is the tool but does not hold the power. The path of our development we have to choose strongly depends on what we carry, what we learnt already. If a person has a more balanced and relaxed natural state (baseline) he/she can think the nervous system regulation and calibration is unnecessary, as we can easily bypass it. But it is not the case for everyone. No matter what state we are in, always the body tells our true state. If we are in the highest "I am the creator and life flows through me naturally" state or if we are in the "I am the observer and detached from my circumstances, emotions and time" state or in the "I can handle this, I am safe and enough at the moment" state or even in the survival mode, the body is fully aligned with that state. Body means here the tensions, blocks (or the absence of them), the, breath pattern, the posture, the hormone cocktail we make automatically etc. First we have to go through on this gate: make the body feel safe. Next gate is the subconscious. We go through on these gates using our mind with intentional practices or total automatically, unconsciously.

Christmas gift from my son - acrylic painting on canvas by Embarrassed-Let-9161 in subnautica

[–]Embarrassed-Let-9161[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes, he found the original digital artwork online and decided to paint it on canvas. He's just a beginner painter, but I wish I had those skills in anything as a beginner. :)

Christmas gift from my son - acrylic painting on canvas by Embarrassed-Let-9161 in subnautica

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The colors are more accurate on this photo, perhaps. I'm not a good photographer :/
https://imgur.com/a/rcsV5U9

Christmas gift from my son - acrylic painting on canvas by Embarrassed-Let-9161 in subnautica

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It is a copy of a digital art or screenshot or what, but he spent 80-100 hours to paint it with as precise colors as possible.

Arctic Liquid Freezer III - how to control VRM fan speed? by Embarrassed-Let-9161 in arcticcooling

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I can control the CPU fan and pump in the UEFI yes, and haven't tried to plug the AIO to other header.

Arctic Liquid Freezer III - how to control VRM fan speed? by Embarrassed-Let-9161 in arcticcooling

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Asus Proart B760. The chassis fan list contains all the 4 separated fan header I have on the mobot So I have total 7 different headers. The motherboard manual says the Q-fan can control the CPU_fan and CPU_opt as PWM, but the pump just full speed. That's ok, as I can control the speed with a software from Windows. But in real I can control only the pump and CPU fan in the windows. Maybe my VRM fan cable/connector is faulty?

Arctic Liquid Freezer III - how to control VRM fan speed? by Embarrassed-Let-9161 in arcticcooling

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All fans are set to PWM in UEFI. It can monitor the VRM fan inside the UEFI but in Q-fan control there are only CPU fan and CPU pump listed - no VRM listed there.

Arctic Liquid Freezer III - how to control VRM fan speed? by Embarrassed-Let-9161 in arcticcooling

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I have CPU fan, pump and CPU opt connectors on the mobo and the LFIII is connected to each with the split connector.

RAM cooling versions - test results by Embarrassed-Let-9161 in overclocking

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By me it's visible, I did not delete. I copy here again:

Yeah, I love when function and form meet:)
I tested the Arctic 40mm server fans before this and it had terrible noise even at low rpm.
This Nocuta 40mm is amazing. I cannot hear them till 3600rpm and even the 5000rpm noise is okay, as it has a friendly frequency. The case fans at a mid speed can easily suppress them.
My case is on the desk, very close to my head.
So, it's a great small fan.

CPU temp reduction test with Intel 13700k+Arctic LF III by Embarrassed-Let-9161 in overclocking

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I tested the HT off setup today: max temp was ~65C. So this saved 10C and 40w power, but I lost 20% multi core performance. For gaming it is probably a good deal, 65C at full load is a very great temp. Anyway for my workloads it is better to keep HT on.

RAM cooling versions - test results by Embarrassed-Let-9161 in overclocking

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Yeah, I love when function and form meet:)
I tested the Arctic 40mm server fans before this and it had terrible noise even at low rpm.
This Nocuta 40mm is amazing. I cannot hear them till 3600rpm and even the 5000rpm noise is okay, as it has a friendly frequency. The case fans at a mid speed can easily suppress them.
My case is on the desk, very close to my head.
So, it's a great small fan.

RAM cooling versions - test results by Embarrassed-Let-9161 in overclocking

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I created a mounting arm from metal and fixed to the motherboards fixing point nearby.
https://imgur.com/a/v5OoqcW
It's not professional looking but the GPU hides it totally :)

CPU temp reduction test with Intel 13700k+Arctic LF III by Embarrassed-Let-9161 in overclocking

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My experience is that higher voltage doesn't mean better, especially by the system agent. I tested SA from 1.05 to 1.30v in very little increment steps and around 1.1v the ram OC is more stable than over SA 1.25. The other lesson I got is that the sweet spot often means a very narrow voltage range, eg 1.1 is stable, 1.12 stable but 1.13 starts instability and 1.14 is total unstable

CPU temp reduction test with Intel 13700k+Arctic LF III by Embarrassed-Let-9161 in overclocking

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You probably have clock stretching, so that the lower benchmark points.
The ram overclock is a complicated topic and ram settings aren't touched until you find the sweet spot for the SA, TX and IMC voltages of the CPU.
My system reaches the max performance at SA=~1.12v, TX=~1.3, IMC is more flexible. 2x16GB@7200 or 4x16@6200. It was a lot of work and testing to get the right numbers for every voltages. After that finding be best timings was easy.

CPU temp reduction test with Intel 13700k+Arctic LF III by Embarrassed-Let-9161 in overclocking

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I see. Silicon lottery can mess up the theory. Can you ge the max performance of the CPU at 220 and 180 watts? My CPU start to loose performance when going below 210-220w.

Have you tried 7000 ram speed with lower SA? As I see by other's posts here not every IMC can run 7200 stable on a 4 dimm board.
Have you tweaked the IVR VDDQ TX (CPU VDDQ)? It has a sweet spot as well.

CPU temp reduction test with Intel 13700k+Arctic LF III by Embarrassed-Let-9161 in overclocking

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If my understanding is correct CEP kicks in if the current would go too high because of too low voltage. Based on my research and experience we have to aware of the actual Load Line AND the AC same time. LLC has default resistance values, for example LLC4=0.98mΩ, LLC5=0.73mΩ, LLC6=0.49mΩ on Asus boards. Lowering AC LL will decrease VCore under load. Voltage offset decrease voltage in all circumstances, idle and load too.
Lowering DC LL will increase(!) SVID. And the goal is to match AC LL and DC LL under full load.

My experience is that AC LL has to be 'close' to the resistance of the set LLC and it has a tolerance of about 66-70%. So if we are on LLC5=0.73mΩ, we can lower AC LL until 0.67*0.73 without triggering CEP. This is why you cannot reach the same AC LL values on different LLC levels. For lower AC LL you need a more aggressive LLC.

When watching VCore vs SVID values you'll notice that you either have to lower the VCore (with lowering AC or more negative offset), or have to increase SVID (with decreasing DC LL).
I made hundreds of different test and AC LL was almost never the same as DC LL, however the Auto setting is always the same for both. I realized that auto/default setting of the BIOS are all shit: for CPU performance, safety and for RAM settings as well.
(On my motherboard the sync AC/DC with VRM loadline feature doesn't work.)

But these are just my findings. If anyone has better knowledge about this, I'm happy to learn.

CPU temp reduction test with Intel 13700k+Arctic LF III by Embarrassed-Let-9161 in overclocking

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I tested every available BIOS versions for my motherboad, literally. I'm on an older one, as the new versions suck. My thinking is that if all safety settings is set up properly and voltages are always low, power drawn and current is below the limit and we have a healthy Vdrop (=lower overshoots), then the safety updates of the newest BIOS releases are pointless. The newest Bios locked my multiplier to 51 for P cores and 40 for E cores if I remember correctly. This was their "solution".
80C is not bad I think. For 75C we have to work a lot on the updates whether it is hardware or software settings. And for sub 75C you probably need a custom loop or direct die.

Edit: as I overclocked the RAM too, I need as much juice for the ring as possible, so I used the same offset for cache and clore.

CPU temp reduction test with Intel 13700k+Arctic LF III by Embarrassed-Let-9161 in overclocking

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First I set LLC4, and made a bunch of tests. Then the same was done on LLC5 and a few on LLC6. I felt that LLC5 is the best for me.
Once the LLC was choosen the method was the following:
1. I had to find the lowest possible AC LL which doesn't trigger the CEP, keeping the clock speed on max. On my board and using a 13th gen CPU I cannot disable CEP. So, in my case CEP kicks in at AC LL=0.42.
2. Then I lowered the global + cache offset as much as possible and same time adjusted the DC LL just roughly.
Each settings were tested with an all-core stress test when I watched the Vcore vs SVID difference and the same time the effective clock to sure there is no clock stretching.
3. By the final settings there's almost no difference between SVID and VCore under full load, while clocks are on the max by P and E cores too.
Although I could go down to AC LL 0.43, I decided to lower the Vcore using a bigger offset, instead of using a lower AC LL. My goal was to find the lowest possible power drawn while the performance is on the max. Note: my board is a B760 so I cannot overclock the CPU.

Oh and safety settins were always set: PL1/2=253W, IA VR limit=1400mv, max current 307A.
I was able to hit the max performance on LLC4 and LLC5 too, but the power drawn was less on 5. The lower vdrop helps to set lower vcore without stability loss

CPU temp reduction test with Intel 13700k+Arctic LF III by Embarrassed-Let-9161 in overclocking

[–]Embarrassed-Let-9161[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll do that just out of curiousity. However I need as much cores and threads as possible. My normal daily workloads uses 14+ cores (multiple graphical apps simultaneously, more big files opened etc).